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new ying yang is boring. or maybe i was just in a bad mood.

― scott seward (121212), Saturday, 2 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

it is so freaking silly to ask, all huffily, "could [thug motivation 102: the inspiration] be any more like thug motivation?" Jeezy sounds like fucking Jeezy. That is how he sounds. His verses on the Hustlin' and Cannon remixes sound like... Jeezy. I really really like the way he sounds. I tired quickly of Mike Jones going "Mike Jones" over and over again, but every time i hear Jeezy drawl "daaammmmmmmmmnnnn," "ayyye" and "yeahhhhhhh" and triumphantly go "ha-ha" it is like the first time and it is amazing & beautiful.

to describe "more fish" as both "shitty" and "a piece of shit," and further be confused as to the difference between a "mixtape" and an "album," betrays: a dislike of Ghostface; some ignorance about hip hop more generally.

― Ann McCarthy (annmccarthy), Sunday, 3 December 2006 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I find it interesting that the big consensus rap albums this year (namely Ghost, TI, Clipse) are not "safe" in the typical Kanye, De La, Fugees, etc mold. I suppose there's also the Roots & Lupe Fiasco, but their albums are, respectively, technically accomplished, but boring, and blatantly horrible. Neither seems to be getting quite the blanket praise that the other three I named are. Is this some sort of big turn for the hivemind?

― Rodney Von Bushwickin The Barbarian Mother-Funky Stay High Dollar Billster (Rodn, Sunday, 3 December 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i really like the lupe fiasco album!!!

i like the TI as well, and chamillionaire in the same way that i like the pussycat dolls, and i will FINALLY get around to clipse today.

i want another trina album.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Sunday, 3 December 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm starting to hate Young Jeezy, where I was just so-so on him before. Part of it is that he only rhymes at the end of each line, but in really sloppy patterns (no A-A-B-B or even A-B-A-B, just random shit that doesn't match up in even some weird clever way), part of it's just because of how unabashedly lazy "I Luv It" is ("What You Know" beat + "Trap Star" chorus). Anytime Jeezy makes a record that sounds like a T.I. record, it just reminds me that dude got in Tip's lane at almost the exact same level of success with a lot less talent.

new ying yang is boring. or maybe i was just in a bad mood.

Yeah, the words "executive produced by Wyclef" scared me off, and it seems like they barely promoted it. Mr. Collipark was always the best part of their records, and apparently he disagreed with the direction on the new album so much that he just announced he's not working w/ Ying Yang anymore.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Sunday, 3 December 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm starting to hate Young Jeezy, where I was just so-so on him before.

same here. and i've grown to love the mike jones album

― amon (amon), Sunday, 3 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i kinda like that jeezy/timbaland but the one with tip & kanye feels like its bout 20 minutes of jeezy & 5 choruses before the other dudes get to rap

dont really see how critics overrating clipse & ghost is a break from the general mold of de la/kanye/fugees - same dudes gave alot of ink to more deserving wu shit back in the day for the same weirdo reasons & clipse is just updated mid 90s biggie/mobb/snoop shows us the nihilistic-yet-thrilling horrors of the ghetto bullshit with a dash of post-backpacker wordplay

― and what (ooo), Sunday, 3 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

most unnecessary album of the year: pac's life

― amon (amon), Sunday, 3 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

original version of the pacs life single that samples prince is good - you can get it on one of those 90s makaveli bootlegs

its crazy that established artists are doing like 50k at best this year while another posthumous 2pac album goes 200k first week

― and what (ooo), Sunday, 3 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://thunder_1st.tripod.com/Keep_It_REAL/Bootlegs.htm

I figured it was time for me to speak on all the shark ass bitches making money off of my nigga Pac.

― and what (ooo), Sunday, 3 December 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

im actually sort of liking the inspiration more that tm 101, esp. the timbaland and "hypnotize," which makes me imagine jeezy selling coke on the new MOON BASE or somethiing.

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

also i like that he says "hypmatize"

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm listening to (what i think is) an advance of Jeezy & Juelz's "I Can't Feel My Face". ain't so bad cept juelz does some really stupid rhying the exact same word for way too long

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I find the Common Cap commercial quite charming for some reason. I probably should hate it, but I like it.

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it just me or was T.I.'s "Why You Wanna" criminally overlooked?

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to myself, i mean weezy and juelz. jeezy weezy whatevs

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

dave chappipple!

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm listening to (what i think is) an advance of Jeezy & Juelz's "I Can't Feel My Face". ain't so bad cept juelz does some really stupid rhying the exact same word for way too long
-- jaxon (gnarls.in.charg...), December 7th, 2006.

i think the deal with that, IIRC, is that Juelz and Wayne spent months and months hyping up their collab mixtape and delaying it and talking about maybe making it an official album, that a mixtape DJ finally just took some of the leaked tracks and other random stuff they've done and cobbled it together as "the prequel" to the actual mixtape which has yet to be released.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

also yeah SHOCKER juelz can't rap. it's amazing that jim jones routinely gets the "worst rapper in dipset" tag considering that santana exists.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh
Kay
Ay

Yep
Dipset

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

(I forgot)

Dipset
Dipset
Dip
Set

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

it was a bad idea to even start discussing dipset at all, wasn't it.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

So... the second disc of this Tyrese album...

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I am totally ready for this thread to be all about the "Black Ty" CD. Please, proceed.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

The new Ying Yang Twins album is unbelievably bad.

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Charted really poorly too (which I say while knowing that I risk spawning another 300-post thread about whether it's okay to hate on rap albums for "bricking"), debuted at #40 when their last album debuted at #2, i think even that mini-album/EP thing from a year ago sold better. What's bad about it, though, compared to their old stuff? (I don't disbelieve you, I'm sure it's terrible, but I'm mordibly curious as to what the factors are, aside from Wyclef.)

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Black Ty sez:

As soon as I walked in the club
I started looking for a girl who sucked dick like she made it up
I know you're out there somewhere
Baby don't keep it to yourself, share
To all the freaks, let me see
Drop it like it's hot and make me a believer
I know there's a whole lot of freaks in the dirty dirty
Motherfuckers gettin' high feelin' flirty
Dem down south boys they're the craziest
Them west coast boys be scandalous
Dem midwest n*gg*s be dangerous

The end of each line is pronounced either "uhh" or "ehh"

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.leenite.org/jonisland/graphics/jon~qa2.jpg

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

Lol @ the idea of a "prequel" to a mixtape!

spoiler alert: Wayne's hot rappin' skills are the result of mitoclorians!!!

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Collipark intros the album saying that the first part of the album is for the old school fans and that on the second half Wyclef and some Tony Wonder or whoever is gonna take them into exciting new musical worlds. The first half is just really tired, even for a group known for repeating hooks and catchphrases into the ground. Wyclef's half goes for a little novelty but "Dangerous" and "Leave" (about how if you don't like your wife's career as a stripper you should just leave and let her breathe) are the only ones with any musical spark, but the sung hooks are painful (Wyclef bellowing the hook from "Maneater"). Then Collipark comes back to say he has to outro the album himself cuz the Twins are missing, only this is followed by a song about how they're gonna bust it open, and another about how they're still here.

There HAS to be label/producer drama behind something this uninspired so soon after U.S.A., which was half great.

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheri Oteri is totally giggling at Black Ty's ineptitude at dispelling gay rumors by rapping lines like "Motherfuckers gettin' high feelin' flirty/ Dem down south boys they're the craziest" (xpost)

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

If I have any shame about overrating Yet More Ghostface and a more backpackish Mobb Deep, its not because I've heard rap that's more worthy of commendation this year.

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

yo hip-hop heads head-ups for

My Old Kentucky Blog: The Best Rap/Hip-Hop of 2006
http://myoldkyhome.blogspot.com/2006/12/best-raphip-hop-of-2006.html

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i remember the first time I heard "Dangerous" it was just the very end when the beat changes up for a few measures and it sounded really unexpected and awesome, hearing the actual whole song was pretty disappointing. i'm amazed they actually tried to launch an album with that as the single, i don't think anybody liked it.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

hell, even heard ABOUT rap that sounds more worthy.

x-post, not that that list changed anything.

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, the jump into "Black Betty" is the kind of whim that the album really needs more of.

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

And I ain't laughin' holmes
When Black Ty come on it's like a danger zone

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i keep forgetting to listen to that rhymefest album again...i liked it alright, i should give it another go...i liked it more than the lupe album, which didn't age well for me.

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

im telling you, if you can still get into mid-90s nyc rap, the AZ album is fucking golden. "the format" is my rap single of the year.

― max (maxreax), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah the Rhymefest album was pretty high on my year-end list when I first heard it, but I think I lost my copy and it wasn't so great that I'm going to bother to get another copy or keep it on any lists on the basis of a handful of listens from months ago. but I just got the Lupe album pretty recently so it's still sounding fresh to my ears.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

thx max,

i keep forgetting abt that AZ album! i gotta get that.

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i know no one will care since i was like the only person that liked Mos Def's last album, but apparently he's up for a grammy?! and he's been working on an album that's supposed to come out in january called Tru3 Magic.

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I discovered g-funk via the Menace II Society soundtrack and I can't get enough of it.

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

welcome to 1992

― max (maxreax), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

(not in like a mean way, in like, im still here too, so welcome)

― max (maxreax), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

to be fair the whole "Urban/Alternative" category is tailor made for bullshit noone likes like the last Mos Def album

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

welcome to 1992

i recently got the first bone thugs album. in highschool i was "above" listening to commercial/gangster rap, but that shit is so good. kicking myself now.

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i heard that new mos def song...yuck.

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost jaxon i was just bumping creepin' on a come up! that fucking EP rules...i forgot how wierd those dudes were "will i die of muuuuurdah? of bloody muuuuuuurdah?"

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Mos Def's out 12.19, isn't it?

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

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I should listen to more than the singles I've heard. It's just hard to get past every other word being some other rapper's names and his pathetic whining about people who aren't his friends anymore.

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY CAPTAIN SAVE-A-SCIONS

http://www.scion.com/mix/dj_ayres.html

― deej (deej), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

http://cache.umusic.com/images/local/500/0abe1b1e-b4a3-47bb-832b-b2b1c32d44d5.jpg
Bishop Lamont (middle)
Background information
Birth name Philip Martin
Origin Carson, California
Genre(s) West Coast hip hop
Gangsta rap
Occupation(s) Rapper
Years active 2004-present
Label(s) Aftermath/Interscope
Associated
acts Glasses Malone, G.A.G.E.
Website bishoplamont.com

The Reformation?? who is this . . .

dreams wz cool bt game's real cool joints were on the shoulders of 50's lyrical strength

― Loretta, Criptscorp International (HGULTRUISLIM), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

bronxrap.com has a link to a sendspace of the new termanology mixtape, kinda exited!

― just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

deej otm, re: Game

― The Reverend shines like a lighthouse (Rodney J. Greene), Monday, 19 February 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate the Game like Nas hated Jay-Z
more hate than LL took from Kool Moe Dee

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Monday, 19 February 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/the_game/advocate/why_hate.gme.txt

― deej (deej), Monday, 19 February 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

'Pac is watchin' B.I.G. is listenin'
While Pun talkin' to us Jam Jay still spinnin'

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Monday, 19 February 2007 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Some time when I'm bored I need to tally Game refs and see which rapper's dick he truly rides the most.

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Monday, 19 February 2007 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still shocked the game doesn't have a blog

― m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Monday, 19 February 2007 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

allhiphop.com or some other site like that tallied all the references on The Documentary, I think it was posted on ILM at the time, but yeah it'd be interesting if someone updated it to include the new album and maybe his mixtapes.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

(Big xp here but for a do or die fan you should really know twista's style is all chicago. He even dissed bone thugs about it back in the days of silly midwest beef)

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Anybody check out that OhWord '50 incredible tracks' shit? Some of those songs are pretty great and I'm glad to hear some of the shit I had missed, but some of the selections are weird and random and some seem really obvious next to the others. Like "Brownsville," really? Thats like the opening track off MOP's biggest album! And what rap nerds don't know "Just a Friendly Game of Baseball" or "Reign of the Tec"? Its also really NY centric for the most part, with a few important exceptions courtesy Noz. On the whole its worth it if for the discovery of Mac Mall's "My Opinion" alone

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Thats my discovery of "My Opinion" obviously

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

also picked one of the most-blogged keak songs ever! Should have used some 3x Krazy or something

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 06:00 (seventeen years ago) link

man this jeru song sucks ("Seinfeld")

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd never heard "2 Glock Nines" before, more proof that Biggie lines = best hooks ever

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

oh never mind re: brownsville, i thought it was the one from Warriorz

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link

haha this Mack 10 song is kind of dope

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ohword.com/blog/631/50-incredible-rap-songs-41-50

btw

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm. Apparently a rumor went around this weekend that E-40 died.

― The Reverend shines like a lighthouse (Rodney J. Greene), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Byron Hurt documentary for PBS, "Hip-Hop: Beyond Beats and Rhymes," airing tonight Tuesday (at least in the DC area and maybe elsewhere) on "Independent Lens." Yer usual folks offering comments in the doc: Michael Dyson, Kevin Powell and Chuck D. Maybe it will be worth checking out.

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Anybody check out that OhWord '50 incredible tracks' shit?

just DLd this...pretty cool...got one of my fav tracks..."Kick the Ball" by Krown Rulers, an old school Philly crew...I have it on this weird philly old school comp that's just fantastic, i posted a thread abt it on old ILM but didn't get much notice.

― just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

new Black Sheep? wtf

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

that black sheep single from last year ("whodat"? i forget the name) was terrific.

― rip torn vagina (sandboxhulkington), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

xxxpost

It's on late here (austin) but might check it out.

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

whatsup dudez-- i engineered & recorded this trk a while ago-- my partner Bee Dogg hollered the other day & i'm thinking of dropping joints 4 him when he gets out of jail (i didn't produce this track-- mine r generally more glossy and whatnot). he's on some 2008 midwest delivery usually righter than this but it was just dropped in like 10 minutes or whatever and way undertuned but i lost the masters and all-- herez Bee Dogg-AK's We Spray . . . r u digging this? the chorus drags on a little but the childrenz & som dudez in nyc were . . . lyrically i think he'z fucking pretty good

herez an alternate link if my http daemon is a failure: bee dogg - akz we spray (higher bitrate, not normalized tho)

― Ruis H.G. Ultruillum (HGULTRUISLIM), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

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