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Enough with the photos of the bloody St. Georges flag. Argh!

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:51 (seventeen years ago) link

they are obv currying favour with the Charles Wells people aren't they? Seeing as the St George's cross appears on bottles of Bombadier.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I am quite pleased, though, that I've managed to get my mum over jet lag in a day. She whinged and moaned that I made her stay up all day on Saturday and not let her take a nap, but it did work.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Jarvis nicking stuff? I bleedin' wrote his new single, 10 years ago!

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't even want to live vicariously through FP.

I'll keep quiet then.

We saw a good pantomime at the weekend! It was at a fetish fayre, but still relied on the usual silly pantomime jokes (although there was a disappointing lack of "he's behind you!")

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

"Fetish Fayre"

...

OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, JUST KNOCK IT OFF, YOU SAD FUCKING PATHETIC GOTHS!!!!!

God, I'm turning into Marcentino. Shoot me now.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

lol

― substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Eek. Sorry Kate. I *will* shut up now, completely. And talk about model railways or something instead.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh kate, what's up now? I know it's Monday morning, and we're all grumpy, but still . . .

(remembers who I'm talking to)

. . . but of course, if you demand less Gothtalk, then it shall be done, oh great one. (fans kate with a palm leaf while peeling her grapes)

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really care, FP, I'm just jealous and cranky. You can talk about whatever you like, just ignore me growling. I'm not 100% serious.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Or I could whinge about how I broke my home PC by trying to upgrade from Gnome 2.14 to 2.16 - well, I didn't really break it, but I forgot if I did it part-way then lots of packages would end up not working, so much so that logging into Gnome would be impossible until it was completed.

Grrrr.

Oh, and how is it that women with gorgeous figures (ie, the goth, and just about every other non-obese woman i know) thinks they actually have a terrible figure and are really just a big bloaty monster when they're really really not?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:12 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, tmai!

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost wait whereas obese women usually think they have a great body?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

And raging assholes always think they're funny posters?

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:19 (seventeen years ago) link

FP, you speak the truth - about gorgeous women, not about Gnome, on which topic I am not qualified to speak upon, although some may say I'm not qualified to talk about gorgeous women either. Most women seem to think they're body shape is all wrong, when nine times out of 10 they're fucking amazing, and they just don't know it. The fact that most women don't have a clue as to how amazing they are is a source of constant anguish to me.

On A Certain Lady At Court
Alexander Pope

I know a thing that’s most uncommon;
(Envy, be silent and attend!)
I know a reasonable woman,
Handsome and witty, yet a friend.

Not warp’d by passion, awed by rumour;
Not grave through pride, nor gay through folly;
An equal mixture of good-humour
And sensible soft melancholy.

‘Has she no faults then (Envy says), Sir?’
Yes, she has one, I must aver:
When all the world conspires to praise her,
The woman’s deaf, and does not hear.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

The Narrowboat is entirely too Darling Buds of May for my tastes, but then, I would make a very poor judge of that sort of contest :)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link

apologies for the they're/their mixup, I need more coffee.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe that's what I need. Coffee.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

raging assholes?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

what a great poem, Johnney B.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

And my brother didn't take the bait about being wound up himself, and decided to wind me up with him Tom Cruise anti-psychiatric rants instead. ::rolls eyes::

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

And no one answered my question about FAPping between Xmas and New Years.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

God, Alan Hovhaness' music is so great.

― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Other than that, it's nothing. existed. here

― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

THE ANNUAL FREAKYTRIGGER INCORPORATING PUMPKIN PUBLOG 29th PUB CRAWL: THE BOROUGH BOUNDED AREA! Final route being finalised but for the first time we are South Of The River drinking in some loverly boozers. 29th December in Borough. MORE DETAILS TO FOLLOW

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Where did you get that from? The Other Place?

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm up for fun and FAPPING right through.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link

no it wasn't from Cambridge. It was from here.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Kate, midway between Xmas and New Year I will probably be so fed up with the parents that I probably *would* be up for driving down to London to FAP if I could find somewhere to crash.

A sofa, I mean, not whilst driving.

JB, that is a great poem! I've never read any Pope but I have this impression that he has a bit of a boring reputation.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah!

Ed, my mum would like sausages and bacon. Can you oblige her, maybe Wednesday or Thursday this week?

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think he's ever boring, I think that the problem with Pope is that he is very much *of his time* in most of his works. That poem has a timeless quality, but when you consider that a very famous Pope quote "A little learning is a dangerous thing" is followed by the line "Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring" you can see what I mean. WTF is a Pierian spring??? One hopes his C18th audience knew.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The only Pope I've ever read is The Rape of the Lock, but I remember being more interested in the Aubrey Beardsly illustrations than the poetry.

18th Century educated persons had access to/knowledge of a heck of a lot more obscure, often mythological, symbolism than we did. Sometimes I think we are missing out, not having that knowledge. But then I think of all the things that we have to remember these days that 18th Century poets didn't have to have any knowledge of.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Possibly thursday.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

That would be good. She is running off with my godmum tomorrow. Lord knows what the two of them will get up to!

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I love reading old poetry in one tab with wiki in the other tab so I can cross-reference archaic words and references. It reminds me of when I was little with my cheap encyclopedia and Dylan albums.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's not talk about Dylan albums, it will only make me sad. :-(

What I really hate is when you are reading an archaic book and all the footnotes are in the back, so you have to keep flipping back and forth, maybe even keep two bookmarks. I far prefer when they're at the bottom of the page, as footnotes should be, so they do not disrupt the flow of reading.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

So what is a Pieran spring?

A pedant writes: if they're at the back they're not footnotes, they're endnotes.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That's not pedantry, that's wanting a job in publishing!

whenever I hear anyone mention footnotes I always think back to the style guide from when I was writing my dissertation at uni. There was a supserscript 1 in the midst of the text and at the foot of the page the footnote read "1Don't use footnotes."

I have read books in my time when the footnote is longer than the text above the horizontal rule, which is just silly.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

so superscript tags don't work here. I see.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

A spring in Ancient Greece that was sacred to the Muses and inspired poets and the like if you drank it.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I've read books where the footnote takes up a page and a half! Just make it another section, fool!

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

of course such horrors would never be allowed in one of our publications.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:01 (seventeen years ago) link

It's usually science books that have the mega-long footnotes that go on for pages. Those can go in the back of the book. But it's like those one-liners that define archaic words or explain current events that are being referenced which really should just go at the bottom of the page.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

do you prefer the Vancouver or Harvard referencing style, Kate?

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't even know what that means.

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Vancouver - references are numbered throughout the text in sequence and then are listed numerically in the bibliography

Harvard - the name of the author (or authors, though et al is more common for more than two) and date are given throughout the text and the bibliography is listed alphabetically by authors' surnames.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Ann Coulter is very good with endnotes

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I dont' give a shit about bibliographical footnotes! (Though I always used the Vancouver method when I still bothered writing papers.) I just care about the ones that explain what archaic 18th Century words mean!

― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Vancouver does rule. Harvard, although the older and preferred system, suffers from the disadvantage that if Smith & Jones wrote a huge corpus of work during 2005 and the author of the paper or book wants to cite several of these works, then you then have to employ (Smith & Jones, 2005a), (Smith & Jones, 2005b), ect ect. And what if there are two A. Smiths and you want to quote both of them???

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

We had to use the Harvard style at university, and no footnotes at all. If you studied history, though, you had to put your references in footnotes.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

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