the sandbox guide to tipping demographics

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as this is bumped anyway, tipping question from a former big american tipper who is a bit clueless now that i live in the US.

valet parking came with my hotel room package (in chicago)...how much do i tip the dude that brings me my car tomorrow morning? and do i give it to him or the front desk (logic is that someone else parked it and they should share, or something?

colette (colette), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link

A buck or two to the person who hands you the keys would be acceptable. And yes, it's all shared, so you're not just tipping him, but tipping everyone who participated in the parking and unparking of your car.

PPlains (PPlains), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Should I leave a cash tip for the cat sitters? I already paid the service but I want them to take extra good of my cats!!!

If it was me, I would. I always tip more when I expect to use a service again, and would like people to think kindly of me. I realise this is a capitalist crime: using my money to get superior service, but I don't care. I tip my hairdresser well because she cuts only my hair when she is dealing with me, she doesn't flit off to talk to other clients, she doesn't stand around chatting to other hairdressers, and she gets a great cut done quickly. That earns you a big tip in my book.

One of the nice things about working in a charity shop was that people kind of gave you tips, by putting money in the collection tin on the counter. So even though the charity got the money, we all got to feel like it was our good service that was getting that little bit extra for them.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 22 December 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Newspaper delivery people who hand out envelopes in anticipation of a holiday tip really, really get on my nerves. Am I the only one? I am a good tipper for other services.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 22 December 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i love that biz markie's tip for waiters is "don't drink and drive"

obi strip (sanskrit), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, we just had a new refrigerator delivered and thanks to ILE's consciousness-raising, I tipped the two guys $10 each.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

at least two bucks for the valet but no more than three unless they did something extra (kept your expensive car close by, etc)

jergins (jergins), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

as this is bumped anyway, tipping question from a former big american tipper who is a bit clueless now that i live in the US.

Did I miss something? Have you moved back? Or do you mean now that you live in the UK?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The girl who used to cut my hair charges $20 for a straight haircut. I always tip her 7-10 dollars depending on how pleased I am with her work. The last time I went to her I gave her $40, expecting to break the other 20 for change, so I could tip her. She took the $40 and said "thanks."

marcos (mucho), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha SCAM.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I always specify when I give someone an extra bill like that that I want change back from it.

I did recently get completely gamed by a pizza deliveryman who seemed to refuse to understand that I wanted change from him (he did a very amusing "I no longer understand English" thing at which I point I just shrugged and let him keep it haha.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

this is going to sound ridiculous but I used to go to old school Italian barbers or a friend of friend who gave good styled $25 cuts. i've stopped playing russian roulette and now go to this quasi-salon which is not very pretentious at all, but I have to pay the cashier woman rather than the hair cutter person directly. considering that the tip is now significantly more, how do I know that the cashier isn't pocketing it or that the salon isn't keeping it? it seems gauche to slip it to the hair cutter directly, but i want her to know when she does a great job.

obi strip (sanskrit), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a dream last night that I was in some bar/restaurant in the U.S. talking to Tony Montana (!?) about guns (!?) and then when I went to pay (with a card) I couldn't work out where to add in the tip (this happens in real life too) I asked the girl at the bar and then TM got really pissed off with me.

sgh (sgh), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Mike, you can fold the tip bill into quarters and slip it to your stylist directly, hand to hand so it's kind of covered? This is maybe unnecessarily secretive but I too find the public exchange of cash kind of...oogy, so I compromise. Usually just walk up quietly, say "thanks again" or something like that, and sliiiiiide it over.

If, tho, I'm tipping a beautician who has her hands busy with other customer (pedicure, etc) if I'm acquainted w/ someone from previous visits I put bill into apron pocket directly.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Mike, you can fold the tip bill into quarters and slip it to your stylist directly, hand to hand so it's kind of covered

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST DO NOT DO THIS. It pissed me off every time someone did it - this is not The Sands circa 1962, you are not Dean Martin. Doubly bad when it's a lousy tip.

milo (milo), Friday, 29 December 2006 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

What do you think one should do instead? Apart from stand in the middle of the salon and say, loudly, "HEY MISTY, I GOT YER TEN BUCKS OVER HERE WHEN YOU'RE DONE."

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think a woman can do this to/for another woman but might understand why a man might feel emasculated either doing it or being the recipient.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

this is not The Sands circa 1962

no, it's a salon, present-day where that's the usual way you tip someone

or you can put the tip in the little envelope and give it to the person behind the desk. i don't see why you wouldn't trust them - how many times are they going to get away with 'no, s/he didn't leave a tip' when the stylist person comes asking?

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

wow. i thought i was a decent tipper but it turns out that except at restaurants, i am not. (i've quit going to a salon to get my hair cut anyway though. my roommate will do it over the bathroom sink for free,or a drink, and it comes out better than last time i got it done professionally. grrr.)

Maria e (Maria), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Leave tip at station when you get up to go back to the front. Discreet and safe (from sticky fingers). If I didn't have change beforehand I guess I'd walk it back to the station.

But the only time I got cuts in a gen-u-ine salon I was dating a stylist and the tip was dinner.

milo (milo), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:16 (seventeen years ago) link

In London your stylist/whatever always walks up with you to the till. Out of that tip they tend to give £1-2 to the 'junior' who washes your hair beforehand and sweeps up.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

this doesn't happen in the US, does it? i always tip them separately

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno - that would be like also tipping the dish-busser after a restaurant meal, when it's the waitron's call on slipping the busser $10 or whatevs at the end of a shift. According to my sis, the waitron.

Tonight went to happy hour with friend and we tipped as if full price on happy hour drinks and snacks. Server got $8 on $28 check.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i take my cue in this regard from my friend who got her hair cut by frederick fekkai, so maybe it doesn't apply to my $30 neighborhood place

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, it's true. black people are the worst tippers.

Clearly you don't have much experience waiting on the French, Dutch, German or Brits. Oh and Canadians! They are the ones that'll sneak up on you: no strong accent--except the French-Canadians--and then at the end of the meal--BLAM! You get a credit card with the dreaded maple leaf.

I will always give each group of people consistent service because while I might suspect that a German or Black person might tip me poorly, I would only be guaranteeing that by favoring others who fit the good-tipping demographic.

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

At the salon where I get my hair cut, I pay with a credit card, and the person at the desk up front asks me, "Would you like to leave a tip?" And I say, "Yes." And he says, "How much?"

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, once when I worked in a small hotel, a couple who had been staying all week had noticed that I had waited, cleaned their rooms, served behind the bar, covered reception etc. The wife collared me in the TOILETS (!) to slip me a £20 tip which I was not to share with anyone on the grounds that I seemed to be single-handedly running the place.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

What do you guys think the undertipped ratio is as regards in-house service vs delivery in the food service industry? I'm not sure why, but my gut tells me in-house are usually more often undertipped than delivery people.

Not true at all! I delivered pizza for one of the big US chains when I was in college, and found that rather than a percentage, people tend to tip a specific dollar amount. Say the order was $20, you'd most likely get $2 from it. A lot of people don't tip at all, specifically Born-Again Christians (though I now have a good collection of Chick tracts), poor whites, poor blacks, realtors, and office managers (when delivering to offices). It's different being alone with someone on their turf—they can be as rude as they'd like and there's no societal pressure on them to make themselves look good. You guys in restaurants had it easy. Five dollar tips were considered good. We would also have to pay for our own gas and car maintenance. For each delivery we took, we got $.50 for gas, which in many cases wouldn't cover the distance there and back. To make up for this , we'd try to take more than one delivery at a time, if they're both going in the same direction and ordered at the same time. Oh, and if the cook fucks up, I have to make a second delivery FOR FREE (though if you're charming, you can turn a second-trip into a $5 tip). On a typical Saturday night, I'd make ~$75 for about 30 deliveries, putting about 105 miles on my car (but it's stop-and-go driving, so I was getting the low end of my Camry's fuel economy) so minus $12 for gas. And people ordered more and tipped less in bad weather. Fight nights and Bowl games were good, though.

While my single best tip ($50 for a $12 order) came from an older black lady who lived in a rough apartment complex), the best tippers tended to be single working mothers, liberals, fat people, and former servers/drivers. Drunk/stoned people were a mixed bag. I quickly learned the bartender trick: never carry coins or any bill larger than a one (if the bill is $15, and they hand you a twenty, you're more likely to see something back if you don't give them a $5).

Also, and I've mentioned this on a previous Mickey-complaining-about-tips thread, as a delivery driver I have had my car run off the road and into a guardrail, I have been mugged at gunpoint ($65 worth of tips gone), bitten by dogs, and threatened by more people who meant it than you could imagine.

naus (naus), Saturday, 30 December 2006 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link

to the tables who gave me really bad tips tonight after i gave them really bad service: i'm sorry. we were really understaffed tonight and i had way more work to do than i could possibly handle. i didn't mean to give you poor tips. thanks for complaining to the manager about me. it's nice to get feedback. no hard feelings, okay?

hm (modestmickey), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

urgent tipping question: some guys are coming in an hour to clean and fix the gutters on our roof. $260 for the job. should we tip and if so how much??

― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:51 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

count the leaves at the end give them a dollar for every gold leaf and take one away for every silver leaf and if the difference is more than fifty send them hang-gliding

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

a++

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link

aye, it's good hang-gliding weather this time of year, it's true

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Good joke, that

three day temp bar (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 1 February 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

tipper rarely

t. silaviver, Friday, 1 February 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

Bring nationalism into it, that'll surely help

three day temp bar (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 1 February 2013 09:28 (eleven years ago) link

xp you went a long way for that one

lxy, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link


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