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Tim F (Tim F), Sunday, 24 December 2006 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link

worse than 50% of the reviews for Burial?

I'll raise you http://www.cokemachineglow.com/reviews/villalobos_achso2006.html if you want worst.

da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Sunday, 24 December 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I think dubstep needs to be heard with a stupidly big soundsystem behind it at least once before one makes a judgement on it.

this same claim has been made with a lot of minimal house/techno,
but everything sounds better thru quality systems anyway so it's a given, regardless of how subtle yet intricate the production is.

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 24 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Dubstep production is anything but subtle and intricate. Tends to lean more to the basic as fuck and totally blatant really! I think the percussive nature of the sub which really drives the rhythm in a lot of tunes needs to be heard to be understood. I suppose that's my point. But I can appreciate how prosaic it may be.

Though yeah, people talking about minimal as if it's all wimpy and stuff really makes no sense when you're having your lungs melted by the kick drum at 5am.

jim (jim), Sunday, 24 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure it is a given, some dubstep tracks I've played on stereos without lifesize bass, whole sections of the rhythms just vanish!

Wheras some minimal stuff seems qualitatively different at lower volumes, rather than just an impaired version of the same thing, more chilled and "interesting" (home listening good). Adding tons of volume and thump can actually be detrimental to that side of it.

da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Sunday, 24 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

One thing I'll say negatively for Dubstep is I do find it very hard to find sets I want to hear (at home) more than a couple of times each.

This Toastyboy track is lush btw! I'm not sure what's really out there atm (or upcoming) in the way of non-halfstep monsters? Some of the Dub Police/Caspa stuff I scanned a while back sounded a bit "different".

da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Sunday, 24 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I think dubstep needs to be heard with a stupidly big soundsystem behind it at least once before one makes a judgement on it.

this same claim has been made with a lot of minimal house/techno,

reminds me of that classic thread on old-ilm where dude was all "you're not allowed to have an opinion on AUTECHRE unless you've heard it at a rave over a 10k system with DECENT MIDRANGE RESPONSE"

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 24 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha!

I have seen autechre live and it was fucking awful! But I likes them on record.

jim (jim), Sunday, 24 December 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
are the allstars comps the best stuff available on cd right now? i have some vouchers and my local hmv has the skream album, is it worth asking them to order in allstars 4 (or another comp)? i really like what i've heard of various allstars comps and the skream album.

acrobat (acrobat), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the best avaialbe comp of dubstep.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Tis a very very good compilation that- brilliant sleevenotes/pete frame "Rock Family Trees" style diagram of how various artists fit together within the history of the scene... however its the least representative of the current sound, given that it is all early 2 step stuff basically. I would beware the Skream album a little, as it doesn't really work as AN ALBUM per se, and has widely been deemed a touch disappointing (ie- lots of watery digi-dub stuff...)
What would really be good would be a compilation focusing on the weirder beat structures emerging (mainly from Bristol and Mala...)

Alex Williams (Gekkopel), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

isn't that allstars vol 4

moonship journey to baja (vahid), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

No. Allstars Vol 4 is this.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

no, dummy, i meant compilation focusing on the weirder beat structures emerging (mainly from Bristol and Mala

moonship journey to baja (vahid), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

if I'd realised the sandbox was sticking around this would have got a better title :P

What would really be good would be a compilation focusing on the weirder beat structures emerging (mainly from Bristol and Mala)

upcoming Skull Disco comp. should be good (CD!) I wish I'd had the foresight to wait a bit longer...

da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

skull disco is depressing

moonship journey to baja (vahid), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I really like some of the Shackleton stuff. I hadn't heard about that comp so yeah!

Has anyone bought this.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the only people who do dubstep mixes that get repeat listens from me is Christine Vaccine.

Colin Howells (Brakhage), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

> Has anyone bought this.

that Tectonic Plates compilation is probably my favourite cd of last year.

Distance cd out shortly, which i am exicited about. MRK-1 out already.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 09:56 (seventeen years ago) link

the distance vs vexd 'there's always been a Metal element to our music' mix on MAH was worth a listen to too:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/maryannehobbs/

Vex’D Vs Distance mix:
Sunn 0))) – ‘Sin Nanna’ (Test)
John Richards ft Genia- ‘Suite No 2 for Piano & Electronics’ (Vex'd Remix) (Planet Mu test)
Khanate – ‘Release’ (Hydra Head)
Dillinger Escape Plan – ‘Phone Home’ (Relapse)
Vex'd – ‘Killing Floor’ (Planet Mu)
Distance – ‘Taipan’ (Boka)
Distance – ‘Ska’ (Planet Mu)
Isis – ‘From: Sinking, To: Drowing’ (Destructo Swarmbots) (Robotic Empire)
Distance – ‘Traffic’ (Planet Mu)
Vex'd – ‘Nails’ (Planet Mu)
Napalm Death – ‘Our Pain Is Their Power’ (Century Media)
Celtic Frost – ‘Human’ (Noise)
Godflesh – ‘Vein’ (White)
Sunn 0))) – ‘Cry For The Weeper’ (White)
Techno Animal ft Sonic Sum – ‘DC-10’ (Matador)
Isis – ‘Carry’ (Robotic Empire)
Cult Of Luna – ‘Arrival’ (Earache)
Durrty Goodz – ‘Fire Smasher’ (Dubplate)
Darqwan – ‘Ghost Not Memory’ (Planet Mu Dubplate)

and garage pressure have just updated their podcasts for the first time in a month - 8 hours of mixes for download.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 10:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanking Jesus that Distance didn't drop some freak on a leash.

jim (jim), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

worst music writing of 2006 top contender - kode9's top 10 list in "artforum"
-- vahid (vfoz...), December 24th, 2006.

I see the Matmos top 10 from the December ArtForum magazine on their website but not the Kode9 one. Hmmm.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link


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