What dub have you been listening to recenty?

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It's okay, mostly horn-heavy instrumentals rather than dub.

That reminds me, can anyone think of records with a lot of dubbed-out trombone? I heard a track on the radio that was great, no idea who it was.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a memory of hearing a dub album in the mid 80s round a friend's house which seemed to be based around 'The Good, Bad, and the Ugly' with dubbed-out mariachi style effects.

I've never been able to track down what it was.

― Bob Six (Bob Six), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"That reminds me, can anyone think of records with a lot of dubbed-out trombone?"

Rico Rodriguez Man From Waireka Dub!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I think there's also Sly & Robbie's 'Burial Dub' on that 'Dub Chill Out' CD mentioned above.

― Bob Six (Bob Six), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

why so imported :(

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Because Island is being really sluggish about reissueing this stuff. :(

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Starting this thread has proved quite expensive: I've so far ordered the Leggo, Joe Gibbs and Wareika Dub CDs (quite cheap of Amazon UK 'new and used')

Still not as bad as when I read the girl groups thread on orginal ILM.

― Bob Six (Bob Six), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

this is fuckin good:

http://www.rootz.net/gussiecd01.jpg

i only have a bad rip of it where the tracks overlap and cut out in the middle of each song

― amon (amon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

From that blog, this album cover is very WTF

Haha, the expression on her face.

― Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

which studio one comps are must-haves? gonna try to make it to a tower this weekend

― amon (amon), Friday, 8 December 2006 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Rockers

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha all of them! Best of Studio One and Full Up: More Best of Studio One on Heartbeat are absolute must haves esp. since they each have 6 bonus tracks and pristine sound. Studio One Rockers, Studio One Roots and Studio One Scorchers 1 & 2 on Soul Jazz are all pretty essentially as well. Sometimes the Soul Jazz and Heartbeat stuff repeats a track, but it's pretty rare as there is so much Coxsone stuff to choose from.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

DO NOT GET "Studio One Soul"! I really liked the "Women", "Roots" and "Lovers".

― Daniel Reifferscheid (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh that's mean. I think both the Studio One Soul comps are great, easily as good as that Blood & Fire Darker Than Blue.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I REALLY like Express Yourself off studio one soul. It manages to sound like early happy mondays.

The whole comp gets a bit insipid, though.

― Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Also off-topic: what was the Hustle! Reggae Disco one like?

― Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

AMAZING!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW this looks fucking amazing.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"limited to 1000 copies" - wtf reissues shouldn't be limited, that's oxymoronic

couple more recs for the original post:

http://www.mikeydread.com/myshop/Images/african_anthen_deluxe.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/79/Scientist-RidsTheWorld.jpg/200px-Scientist-RidsTheWorld.jpg

― amon (amon), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf reissues shouldn't be limited, that's oxymoronic

If you ever want to be really angry, google "Shadoks Music."

― ian (orion), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, none of the "Studio One Soul" tracks seemed to really add much to the originals (well, besides the obvious fact that they're reggaefied covers), the whole thing felt very bland. "Hustle!" is totally great tho, agreed.

― Daniel Reifferscheid (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 9 December 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, this Joe Gibbs record is really great.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw a really badly silkscreened horace andy shirt the other day that i'm pretty sad i didn't buy now

― strongo (temp.) (sandboxhulkington), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Al Green's "Mend A Broken Heart," then the Bee Gees' version, which curdled my coffee instantly.

― Jubalique die Zitronen (juicefriend), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

expost - where?

― amon (amon), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ossie All Stars Leggo Dub was an excellent recommendation - really like it.

Did they share the same sound effects with Joe Gibb's African Dub team? The gong, flowing water, doorbell and telephone sound very similar.

― Bob Six (Bob Six), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 08:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone got Studio One Groups?

I'd say the two essential SJ Studio One comps are Rockers and Dub. Dub is really special - I don't know who the hell actually mixed these, whether it was Sylvan Morris or Coxsone himself, but some of that material is amazing. The dub of Delroy Wilson's orginal Run Run (Running Dub) is a cracker, especially when the vocal comes back in at the end.

Oh - and Studio One Funk is great too.

I've also been listening to the Scientist 'Vampires' set recently - possibly my favourite Dub album, certainly in my top 3. For me, it's quality of the vocal and the way that he leaves in just enough of it to set an atmosphere that makes Scientist so special. That and the sheer depth of the mixes.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the Scientist 'Vampires' and 'World Cup' albums.

Some of his other records I've found a bit anaemic, in that he has a good concept - such as space invaders - but doesn't play around enough with those sounds.

― Bob Six (Bob Six), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Haha all of them! Best of Studio One and Full Up: More Best of Studio One on Heartbeat are absolute must haves esp. since they each have 6 bonus tracks and pristine sound. Studio One Rockers, Studio One Roots and Studio One Scorchers 1 & 2 on Soul Jazz are all pretty essentially as well. Sometimes the Soul Jazz and Heartbeat stuff repeats a track, but it's pretty rare as there is so much Coxsone stuff to choose from.

-- Alex in SF (clobberthesauru...), December 8th, 2006 3:44 PM. (Alex in SF)

damn you werent kidding. i wanted rockers but they were out so i got roots and djs and both are excellent. think i saw the full up one there and one of the scorchers (is that the instrumentals one?). can anyone rep for the djs vol. 2?

― amon (amon), Friday, 29 December 2006 07:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Both Scorchers are instrumental (or 90% instrumental, there are some vocals on the best track on both volumes "After Christmas".) Haven't heard DJs Vol 2, but the tracklist looks fantastic (even though I don't recognize any tracks from other stuff I have.) I don't think you can go too wrong with any of the Soul Jazz comps (although Classics is sort of mooted by owning the two Heartbeat comps I listed above.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Jah Thomas meets King Tubby's Inna Roots Of Dub (Rhino, 1997)
Well 'tis fine, I'd say. But didnnae quite make my day or anything.

― tiit (t**t), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I came around to the new Dub Trio record finally. The metal parts are cheap thrills and there's some great dub shit. The Patton tune is actually my least favorite track I think.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. I've heard only 1 Dub Trio track all in all. "Illegal Dub". That I did quite like.

― tiit (t**t), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

many moons xpost: amon the t-shirt was in nyc.

i am listening to dance hall style RIGHT NOW.

― violent j (sandboxhulkington), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I listened to White Mice yesterday. That's a great lost album.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i was thinking about getting that. emusic has a bunch of wackies/basic replay related stuff.

― violent j (sandboxhulkington), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope Basic Replay does a comp of their 7"/12" singles. Some of those look great ("Call Me Rambo", "King Culture presents: Cuss Cuss").

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i always forget how pretty that love joys record is.

― violent j (sandboxhulkington), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah as much as I love "Uptown Ranking", the Love Joys really put Althea & Donna to shame. Those two albums are just gorgeous.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw the white mice cd but it was the versions. rather have the vocal one.

man s0und g4rd3n has a buttload of wackies stuff in but i couldn't tell what was good: meditations, junior delahaye, african roots, etc.

― amon (amon), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i'm always kinda suprised by how stocked up s0und g4rd3n's reggae section is. (their other "world music" sections suck ass though.)

― violent j (sandboxhulkington), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

btw wackies article in new wax poetics not very enlightening (shocker).

― violent j (sandboxhulkington), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The Perry article was disappointing too. Thanks repeating every cliched thing everyone already knew, guys.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Every Wackies thing I have is great, but Reggae Goodies 1 & 2 is probably the best starting point/sampler.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Skullflower (& other Matthew Bower projects)
Sleeparchive
Matt Valentine
Alex Smoke
Burning Star Core
ooioo
& Cat Power

― john cameron octigan (cameron octigan), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

how is white mice?

― friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I really really like it, but I love early digital dancehall and Waterhouse style deejaying.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm listening to the versions and boy are they great! i love 1980s digital dancehall too so i'm def buying this. i'm not familiar with waterhouse deejaying though... any links?

― friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

well, i'll probably buy the vocals over the versions.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

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Yeah also Blackboard Jungle Dub is at least as much a King Tubby dub album as it as Perry dub album. If you want a Perry dub album then get Super Ape (which is the only Perry record that might contradict Violent J's equation above, I guess.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

revolution dub > blackboard jungle dub

― amon (amon), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you heard the Auralux reissue on a decent stereo? That version sounds miles better than the old Clocktower/RAS versions.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to Steven Bernstein's "Dybbuk Dub," if that counts.

― RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

got horace andy "good vibes" and "full up: best of studio one vol.2" used today. think that's it for me for a while, xmas bonus and gift money all used up.

― amon (amon), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i've only ever heard the track "good vibes" by horace andy, not the album (or whatever it is) -- but it's a great track!

― hm (modestmickey), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/album_detail.php?id=BAFCD019

― amon (amon), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

listening to joe gibbs joe gibbs joe gibbs joe gibbs

― amon (amon), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Next Blood & Fire set will be U-ROY 1969-75. Not sure how much more of that period of U-Roy I need, but could be some great productions which'll make it worthwhile.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Slow release time otherwise. No new Auralux, no new Hot Pot. But in addition to reissueing Brand Pressure Sounds is putting out this which is probably fantastic. Brand is really really underrated btw.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

That should be re-reissuing Brand. Also curious about this Milton Henry on Wackies, but I can probably wait on that.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

listening to joe gibbs joe gibbs joe gibbs joe gibbs

me too me too

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://musicimages.liquiddigitalmedia.com/0/6/5/8/58560.gif

― atm (atm), Thursday, 15 February 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i now have the 'no bones..' one mentioned above and african dub 1-4, state of emergency and a studio one comp called "the mighty two". all of it is great

didn't know about that "brand" album

― amon (amon), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow that's a lot of Joe Gibbs dub. I have the first five you mention and then a couple of vocal/deejay collections. Compared to Channel One or Bunny Lee, Gibbs feels kind of underrepresented in the reissue market actually although apparently he's been pretty difficult to work with so that may be entirely his fault.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

the mighty 2 comp isn't dub so much as various gibbs/et productions

― amon (amon), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I thought that it might be. I might even have that one actually haha. You mean the Heartbeat one, right?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a Soul Jazz one that's pretty good too, Roots of Dancehall or something like that (there are like twelve compilations called Roots of Dancehall aren't there haha.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

yea heartbeat

― amon (amon), Saturday, 17 February 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.pressure.co.uk/pressuresounds/catalogue/packshots/PS13.jpg

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver (hoosteen), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Burial - Burial

― X-101 (X-101), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

still haven't heard them, are they good? the only dubstep i've heard and liked so far is slaughter mob from that old 'grime' comp.

― amon (amon), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

If Sub Oslo releases a record this year I will be so happy.

― sandboxing helena (mrgn), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

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