― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Everyone who goes to great effort to wall mount a TV should hopefully be aware that they'll be replacing it within five years.
― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Massive Panasonic, Michael? How the other half live!
Look, brackets:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-3945335-0330023?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=Humax&Go.x=8&Go.y=14
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, the short lifespan of LCD and plasmas puts me off buying one, a bit. Are they getting better. I did notice that the pricier ones in John Lewis came with a 5 year manufacturers guarantee as standard.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link
But maybe if I got a huge TV it would stop being any more fun to watch than a normal one, after a while.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link
Plasma is a lot of overpriced bunkum at this point, isn't it?
― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link
it's definitely better to play pro evo on the projector screen than on the littler telly.
are LCD screens cheaper to run in terms of electricity too? than one of those normal CRT thingies?
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link
we have a 50" flat screen and I can assure you we are not dickweeds.
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
see, that's what i thought but then i saw this in the paper:
http://www.plasma-lcd-facts.co.uk/myths/energy-use/
"MythPlasma TVs use more power than their LCD rivals.
FactThe reality is that plasma TVs don’t necessarily use any more power than LCDs – a fact which makes perfect sense if you think about how each technology works."
so there you go. disclaimer, this was a panasonic advert and panasonic want to sell you plasma tvs. i would take this with a skipload of salt.
http://callforhelptv.com/callforhelp/shownotes/0283.shtml?regular
Samsung plasma:standby: 1 watt, 0.06 ampsblack screen: 65 watts, 0.58 ampswhite screen: 256 watts, 2.23 ampsred screen: 232 watts, 2.02 ampsblue screen: 231 watts, 2.13 ampsgreen screen: 208 watts, 1.80 ampsstatic: 311 watts, 2.71 amps
Samsung LCDstandby: 10 watts, 0.17 ampsblack screen: 200 watts, 2.55 ampswhite screen: 199, 2.58 ampsred screen: 199 watts, 2.57 ampsblue screen: 198 watts, 2.57 ampsgreen screen: 198 watts, 2.96 ampsstatic: 264 watts, 3.23 amps
seems to vary a lot with what is actually displayed. goths are probably better off with a plasma... (crt readings would be interesting)
(is that our sean carruthers btw?)
― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, don't LCDs have a really, really long lifespan? I'd think the only thing that'd be sure to die is the florescent backlight, and they have like a 60,000 hour life. If you're worried about a TV dying at 60,000 hours, you watch too much. Stray pixels might start to go bad, but that's not such a big deal either.
Plasmas don't have as long a lifespan, but they are a lot cheaper (and look better, in my opinion).
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link
lcd lifespans are really good, no?
xpost heh
― false cat (sleep), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
seriously? LCD tvs are the only tvs that have ever really floored me with how clear and sharp the picture is. plasmas dont look that remarkable to me.
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Plasmas aren't a lot cheaper (at non-gigantic sizes, anyway) are they? It's the other way around, I thought.
I seem to be wrong to lump LCD displays in with plasmas when it comes to lifespans. I was just going by what someone once told me, about CRTs lasting for blimmin ever these days (Tombot's experience notwithstanding).
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― The PEW Research Center for Panty-Twisting (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
by this do you mean, the cable company hasn't come out and run whatever kind of new cable it might need to run? I think that comcast here (in california) will just come and do this if they get an order, and they ren't going to charge you for it either, because they want everyone to switch over eventually anyway.
― akm (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link
I just bought the Panasonic 42" plasma Jams refers to, and it was about the same price (maybe a little cheaper) than comparable LCDs. I did crazy amounts of research beforehand, and the interesting comparison point was trying to find TVs which could reproduce (as close as possible) something called "D6500K" - supposedly the optimum prescribed color temperature used by the film and broadcast industry. The Pioneer plasmas rate best across the board, but they are also far more expensive. The Panasonics peformed best in the lower price range. LCDs do OK, but the problems with black levels limit them (although this is improving). I think games, etc will look better on a LCD (or any TV in a bright room), but if you primarily want to watch movies, Plasma is the way to go.
HD definitely looks much better than the CRTs I'm used to. And I got the 'upconverting' DVD player, which does seem to be better than running a traditional DVD player to it. Upconverting players are dropping under a hundred bucks anyway. Mind you, cables (especially the ideal HDMI or Component ones) are ridiculously overpriced.
I am going to wallmount it and hide the wires. It's far more practical for me to mount it, since then I don't need a TV stand taking up room underneath the screen, hence more room for my coffee table and space in the living room itself. All the DVD/Cable boxes and thingys will site in a recessed cabinet off to the side.
So... yeah, I'm a dickweed.
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
Halle Berry on an LCD tv:
http://www.celebopedia.com/berry/images/halle_berry.jpg
Halle Berry on a plasma TV:
http://www.student.city.ac.uk/~ra831/group8/images/Whoopi.jpg
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
I cannot believe people buy monster cables, for anything.
― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
I picked up a 28 inch cheap crt for peanuts, only problem was getting it down my narrow basement stairs, but i shold have realised that before.
― secondhandnews (secondhandnews), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link
fair point, i apologise. big tvs make me feel kind of irrationally annoyed
― ^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link
especially big "HD" tellys and big "LCD" tellys and all that so on and on
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― ^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― ^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link
and then there was csi miami where apparently ordinary cops fly to brazil on a whim carrying out personal vendettas to catch drug dealing terrorists.
i cant imagine what this stuff is actually like if you can see it properly.
one of them has now taken to going downstairs on a saturday afternoon, turning the tv on, and immediately going to sleep on the sofa. she even says, do you mind if i put the tv on to sleep
― ^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― ^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link
He wasn't naturally sadistic. He honestly thought(thinks) that a room without some background noise is too weird.
― PPlains (PPlains), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link
I shudder to think what the verb usage might involve.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link
-- TOMB07 (tombo...) (webmail), January 3rd, 2007 5:29 PM. (trm)
lolol YES
― aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link