Dear ILE - a plea

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Why is it that the Internet seems to bring out the worst in so many folks? Are they unable to express their frustrations in real life, so they have to let everything come out online, even if their targets people they don't really know?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

"targets are"

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, just because you can make anonymous insults towards random people doesn't mean you have to.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I see it as when people go mad when their computer goes broke: you really turn into this raging maniac wanting to hurl it outside and smash the walls. It's really weird.

nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Because we have no real life enemies, apart from the terrorists and that guy across the office floor with the annoying laugh and appalling ringtone. xpost

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is it that the Internet seems to bring out the worst in so many folks? Are they unable to express their frustrations in real life...

the internets is a part of real life where instead of spending time with people you a) like b) can earn money with you spend time with a self-selected variety of people, some of whom you like, some of whom are complete fuckwads you want banned.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: dude, that must be a great thing for you, cause in my *real life* i have a lot of people i want deleted. ;-) sometimes i think ilx brings the best in me out cause in real life i can be somewhat nasty. hahaha

nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I got totally shouted down and called out for being high and mighty, holier than thou, high horse riding gallant Sir Gregory of St Kitts for saying something like this a week or so ago, hence my lack of confidence in such a thing ever working. Good luck, though. I'm just gonna go back to being a cunt whenever I feel like it.

teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

SECKS SELLS etc

teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

of course it won't work, but we have to try anyway. being a hippie cunt. ;-)

nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I dislike your manner

crosspost

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I couldn't give a shit. I dislike you.

teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

is it morning tea yet?

Gem (gem ), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:27 (seventeen years ago) link

the internets is a part of real life where instead of spending time with people you a) like b) can earn money with you spend time with a self-selected variety of people, some of whom you like, some of whom are complete fuckwads you want banned.

Yeah, but there's still a difference between reacting to something they say, and just reacting to them regardless of what they do. There people I don't like in real life, but I don't go on shouting "HEY, ASSHOLE!" every time I catch a glance of them.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

fulfilling your own prophecy is sort of cheating, g-kit

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

dude, that must be a great thing for you, cause in my *real life* i have a lot of people i want deleted

i guess it is. but the aggro i have with some people on ILX can sometimes be just as annoying and can have some implications on my social life (living in london as i do).

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i generally keep a big ol' wall between irl and ilx, it allows more freedom of disagreement/hate here.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

nice for you!

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

that said if i move back to cambridge, the idea of *not* meeting louis jagger feels just... wrong.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

if u want to score with girl, never let her see your disagreement-hate

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

never let your fuck-want see your disagreement-hate.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

If kittens and skunks can get along, surely we all can?

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm all for a bit of peace and quiet, I scaled down being around these parts because the lol pwnage was just getting too tedious for words.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1161382099-1161360523005.t.jpg

PWEASE

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Won't somebody think of the Pringles?

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Pwingles.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

if i see one more photo of a g*ddamned cat i'm gonna snap

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Frankly I'm disappointed my Alpaca Movement didn't get more momentum behind it.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

If alpacas are making 'movements', you don't want to be getting behind them.

C J (C J), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

fulfilling your own prophecy is sort of cheating, g-kit

lolz
But oh, that's not so fair. Telling somebody you dislike them is hardly an atrocity. It's not possible to like everyone.

teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Sloths never got of the ground either; apart from the unfulfilled promise of a DC ilxor to get one tattooed emerging from her cleavage.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.perutrip.net/imagenes-peru/high-peru-galeria/arequipa/alpacas-arequipa.jpg

The best thing is how they always look like they're smiling at you.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The Alpaca movement did inspire me to go looking for Llamatron, though.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://bss.sfsu.edu/geog/bholzman/courses/fall99projects/sloth2.jpg

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The Alpaca movement did inspire me to go looking for Llamatron, though.


Is that in Wales?

C J (C J), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

TEH_YAK?

teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

if only moon jellyfish were cute:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/388510636_ee98553599_m.jpg

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I think part of the problem is that it's impossible to communicate in writing with the nuances of speech. Quite a lot of the barbed comments made on this board are, I suspect (I hope) intended as no more than light-hearted ribbing and banter, but it's very hard to get that across when the mode of communication allows no inflection.

Having said that, there has been some seriously nasty and deplorable shit going down recently, exemplified in the bullying of Louis, who seems totally inoffensive to me ninety percent of the time (unlike some of his more persistent bullies).

Chap (chap), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Correct CJ, just outside Bangora.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Or these spindly things I don't know the name of:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/386735658_bc58d0a825_m.jpg

xpost

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not sure you can extrapolate snappy terms like 'pwned', 'zing' and 'noob' from a sense of frostiness or indeed obnoxiousness, however good your intentions may be. if so perhaps that is part of the problem.

when did '133t' speak take off on ILE anyway? only in the last couple of years have i really noticed it here. even 'lol' and similar didn't seem so ubiquitous three years ago.

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I just went to a meeting and was dreading re-reading this thread. But it's not yet become the shitstorm. Perhaps by lunchtime in the US :)

xpost - resumo, it's been around since I joined in Nov 2001, I reckon.

It's Teatime in Buttercup Land (Maaarghk C), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

hi dere noizification

xpost

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

P¦-¦/-\Y \/\//-\Z 0¦\¦[3 T¦-¦33 0¦\¦¦_Y 11!!111111

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

did you use a translator for that?

teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not possible to like everyone.

But it's possible to not tell them.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link

These are good sentiments Mark. Most of these bad vibes have gone over my head since I have kind of retreated to posting on a few threads only. (I've never even heard of Mickey fwiw.) I enjoyed the sandbox last time as it sort of seemed smaller and more friendly in general. I was planning to stop posting altogether, but haven't (yet) done so. There are still some really great people on here and that's what keeps me coming back.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Tell All Certain Truths

spells TACT

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

But it's ok to tell somebody you dislike their manner? I was simply reacting. I srsly doubt RJG is crying into his lunchbox over this. I'm 100% certain he feels the same way about me. Who's the victim here?
I get shit for being passive/aggressive, I get shit for telling it straight. I get shit for trying to encourage people to be nicer on ILX, I get shit when I'm not nice. How 2 win @ ILX plz?

teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link

The principle, which is being tried out more than imposed, is that it could be better for meta stuff to not derail threads needlessly.

So instead of your beef getting pushed to one side on the WC thread, and then popping its head up in Noise and various other places, could instead be hashed out here. It lets things that need to come to head, er, come to one, without trashing threads. It lets people call someone out for something cuntish, and lets other people give their opinion without it being smeared across 17 threads.

Basically, I guess you could see it as somewhere for self-policing to happen without getting in the way.

stet (stet), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but bunging it somewhere no-one can see = it'll just be another noize board rofflez thread, reaching the people who can be arsed reading a load of meta shite and not doing anything constructive because the majority of the board probably won't give a toss, and you don't think the mentality will spill over elsewhere until everything ends up here? (worst case scenario, obv, perhaps some people are better than I'm giving them credit for)

I said, I like it in principle. I hate that shitloads of people have piled in on a small issue I had with the way people were being treated by Kate and the way she felt she had control over a part of ILX and made it some big AILSA V KATE FITE OH NOES incident when that was never my intention and then it kept spiralling and spinning off into every thread and got brought up here when I was at work and I went off on one because I'm sick fed up of people misunderstanding what I'm on about and it's not even just me that's doing it anyway, there's Kate-directed snark all over the board and at least I was trying to vocalise exactly what my beef was, which was with ONE FUCKING THREAD. I'm backing well the fuck away from the whole fiasco now. People are making this something it's not, and I hate it and it's actually really fucking bothering me. I made some crappy jokes about Kate killfilling me for a cheap self-deprecating roffle and now I've gone back to posting pictures of old towns and talking about washing machines.

Perhaps it got lost upthread when Stevem completely misunderstood everything I said and suggested I go and start a rival watercooler thread and I said "Because I shouldn't need to. There's one there already. And I'm not going to make it a taking sides ailsa vs kate, which I'm pretty sure she would if people deserted "her" thread for "mine". I don't need it or care that much, I just don't like being told what I can and can't post on ILE by someone who's not a moderator."

Can I just make it REALLY REALLY CLEAR I'm not going to react to Kate being Kate by being Kate too.

However, I am getting terrible meta about it. Thank God for this board!

I think the point I am trying to make is that I've been inadvertently caught up the whole meta-thing that led to this, so if I want to ask questions about it, I'm trying to point out that I've no real self-interest, I'm just asking general questions on behalf of an enquiring mind, not someone who intends being a flaming nuisance to anyone in particular on the board.

(I'm off to have some real life now. It'll be good for me)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 17 February 2007 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not misunderstanding you and I didn't say 'rival' thread. There's just no reason for there not to be (yet) another 'idle chit-chat' thread, esp. when it would probably be a lot freer of silly arguments about what can/can't be talked about. It just makes more sense.

resumo impetus (blueski), Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

daughtered in a ilx beef

unfished business (Scourage), Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Why don't we ban kate? 90% of drama resolved?

jw (ex machina), Saturday, 17 February 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate that shitloads of people have piled in on a small issue I had with the way people were being treated by Kate and the way she felt she had control over a part of ILX and made it some big AILSA V KATE FITE OH NOES incident when that was never my intention and then it kept spiralling and spinning off into every thread and got brought up here when I was at work and I went off on one because I'm sick fed up of people misunderstanding what I'm on about and it's not even just me that's doing it anyway, there's Kate-directed snark all over the board and at least I was trying to vocalise exactly what my beef was, which was with ONE FUCKING THREAD

Longest sentence on ILX?

onimo - concentrating on the real issues (nu_onimo), Saturday, 17 February 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

There's this old gem from IRE:

how can a person feel good again with ptsd anxity depression anger hate guilt and shame i was sexually abused as a child and as an addddult had my first child at age twelve my second at age sixteen andmy third at age twentyseven i have nothing no money i was taken from my parents by the state but i ran away becaused i was being influenced by my abuser and the state put me in his custody he shot two police men infront of me his familt blames me for it all for trying to get away from him i was tying to run for my life and made him mad and they say i made him do it i lost my son to his family of fear to contact any of them he hates me my oldest who is twentyone we just met eachother and slowly trying to build a relationship witheach other that is a dream come true but i feel cheated violated robbed of my childhood my teenhood motherhood my education i have a thired grade education i have had to fight to servive i have nothing no money my body never went back to shape my skin is all stretch out i have stretch marks everyware my stomach mymy arms and legs i have never felt sexy or happy or secure all of my life how do i acheave this and become someone i will like to be and to feel comfortable with who i am i need to start a new chapter in my life but i need help i thought i would conect real well with Robin could you see whatyou can do to help a desprate person i really need someone to talk to who i ca trut honestly who wont judge me who really wants to help me and wont abandoned me .

-- Michelle ST.Pierre (frnchpierr...), September 25th, 2006.

step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Saturday, 17 February 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Stevem, there shouldn't need to be another chit-chat thread. I don't want there to be another one. I nearly like the one that's there apart from the hovering "step out of (MY) line, you ain't welcome round here boi" threat implicit throughout. And, as I said, you (or Kate) try convincing me that starting one where you can having fleeting mentions of reality TV or sporting concerns isn't going to be perceived as barrier drawing. Doing that = saying KATE IS WRONG. I'm not going to be the person to do that, no matter what she or anyone else thinks.

I don't even want to talk about football and telly and whatever on the watercooler. What started this whole recent shitfest off was Kerr mentioning Paris Hilton displaying racist tendencies and asking what teh watercooler massive thought. I said what I thought in passing and referred to another populist incident of "celebrity racism". then I (not Kerr) got shit for dragging non-Kate-ordained stuff into the Watercooler. At that time, it was kind of difficult to go "ooh some high profile people be racist" without mentioning BB. I even apologised for having to mention it! Oh read the fucking thread yourselves. I didn't even break Kate's precious fucking "rules", yet I still got scapegoated. THIS IS WHY I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS SHITE ANY MORE IT IS RIDICULOUS.

(fuck, I actually typed that with gritted teeth)

Also, Gerry, yes, you are hilarious. You're also walking to the football on Tuesday now. Ho ho, meta or what.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 17 February 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ha, I should get one fucking blog, like waht I said to Kate. Except stet's made one for me.

(joke - seriously, I never went in for the self-justifying on real-ILX/sandbox because it would have been too meta. Now I can. Hurrah! Except I feel like an over-reacting tit, whatever that feels like, ha, please stop me typing I AM DRUNK)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 17 February 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

let go

onimo (nu_onimo), Sunday, 18 February 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

roffle?

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Sunday, 18 February 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

roll to me

acrobat (acrobat), Sunday, 18 February 2007 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

If it gets too serious the fanny is removed, but usually "ignore him her, he's k8's a fanny" suffices.

-- onimo (ilx.onim...), February 15th, 2007 1:10 PM. (nu_onimo)

fixed XD

amon (amon), Sunday, 18 February 2007 07:09 (seventeen years ago) link

GAIE

fake pablo (Pablo), Sunday, 18 February 2007 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link

bump

amon (amon), Monday, 19 February 2007 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really see why the Watercooler hasn't been taken onto its own closed mailing list by now. It's always the same ten or so posters anyway, and at least it would allow Kate to do the 'my gaff, my rules thing' to her heart's content without worrying about undesirables reading the thing and using it against her.

I think this of the rest of the chat threads as well TBH but the Watercooler in particular seems to be of even more limited appeal.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 February 2007 09:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone can post on it. I never posted on the early ones, i didn't know Kate at all yet I was welcomed there.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i just think of it as another local thread like mongrels/sheepfux0rz which i've literally never gone into.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Historically the Watercooler threads were started because K felt she was being shouted down or ridiculed on the TITWIS threads, so really there's no reason why anyone unhappy with the way things are done in WC land couldn't similarly start a chat thread of their own, even though I agree with Matt that this type of thing will most likely lead to further atrophy/entropy at board level.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

shit is so fucked people don't even know what is or isn't a parody thread.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

This is my high horse, get the fuck off.

teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

shit is so fucked people don't even know what is or isn't a parody thread.

Then stop being the shitfucker!

It's Teatime in Buttercup Land (Maaarghk C), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Q: What is ILX about?

A: ILX

resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't even tell who is and isn't joking any more.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i am joking.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link


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