I'd be sort of sad if I had to start my annual year-end film detrius thread here.

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not yet. Will likely see TPV and THB in next 2 weeks.

enrique might want to glance at all 200 of these:

http://ballot.indiewire.com/ballots/scores#best_undist

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Rosenbaum's excuse for a Vin Diesel legal comedy tanking - HOLLYWOOD HATES LIBERALS.

milo (milo), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

He says the film has a "leftist slant," and you should know that is different from liberal by the way ILX libs shout "NADER 2008" at me all the time.

(ie libs are exulting that the Dems are now the party in Congress who will do nothing about Iraq)

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Regular Lovers only opening in NY or did it get a real distribution deal?

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh man, that J.R. Jones list...

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost

I can't seem to find out; also the NY opening has been bumped to Jan 19.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't give Rosenbaum enough credit to assume any subtle distinction between liberal and leftist on his part. (and it is Lumet)

milo (milo), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

but he also calls it Lumet's best film. Strange things can happen to those vet auteurs when they pass 80. I will see it and evaluate.

(also, a '50s lib is a radical in today's environment, just sayin)

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

also ppl tend not to use "leftist" at all if they don't make the distinction. Clinton-loving "liberals" are what JR is fingering I think.

The Good Shepherd does have its supporters (Cheshire, Armond):

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/002935.html

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

AN ALL-AMERICAN SACRIFICE
De Niro creates a patriotic masterpiece
By Armond White

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I am neither a leftist nor a liberal, because otherwise I couldn't look at J.R. Jones list and call him a retard and laugh with a clear conscience.

Also, the world should remain centrist or skewed to the right if it means Chris Marker will continue to make bemusedly outraged movies.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Did the Chicago Reader hire an editor or just sell a lot more ads lately, cause Rosenbaum's piece is approximately five percent as long as it usually is.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

You could be a lefty or lib of taste and still laugh.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

The website doesn't always put up the entirety of the current week's issue right away. When I go out to lunch, I'll pick up a copy to see if there's a longer thinkpiece attached to that top 10.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

(x-post) knock it off, you closet conservative

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, looks like that's all we get of Rosenbaum this year. I guess I have noticed a trend lately of wanting to play up the other critics for the paper -- not just JR Jones but the music and theatre critics, too. Rosenbaum used to have a front-page story all to himself for his year-end list, now it's called Critics' Picks 2006.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

does New Times own the Reader?

(btw, Eric, I like the first 80 minutes of All That Jazz)

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Nope, the Reader is one of the last independent alt-weeklies in the country.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Just saw The History Boys: a homo Dead Poets' Society, with Richard Griffiths reprising his obese lech from Withnail; he delivers a moving aria on Hardy's "Drummer Hodge". Not at all bad, although the boy everyone's lusting after looks like the drummer in Culture Club.

Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Rosenbaum's inept political fumblings have written him into a corner.

milo (milo), Saturday, 23 December 2006 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link

(btw, Eric, I like the first 80 minutes of All That Jazz)

That's great to hear, but I sort of think the last 10 are what pushes it into insane, embarrassing greatness.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 December 2006 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link

well, the first 10 is where I find the greatness.

Why is Nicholson taking a beating for "showboating" in The Departed when that's more diverting than Damon's vanilla corruption or everything embarrassing about the Vera Farmiga scenes? This William Monahan guy is great at the local color and alpha-swearing, characters not so much.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 December 2006 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Infernal Affairs wins on the script and the opaqueness of the characters' allegiances, but The Departed wins on nearly every other count.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 December 2006 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

uhhuh ola

cozeny (cozeny), Sunday, 24 December 2006 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Vera Farmina is fine; she does battiness better than Cate Blanchett used to. Those last two scenes however with her and Damon are unplayable. As usual I found myself wishing the director had dispensed with the facile moral dilemmas of his hero and concentrated on the peripheries (which, to his credit, Scorsese mostly does in this movie).

Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 December 2006 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I just noticed that the new Marker placed higher on indiewire's rundown of the year's best docs than the Al Gore movie. Him for presidetn!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 December 2006 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

But the new Marker is really 5 shorts, ja?

I don't have a problem w/ Farmiga (still haven't seen Down to the Bone), but the whole damn part is unplayable. The shrink in IF wasn't sleeping with both of them, was she? And if Marty fought for the ending, that includes the crowd-pleaser (relatively speaking) of offing Damon?

Think of this film with Wahlberg and Ryan Gosling in the leads. Not all the problems solved, but most.

The atrophying of DiCaprio's talents is one of the tragedies of the last decade in American film (or maybe he just wasn't versatile to begin with). One of the great teenage actors ever, but since turning 21 he's seemed lost in the school play save for Catch Me If You Can. Think of what young Kirk Douglas could do with a line like "The only thing more fulla shit than a cop is a cop on TV." When Leo says it you can hear the keys clacking.

Message to Mark Wahlberg in winning polls/awards for this rather than I Heart Huckabees: BE MORE ONE-NOTE. (After the splendid verbal soul-rape of Leo, it was push Repeat.)

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 December 2006 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I would be happy if Wahlberg and Alec Baldwin were cast as tag team cops for the duration of their careers.

Leo was never versatile. Even as a young actor his talent was for acting feral (...Gilbert Grape excepted), and he's gotten better at it at the cost of several yards of charisma. What does Scorsese see in him -- how my generation copped all its cockiness from watching De Niro's mirror scene in Taxi Driver without living first?

Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 December 2006 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

what Scorsese sees in him = $$$

(Alfred, is yr family sleeping late too?) Yes, Baldwin never better (not sure how much that's sayin).

Merry detrius Christmas

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 December 2006 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm waiting for them to have their coffee first before driving over. Since it's 83 degrees already you can understand my hesitation.

I'm debating whether to finish playing Miles' "He Loved Him Madly" or to watch Melinda Dillon doing her show-mommy-how-the-piggies-eat scene in A Christmas Story.

Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 December 2006 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

or Advise & Consent, an unexpected present from a friend. (Don Murray as convincingly gay as Charles Laughton was convincingly straight; still, my favorite Preminger after Anatomy of a Murder).

Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 December 2006 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

'the departed' is so much better than 'infernal affairs'. IA is good but pretty horribly directed, i don't know what was going on with the camera in that first wong/leung rooftop scene (which was completely copped from a similar scene also featuring leung in 'hard-boiled').

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

a lot of reviews comment on how monahan combined 2 characters to get the shrink, but he actually combined 3. leung ran into this old GF at an inexplicable moment and met her daughter, he said "it's been over six years, huh" and she introduced her daughter as five years old, and after he left the daughter said, "but mommy i'm 6!" because it was actually his kid, lol. which i think comes into play via 'the departed' when farmiga gets knocked up because it's probably leo's kid on account of damon's cock not actually working overtime.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Message to Mark Wahlberg in winning polls/awards for this rather than I Heart Huckabees

He did win the VV poll for I Hart Huckabees, tho.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 25 December 2006 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, I'll be damned; you remember detrius from year to year? Like Ted Baxter with the Tedi Awards?

'the departed' is so much better than 'infernal affairs'.

I presume you don't think DiCaprio and Damon flat-out suck, then?

IA's form fits its content, while Scorsese pouring 150 minutes of his operatic naturalism on a blatantly dreamworld plot, hinged on the depth of two actors who can only get deep through lightness (as in Catch Me If You Can and Stuck on You), inevitably leads to ludicrousness. The jarring rat joke at the end suggests that the whole thing should've been done as a black comedy a la (the truly great) Prizzi's Honor.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

they don't flat-out suck (damon as cocky boston sociopath frat bro type is perfect casting, dicaprio is really good especially when he's pistol-whipping damon) and i guess i'd rather have misplaced skillful naturalism and over appropriate shittiness/horrible sentiment/corny musical interludes (pre-emptive: i don't think sentiment is a dirty word). and it was at least half-black comedy, from my POV.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, half-black-comedy, which is why when folx say Jack is "in a different movie," yeah: it's the one I'd rather be watching. (Still IA wisely killed the boss halfway rather than at 3/4.)

The Dropkick Murphys count as a corny musical interlude.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

man, better the dropkick murphys than sappy cantopop. and i'm almost positive eric tsang lasted 'til the 3/4 mark.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

cocky boston sociopath frat bro type

they quote Freud to get laid?

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

National Film Registry additions 2006

1) Applause (1929)
2) The Big Trail (1930)
3) Blazing Saddles (1974)
4) The Curse of Quon Gwon (1916-17)
5) Daughter of Shanghai (1937)
6) Drums of Winter (1988)
7) Early Abstractions #1-5,7,10 (1939-56)
8) Fargo (1996)
9) Flesh and the Devil (1927)
10) Groundhog Day (1993)
11) Halloween (1978)
12) In the Street (1948/52)
13) The Last Command (1928)
14) Notorious (1946)
15) Red Dust (1932)
16) Reminiscences of a Journey to Lithuania (1971-72)
17) Rocky (1976)
18) Sex, Lies and Videotape (1989)
19) Siege (1940)
20) St. Louis Blues (1929)
21) The T.A.M.I. Show (1964)
22) Tess of the Storm Country (1914)
23) Think of Me First as a Person (1960-75)
24) A Time Out of War (1954)
25) Traffic in Souls (1913)

Does anyone have a running list of movies they've outrageously neglected to induct yet?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Anaconda (1997)

latebloomer (clonefeed), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Next year. It has to be 10 years old first.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

what's the purpose of it?

colin0Hara (colin_o_hara), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I really don't pay attention to the NFR. Has being named to it saved any films from extinction?

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.loc.gov/film/filmabou.html

I'm sure Fargo is relieved that it will no longer languish in obscurity and neglect.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

otoh, The T.A.M.I. Show needs to be made available.

Owen Gleiberman's #1: 007.

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1572278_1_0_,00.html

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

For what it's worth, some of the VVM dudes put out their top 10s last week:

Robert Wilonsky

http://www.houstonpress.com/Issues/2006-12-21/film/film.html

Jim Ridley

http://www.houstonpress.com/Issues/2006-12-21/film/film2.html

Outcast Lemon Mode (sandglocks), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Not even Ridley's recommendation can get me interested in Casino Royale.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Zancherek also put it in her top 10.

Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

As little as I miss most of the old Voice critics, can't say that Wilonsky is a real improvement.

milo (milo), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link


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