Right, this thread is for telling folk that the 'proper' ILX is down again, so if you see this above the "ILX is back up" thread it means ILX is back down

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Not giving a shit vs thinking your post was dumb, TS.

I don't think Jon's intentions were good at all. I do think that making a point to state openly it was Jon instead of dealing with that some other way is just causing a tremendous amount more problems than there might've been otherwise though (though I can understand stet writing something like what is on the main ilx pg in anger).

Allyzay P. Boxcars (trm), Sunday, 11 February 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW, while we're fixing security holes, you do not need to have "revoke" powers to delete people's mod privledges.

Allyzay P. Boxcars (trm), Sunday, 11 February 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost I just feel like jon piddled on our collective leg, and it'll wash out.

there to preserve disorder (kenan), Sunday, 11 February 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I do think that making a point to state openly it was Jon instead of dealing with that some other way is just causing a tremendous amount more problems than there might've been otherwise though (though I can understand stet writing something like what is on the main ilx pg in anger).

Yea, this is probably fair -- and I was pissed. I'll change it to something a bit less inflammatory when I get a chance.

stet (stet), Sunday, 11 February 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever Keith and Stet say is good by me - maybe Jon can make his own board in the interim (or perhaps we could, you know, just go somewhere else, ilx is fucking toxic these days)

Sarah (Science of Unforunate Events), Sunday, 11 February 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i know this much: it's not as good as it used to be.

there to preserve disorder (kenan), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

There was something he posted earlier - a screengrab of something - where his login stuff include mod things. I sort of noticed, but didn't think it that weird. That was maybe about 9 or 10 hours ago?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

(weird enough that I noticed, not weird enough to alert others, that is)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe Jon can make his own board in the interim

he would've done this two years if he wanted to. there's enough people and topics of interest to keep him here and obviously ilx is more desirable due to it's huge audience and google profile (as long as you don't mention people in any kind of bad light of course), despite it's technical flaws which thankfully some people are only to willing to expose in as cynical a fashion as possible (how else would they get fixed otherwise?).

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, done being hysterical. (i can't drive b/c of law, can't leave the house. whatevah.. i gots projects)

the table is the table (trees), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Well it's not so bad that certain things JW said on the other board have been deleted - I have lost any sense of having ANY respect for the guy after that horrific bullying on that LJ thread. But perhaps this is because I live in a post-Jade environment and this is the ghost of Shilpa speaking.

Sarah (Science of Unforunate Events), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i've lost count of people one could accuse of having bullied louis, mind you.

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it's around 12.

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Steve, you know the thing I'm talking about, that was fucking disgusting and I can't see how that could be defensible in any way! And you also know who did it!

Sarah (Science of Unforunate Events), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh great!

Sarah (Science of Unforunate Events), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno what Starry's referring to, maybe I missed all the fun? But there are a couple of people around here I wouldn't miss for their sheer hatefulness, and JW isn't one of them.

Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

(what thing was this?!)

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.chipshirts.com/photoshop/scarface.jpg

First you get the money. Then you get the amyl. Then you get the poppage.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah what happened 2 outrage starrysarah???? i missed it :'(~

aidsy (aidsy), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

trees, welcome to my world. go cry about it.

hm (modestmickey), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

From how I'm reading it here I don't think the admins understand what I did. I don't want to talk too much about what I did, but without knowing a little bit more about how stuff works, I couldn't get access to the site at a global level let alone raw database access. I only every had moderator powers on ile. I made a little two little mod actions that showed up in the log and that was it. The same vulnerability would let me take moderator actions as any other moderator, but I decided not to do that as it would be really annoying to figure out what was going on.

I don't really see the logic in keeping ilx down since only a few people know how to do this and in the like 20 hours I was mod for, I did nothing with it. As far as the defensibility of my own actions, that isn't really pertinent to this.

Also, I have no idea what Sarah's saying. Maybe she should fuck off if she wants to slander me privately to everyone in the world?

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

In short, I don't even know who you are or why you have a preexisting problem with me, but you can kindly get fucked and leave.

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I did nothing with it.

Apart from banning another poster, you mean? I'm not going to join in the witch hunt, I don't have any particular problem with you and 80% of the time you don't even register with me. Still, not mentioning this is being a tad disingenuous and doesn't exactly leave me inclined to believe everything else you're saying.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to JW: hmm. ultimately, it's the admins' decision what to do with the board. if they think what you've done warrants this response, jon, i support them - and i'd hope most of the rest of ILX would too. they, after all, are sensible people whom i trust. you're a pest whom i don't.

grimly fiendish (simon), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

(and i don't have a fucking clue what you did; i'm just back from a weekend away. all i can gather is that it involved hacking and dickery.)

grimly fiendish (simon), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought starry was initially referring to your 'l0u1s takes drugs' thread on IRE, but unsure.

I don't want to talk too much about what I did

why not? sounds interesting!

The same vulnerability would let me take moderator actions as any other moderator, but I decided not to do that as it would be really annoying to figure out what was going on.

i'm sure they will appreciate this a lot, v thoughtful of u!

I don't really see the logic in keeping ilx down since only a few people know how to do this

if only a few people know, why bother to demonstrate the flaw at all, as opposed to just contacting the coders discreetly?

As far as the defensibility of my own actions, that isn't really pertinent to this.

convenient!

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

holy shit, jon banned someone. that is totally unheard of on ilx and would probably take hours if not weeks to undo. better shut the whole operation down, guys.

hm (modestmickey), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

shut "faggot" mickey down more like

lexpretend (lexpretend), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Apart from banning another poster, you mean?

jon was considerate enough to ban someone he knows doesn't post on ilx at weekends...figuring it would be revoked before monday morning. i don't think people really appreciate his thoughtfulness here.

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Still, not mentioning this is being a tad disingenuous and doesn't exactly leave me inclined to believe everything else you're saying.

Well, I didn't let's say... lock ile... which is what in effect what has been done. Taking toys, and going home, etc

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sam/WWII/pics/insane.jpg

friday on the porch (lfam), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

And banning someone from ile is not ok, but bullying several posters off of posting to threads you start and being a hateful lunatic is totally ok?

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

jon was considerate enough to ban someone he knows doesn't post on ilx at weekends...figuring it would be revoked before monday morning. i don't think people really appreciate his thoughtfulness here.

-- sede vacante (n...) (webmail), February 11th, 2007 10:09 PM. (blueski) (later) (link)

Well, I figured I had already shown up in the admin log, so I might as well do something silly... but yea

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Jon - the Lou1s J4gger drugz stuff on IRE - I obviously can't link to it now, I think limited amount of people saw it, and I only saw it when someone else pointed me at it (and wouldn't have seen it any other way). It was horrible stuff - you've got to see why people wouldn't feel exactly great towards you after seeing it, right?? And after whatever you've done today - and we can at least agree you did SOMETHING - it's not painting a great picture!

As Matt says though, most of the time you don't register much with me, and I guess I don't register much with you either, but why is it that whenever you DO it's for things like this?

Sarah (Science of Unforunate Events), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I thought you mean something else.

As Matt says though, most of the time you don't register much with me, and I guess I don't register much with you either, but why is it that whenever you DO it's for things like this?

Because you only post on Chicago threads?

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

if only a few people know, why bother to demonstrate the flaw at all, as opposed to just contacting the coders discreetly?

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

all ilx got sonned this time. pwnd!

http://www.dartreview.com/archives/Ahmadinejad.jpg

hm (modestmickey), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

if only a few people know, why bother to demonstrate the flaw at all, as opposed to just contacting the coders discreetly?

-- sede vacante (n...) (webmail), February 11th, 2007 10:14 PM. (blueski) (later) (link)


Honestly, I planned on doing something kind of silly and non harmful (taking over IDME) and then having them see what's up.

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I still have hostile Canadian javascript

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

this is boring. i'm bored now.

there to preserve disorder (kenan), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

you should go and visit mickey

esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/razzyorg/avrilisugly.gif

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Can we just fast-forward through the whole massive fight and get straight to the bit when Ronan posts a series of messages mocking the whole situation in a vaguely surreal manner?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

you know the difference between a discussion/argument and a fite tho right?

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

a fite has css

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't wait until ilx goes back to normal! you know, when people are monstrous assholes spewing vile at each other and nobody shuts down the whole thing because of silly little incidents.

hm (modestmickey), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.hush.cz/img/welcome.jpg

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

A fite has alpacas.

http://www.shutterfreaks.com/albums2/album66/Sammy_Adams.jpg

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.dickdestiny.com/megafortsmall.JPG

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link


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