Right, this thread is for telling folk that the 'proper' ILX is down again, so if you see this above the "ILX is back up" thread it means ILX is back down

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This was great! I got loads of work done this morning.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a radical step, but couldn't you limit a lot of the ILX problems by restricting access to logged-in users (with an 'in' for GoogleBot specifically)? That would have to cut down on a lot of the traffic and usage overwhelming the server.

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it's a bit late for such sticking-plaster measures. BRING ON THE GLORIOUS NEW DAWN. before it's too late and we all get bored.

― grimly, fiendishly not logged in, Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

after 5 years if I'm still here, despite being bored, I doubt anything can drive me away.

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

the real ilx just redirected me here...

― lf (lfam), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

But the real ILX is down. I CALL YOUR BLUFF.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

yes I haven't even gotten a poxyfule.

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm glad it's down, i'd only annoy myself by moaning on football threads

― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Thursday, 2 November 2006 09:48 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wait it's up again

zebedeeyoyopogoknickers

― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Thursday, 2 November 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Knacked again :-/

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: logsqlquery() in /home/ilx/dev/stable/boardfunctions.php on line 179

― grady (grady), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

It's down for me--I get:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: logsqlquery() in /home/ilx/dev/stable/boardfunctions.php on line 179

― patita (patita), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: logsqlquery() in /home/ilx/dev/stable/boardfunctions.php on line 179

― grady (grady), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"Fatal Error" sounds really scary. Anyone ever seen that before?

― grady (grady), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

poxy fule! first in ages!

― bronimo, Wednesday, 15 November 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

IT WAS OJ.

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Bah :-/

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

more poxy fulage....

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

the glove didn't fit!

― bronimo, Wednesday, 15 November 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Life's funny. I never thought I would be revisiting the OJ case when I got up this morning.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Clearly trife was getting to the bottom of things. The LAPD had to shut us down.

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't wait for Kobe Bryant's "How That Woman Would've Known It Was Rape."

― PPlains (PPlains), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

If I had poxy fuled, this is how I'd have done it.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

errr... still poxyfuled?

hung jury?

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's my fault, i resurrected noize thread from archives. I didn't use search though, I promise!

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

christ, it's irritatingly fucked tonight, isn't it?

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 16 November 2006 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Up and down like um..

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 16 November 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. All of the slobber and none of the pleasure.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 November 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link

COCK TEASE.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 16 November 2006 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not even poxy-fuling. The page isn't even loading. It's just...nothing :-/

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 16 November 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

The ILM page is PF, the ILE is just hangin'

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 16 November 2006 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link

and again

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 November 2006 07:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Gone again :-/

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

:-(

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 18 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

CLANK!

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

the same fucking day I go on about how reliable it's been.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I knew you were jinxing it, I just didn't want to say.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

ban stet

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, I swear it was up again for about ten minutes just now. :(

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

pfff

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet Nude Spock has something to do with it.

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

It was up long enough for me to post happy birthday to CJ and that's all that matters :-)

Nah, I am BORED! COME BACK!

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

bump :(

― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i think ILX overheated at the exact moment my radiator did on the way into work this morning...

: (

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

This is because I got all excited about it being back up and wrote a big long post about Casino Royale which people will never see now, isn't it?

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlBrL8j09Bs

― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

:-) Do you believe me about Saha yet?

Back down again. Up long enough for my pointless Casino Royale post to go through though.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I still think he thinks he's offside.

― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm getting poxy fuled again - everytime i try to post to that Michael Richards thread...

― Ned T.Rifle, Thursday, 23 November 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, it's up and down like a sideways back and forth thing.

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 23 November 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Skipping 375 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Shooting someone in the foot isn't the same as having your foot shot!

― onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Point being: there are a number of people on the boards behaving badly in various ways and NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.

This is a fully legitimate but still separate concern from the hacking question. Conflating the two issues is doing nobody any favors here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

(these analogies omg)

― onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, duh, he had no reason to ban Kate either. Also, if I was appointing people to be the judge of who ILX would be better off without (which I'm not, and never would) - Jon wouldn't exactly be top of the list, so why the fuck he gets to appoint himself the guardian of ILX is anyone's guess. xpost to Laurel

(also, Kate doesn't even know about any of this, so it hasn't exactly worked)

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

(Haha, I know!)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, and why I'm saying it's all very well going, "oh it's just Kate, she's a bit loopy and annoying haha", but I imagine it being someone other than Kate may lead the likes of Nathalie (in fact,it is just nathalie, isn't it?) to taking this a bit more seriously.

Yeah, but it's not much of a principle if you have to go "imagine if it was someone who counts" (er, not that Kate doesn't count). The principle is that it matters more if it's someone unpopular (I'd make an analogy to legal representation for terrorists, but I want to be able to turn up to Nu-Shimura Curves gigs without wearing a disguise).

And I think Nathalie acknowledges that it was wrong, but doesn't think it's important - it's Laurel that's going "Go go gadget-Jon!"

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

In otherwards, could you please allow for the fact that, perhaps, the mods maybe possibly kinda knew that there were problems with the code as it stands?

Furthermore, from what the mods and Jon have both said: the mods are not aware of the exploit that Jon used, and it is an exploit that would seem to allow him to use the boards *as any user* - he certainly said he could carry out mod actions and have it recorded that another mod had done them.

As people upthread have said: if you find a hole like that, the ethical thing to do is inform the people responsible. If they ignore you, you're then free to tell people about it. Actually *using* the hole is not ethical.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

haha 'confronting' = 'banning'. Yeah, BIG MAN.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I can understand why the moderators whould be upset with finding that Jon had somehow gained mod privileges, but everyone else using this incident as an opportunity to take pot-shots at Jon's character can sit on a rusty eggbeater. You never him.

― elmo albatross (allocryptic), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yes, by all means, explain to me again about hacking and why it's bad! (XXXP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i find this whole thing wholely hilarious. what's the old saying? arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics?

― chicago kevin has a lust for bacon (chicago kevin), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel: I am coming to NYC at the end of this week, I would like to drunk with you / ian / jon / etc.

― elmo albatross (allocryptic), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

This is getting ridiculous.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Point being: there are a number of people on the boards behaving badly in various ways and NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THEM

does ignoring them count? 'cos, you know, that's what i like to do. more people should try it some time.

unless someone's particular brand of bad behaviour involves hacking the site and fucking off the admins. that's kinda tougher to ignore.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Andrew, this is not MY principle (or lack of), I've said all the way through that this is wrong from top to bottom. I sort of guiltily laughed at Laurel going "lolz, it's just Kate, we're better off without her" and then suggested she might see it a bit differently if it was one of her friends instead of Kate.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

You never him. = my new mantra

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i find this whole thing wholely hilarious. what's the old saying? arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics?

-- chicago kevin has a lust for bacon

You don't find it hilarious, you silly little twat, you're just one of the kids who enjoys the opportunity to pat himself on the back for not being ridiculous enough to care about something other people do. These blow-ups are always plagued by that sort of shit, but for once maybe you could shut the fuck up about it and just let things get hashed out.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Elmo, you know I'm always available to drink with company. Email me/the boys/us about it and we'll make a plan.

XP: Okay, whoah. I have no idea what Kevin did to piss you off so thoroughly but I have a feeling there are like three cases of mistaken identity on this thread. Starry Sarah vs ChILX Sarah being the most amusing and harmless so far.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It is not the moderators or anyone else's job to stop people 'behaving badly', whatever that means. Pretty much the only people who ever get banned are persistent trolls, racists, people posting viruses and the occasional Marissa-type absolute fruitloop.

If we banned or cautioned everyone who was flaming or being a cunt towards another poster we'd a) never get any fucking work done and b) have no posters except Nabisco.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

i don't find it hilarious? are you sure? what are my thoughts on other topics? please enlighten me! because *i* think this is now getting funnier but i need your expert opinion on what i actually think.

― chicago kevin has a lust for bacon (chicago kevin), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

BAN KEVIN

― a_p (a_p), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"Point being: there are a number of people on the boards behaving badly in various ways and NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THEM."

Laurel, you're right about that, and I hope it's going to change. But there are about a million better ways to deal with it than by sneaking in under cover of darkness and banning someone who pisses you off. Or did you think that would increase the peace somehow?

Do you really think Jon did it because there was too much bullying on ILX? Even after his Louis Jagger bully thread?

― stet (stet), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

the next time this happens the culprit's ISP should be informed that their EULA has been violated and given the necessary evidence to prove it.

right now, the mods have decided to leave the main board down instead of continuing to play whack-a-mole with probably further abuse of the old code, and have left the sandbox up for us to play in, so no loss really.

other than that there's very little that's pertinent at this time! ilx plays host to a number of terrible children, news to no one, ever, move along or get made fun of by bored civil servants!

― TOMB07 (trm), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

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