CHICAGO: If Hepatitis C Were Attacking Your Face Instead of Your Liver You'd Be Doing Something About It

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post them, both of you, please.

thank you.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

FOR THE RECORD: I just checked my gmail and I had already emailed Jordan the bbq recipe months ago. Ha.


You can all peep my red hot wrist brace on Thursday at OLD Timerz.

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

BBQ posted to blog!

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

whatwhere blog?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you ever make the chili?

chilx blogspot com

easier to check than these infernally long threads

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

chili = no, i went to jewel on thanksgiving day (note to self, NEVER DO THAT AGAIN) and bought all the ingredients. then when i was opening a can of beans so i'd having something to put the grease from the ground beef in i realized i forgot to get the ground beef so i drank beer and watched football instead.

i still have everything though i'll need to buy more celery and an onion.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

rub all over the meat, like you like it:

i stopped reading after this.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, did you get your heater yesterday? I meant to ask you at the (awesome!) FFs show.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I forgot to wear deodorant today.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

no, something suddenly came up (props to greg brady).

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I forgot to wear deodorant today.

what's distressing to me is that my old spice segues so perfectly into my own musky funk that i can't tell when my deodorant has stopped working. i'll have to take a whiff and think "is that more b.o. or carrot cake? carrot cake? then it's old spice."

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i should go back to the fresh scent, then i'd know for sure.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: Deodorant stains on your shirt vs. Toothpaste stains on your shirt

danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

holy shit, mission of burma is playing the double door the night after my birthday! BUYIN' MYSELF A PRESENT!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

That Arrested Development set is up to over $50. This shit is like the stock market.

I want to make the bbq this weekend, I just need to get the purrk and the "apple cider vinegar".

xpost, oh and thanks, that reminds me that I ran out of deoderant this morning

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I use some all natural hippie shit that also blends into my own funk so it's hard to tell. I might be smelling the Free Terrible Coffee. Or I might be smelling myself exuding the smell of Free Terrible Coffee, Expensive Coffee of Variable Quality Depending on Where I Buy It, and Decent Coffee that I Make at Home, all of which I have been consuming in mass quantities lately.

Deodorant stains on your shirt: If you mean the white streaks that can happen if you don't employ the roll-and-duck method of putting on a shirt, you can usually wipe those off with a damp towel. Toothpaste stains can ruin my day, however.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

roll-and-duck?

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

roll up yr shirt duck yr head into it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

How about the white stains that come from sweating like a hog? I think those are permanent. I ruined so many good t-shirts before finally breaking down and starting to wear undershirts. :(

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't worn deodorant since....10th grade?

grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

HIPPIE

danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

j/k, wish I was fragrant enough to get away with that.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm on a strict all-lilac diet, when i sweat it smells like a fuckin' greenhouse in the spring.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin is correct! You roll up the bottom of the shirt so you're putting on a crop-top with sleeves. When you put it on, your armpits only touch the inside of the shirt. Then you duck your head in and carefully put your arms into the sleeves. It's not fool-proof, but it minimizes the damage.

I am in close proximity to too many people who would judge me for stinkin' to even attempt to stop wearing deodorant. I do pretty well with the all natural kind, unless it's super duper hot. Then I have to pull out the big guns, especially if I'm wearing a suit or man-made fiber shirt.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The deoderant/anti-perspirant thing is interesting. I don't mind smelling like myself and I use unscented Tom's stuff anyway, but there's no question of when the acrid BO has taken over, usually as a result of being cold or nervous or the constriction of tight sleeves. I don't understand how people could not tell...? Oh well, people in being different SHOCKAH.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

For the record, I use Dove deoderant.

Horseshoe, I suck for not remembering your name last night.

Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm... human-made fiber? unnatural fiber? faux-fiber? What's a good gender-neutral term for that?

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

it's not so much a matter of not telling, i can definitely tell when the old spice has given up the ghost, but determining when (if?) the old spice is at less than 50% effective is the trick.

then again, maybe i just smell so fucking good that i should foresake it all together and play basketball for 9 hours a day. i could rent myself out as an air freshener.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

This dumb article about Why Men Cheat annoys me. It also somehow makes me more sleepy.

Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah, not at all! my name is weird.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

While we're on the subject of personal hygiene, smells, and potential TMI-topics, here's an informal poll:

Courtesy flushing. Do you? Why or why not?

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

the fucking first sentence of that article pisses me off too much to read any more.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i've known way more women to cheat than dudes. bah, whatever, not worth it.

horeshoe, i am going to continue calling you horseshoe in public because i think it's an awesome nickname. let me know if it gets on your nerves.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

That article is high fuckin' comedy.

Think about what's on your iPod. You have your favorite songs you play over and over, but every once in a while, you're in the mood to hear something you haven't played in a long time. You don't need to hear it but once every month or so, but still, you appreciate the changeup.

Women are like iPods. I've never thought of it like that. What a refreshing perspective.

i've known way more women to cheat than dudes.

Yeah, I was gonna say. Well, not way more, but God, how old is this stereotype, anyway?

whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, that would be one of the least annoying nicknames I've ever had. fine by me!

can I admit I'm not sure how "courtesy" flushing is different than just flushing?

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

So, let's see...

Men cheat because they are biologically compelled to (whereas women are biologically compelled, to paraphrase Lisa Jervis, use their vaginas as fly paper in which to trap wedding rings); they are bored with their current sex lives (read: once women trap said men, they stop liking to fuck and so on some level deserve to be cheated on); they are too emotionally stunted to maturely end a relationship; or a clever iPod-analogy rehash of the biological compulsion.

Now, as a woman, I find a lot to object to in that article. My question to you mens is whether you find those so-called biological gender imperatives equally as oppressive? I mean, doesn't it piss you off to be told again and again that you're not much more than a giant, erect penis thrusting about, searching for a home? And that you're immature, to boot?

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"The Mysteries of the Sexes Explained" bothers me too much to read any more. WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH WOMEN, AMIRITE??

And yeah, I don't know what courtesy flushing is, either.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Courtesy flushing. Do you? Why or why not?

Yeah, sometimes. Depends on what I ate and how potentially deadly the aroma. Why do you ask?

whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

then again, maybe i just smell so fucking good that i should foresake it all together and play basketball for 9 hours a day. i could rent myself out as an air freshener.

Husk Musk!

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Jenny: Yes.

Also 2x/3x/whatever to more women cheating than men, both in my personal experience and with my platonic female friends.

http://www.poopreport.com/Techniques/Content/Courtesy/courtesy.html

danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

My question to you mens is whether you find those so-called biological gender imperatives equally as oppressive?

I don't really have a sense of indignance about my gender being oppressed, and I'm not about to grow one now.

whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, I still don't understand the courtesy flush. So you flush once, and then you flush again to indicate that your shit stinks? Seems like that's calling more attention to yourself than need be.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

No, you flush before you're all done wiping or whatever, just to clear the air as quickly as possible and not have your poop sitting in the bowl giving off molecules for any longer than is necessary.

whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Courtesy flushing, as I understand it, is when you flush to try and cover up the noises you make while you're poopin' and fartin'. I ask because I just used the bathroom next to a courtesy flusher and I always thought it was kind of pointless. I know why you're in there! There's no need to waste water trying to act like you're not pooping!

Kenan, I guess I'm getting at the whole, "Feminism is good for men, too, because it frees us all from gender stereotypes" conclusion, via internet Socratic method.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of smelling, I just learned that some bees can collect a flower's perfume and store it in their legs to attract lady bees. The lady bees have a keen sense of smell and pick their mates largely based on the strength and diversity of scents belonging to the male bee.

As for the article, I just love how it ends with the implication that a woman better be sure to keep changing things up in the bedroom if she doesn't want her man out looking for new tunes.

Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. Doesn't seem like it's worth it. I mean, how long does it take you to wipe? Also, the bathroom at work doesn't get all that much traffic: there are two stalls, and it's maybe only 5% of the time that I go in there and one is already occupied.

My question to you mens is whether you find those so-called biological gender imperatives equally as oppressive?

I just hate any generalizations about gender*, especially ones that treat men and women like we're two alien species, impossible to understand without the help of a translator.

*except the ones about women liking chocolate and being cold all the time

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

The courtesy flush: gallant or futile?

to try and cover up the noises you make while you're poopin' and fartin'

I've never thought of that potential application. Well, if you're just embarrassed to be poopin, there's no help for you. I always thought of it as trying to clean up, in a kinda sorta way.

whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, i just thought it was to keep from clogging the toilet

I mean, doesn't it piss you off to be told again and again that you're not much more than a giant, erect penis thrusting about, searching for a home? And that you're immature, to boot?

it doesn't piss me off, really, but it is a bit irritating, more out here than any other place i've lived. the men of montana are, shockingly, huge pigs.

grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

if she doesn't want her man out looking for new tunes

This is just so funny to me. I mean, I guess there are guys like that, who have women all over town or whatever. Playas, as the kids say.

"Allison is so rock and roll, but Cathy is more emo."

whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'd marry her if she weren't so noise."

whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link


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