Watercooler Sub Zero: Ice Capades

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Major Stars are awesome!!! I have all their albums and tried to get kate and mitya into them.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

The 120 Days album starts off good, but then just degenerates into NME/Carling rock I can do without. What a disappointment. I might just fast forward to their 11 minute "kraut epic".

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

One time, I arrived to set up at our gig, (back in the day/night) and saw our band name listed on a 'tonite' type adposter, and said "Oh, we have a support band tonight?"

"No" came the answer "I told them on the phone what kind of music we play."

So, there was no support band called "Scar"

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Urgh. That took me a while to figure out.

(My sisX0r used to be in a band called The Scars. They did not play "Scar", though.)

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, singer dude has turned into Richard Ashecroft in a totally ANNOYING way. I wish he'd just shut up and let me listen to the wibbling noises.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, did I stumble onto the ATP thread by mistake or something?

No, you stumbled onto a conversation involving bad jokes. Which happened to be told at ATP. I don't see why it's so different from any other random bollocks talked on this thread.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yo, chillax! I thought I made a genuine mistake! I've been following both threads.

We just got the most *amazing* chocolates handed round at work.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

amazing chocs only materialise here when someone goes on holiday or to a conference. Then by convention an email with "Chocolates from (insert name of place here) by my desk - help yourselves![EOM]" in the subject line is sent out. Everyone always thinks I've been to a conference when i've come back from holiday as a result of my Eastern European fixation.

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

These were Xmas chocolates for the FD. I should have looked more closely at who they were made by, as they were all posh, in a gold box (don't think they were Godiva, though) but they've been hidden now.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I need this picture visible again

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/687/1165465941349pu9.png

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Kate, if you were reading both threads, how did you think reading about ATP was weird unless you knew which thread you were on and weren't expected it? It genuinely looked like a "oh my God, you're talking about non-Watercooler-sanctioned stuff! Heretics!" kind of comment to me. Sorry 'bout that.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT, JABBA THE HUT?!?!?

It did make me laugh, though.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Hurry Up Picture!

(boy, it's slow!)

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a sea lion

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, this is weird. I'm actually procrastinating replying to this email. Not because I've not got anything to say (maybe I've got *too much* to say) but because it feels very weird.

This is not a situation I find myself in very often. I kinda have this dichotomy - that there are hott boys to be admired and lusted after (usually from afar) but never actually interacted with particularly seriously. And then there are my friends, with whom I can have the interesting conversations and the mental alignment and actual share thoughts and maybe even emotions.

And I'm feeling a bit weird about these boundaries being crossed. Because that way badness lies.

...and suddenly, completely by accident, in trying to get into a semi-flirting, pigtail pulling mock argument, I'm finding someone actually challenging my ideas and expanding my intellectual horizons and talking about things I find really interesting in a way that... well, that I've been trying to get from, but *not* got from, for example, my bandmate/supposed collaboraters in years.

And a bit of me is saying "you're not supposed to *do* that, you're just a bit of trouser to be objectified". And the other half is saying "run away, run away!" When what I really want to be doing is saying "hey! come back here! Did you really just say what I think you said? Do you believe that? Justify/explain yourself and we'll debate whether you're right or wrong - or if right and wrong are concepts that even belong in this argument!"

Argh. Why am I such a stupid mess?

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, I'll just post pictures of sea lion pups or something:

http://www.forestandbird.org.nz/Marine/sealions/_sealionpups.jpg

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

worth continuing discussions then, he may fall into either one of the other two categories.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

What "other" two categories?

There's only two categories.

He just made me cry with a single line from a song because it's something *I* once wrote, from the other side.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps you'll discover a third category of "attractive men that you can have a conversation with".

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

surely he could be turned from pointy nosed poster boy to friend/collaborator or something more?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely you are capable of talking to attractive men already? I've seen some of the London ILXors!

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"Piece of trouser to be objectified" is good. I've always wanted to be one of those. Maybe I have been?

Dr.C (Dr.C), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost, kate appears to be able to talk to me on a fairly regular basis, alisa, what you saying about me? (I know, I know I am a girl)

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Kate who has the "on one hand there are hott boys and on the other hand there are my friends" dichotomy!

(I was pointing out that some of Kate's friends clearly fall between the two categories, though it also occurs to me that that's because they aren't being objectified when they become friends, but presumably the transition was made at some point)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I can talk to attractive men if I don't think of them as sexual objects. Actually, you can take the "attractive" out of that sentence and it would be the same.

I'm fine with men if they're Out Of Bounds for whatever reason - usually through being in a relationship with someone else, through being totally unsuitable for reasons of age or other. Or when I'm just not attracted to them.

It's when it's that strange quasi-land of "available, just not available to me" that it becomes painful.

When you're totally objectifying a bloke to the point where they are just floppy hair and pointy nose, that's keeping them at an emotional distance. No big deal if it doesn't happen and you don't get to touch them, because you don't want anything more than to look. It's when that velvet curtain gets pulled back, and you see a glimpse, not of well-turned heel, but of... brain, soul, heart, essence - and you suddenly think "hang on, actually I want to touch *that*!"

Then it's just too painful.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Since you weren't impressed with 120 Days after all Kate, how about Psychic Ills -Dins?

pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't even finished listening to 120 Days yet! (OK, I've taken breaks to listen to Gooblar's demo a couple of times, and then listen to the songs PBW sent me) The last 120 Days song, the 11 minute epic, is pretty good - except I wish the singer would STFU.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/123/321532565_9997f0b41c.jpg?v=0

Ed (dali), Thursday, 14 December 2006 07:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Morning! I won something last night!

Oh, and I found that someone has banned my blog! Notoriety!!!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 December 2006 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Morning all. I tried on my dinner suit on again last night, it looks immense. I've got the bow tie down pat - I look the daddy! Off for fun and frolics tonight!

FP, banned blog is always gonna be the outcome when you bang on about a spermcube.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link

One brief mention, that was all

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 December 2006 09:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It only takes one mention for an over-eager blocker to prick it's ears up.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link

ohhh you said prick!

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 14 December 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Dagnamit, now the pointy-nosed boys will no longer be on monitors across the land.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of pointy-nosed Objects of desire, here's JN looking upwards at me doing something heroic:
http://www.fromamouth.com/milkymoon/pics/lisapredko04.jpg

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 09:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Should I put a JN album on my Christmas list? I am trying to decide.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:11 (seventeen years ago) link

argh nearly 2hr journey into work on public transport. pwn3d by south tyneside passenger transport authority etc.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:14 (seventeen years ago) link

haven't they got a ridiculous brand consulted name nowadays?

Also less long haired elvish, more short haired bohemians.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Nexus, Ed. Very original, eh?

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello all.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't quite got round to hearing the album yet, but the odd track that i've downloaded/been sent has been pleasent enough, like Regina Spektor with the Katie Melua taken out. (xpost to FP, clearly)

We need a kate/emsk to provide both Ed and myself with a supply of pretty pictures to look at. They're both good barometers of our tastes!

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

They call it the Japanese Mercedes.

xxpost

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

That does sound like something R. Spektor would benefit from, to be honest.

(xpost)

I bumped into my ex last night. She said: "oh, I'm doing catwalk modelling for [a bespoke fetishwear company] in January and they don't have any male models - you should get in touch with them!"

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you?

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

You'd be crazy not to, FP. You might get paid cash, or paid in kind, perhaps?

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Thursday, 14 December 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

cruel to be kind?

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 14 December 2006 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I meant FP might get to keep some of the gear, eh.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Thursday, 14 December 2006 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Given the cottage-industry nature of most fet suppliers, I'd be surprised if payment was offered. But it's good to make contacts. I wanted to get in touch with them anyway because I want to buy stuff from them - kit not clothes though.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 December 2006 11:12 (seventeen years ago) link

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!

I am going to copy and paste a memo which has been sent round the office this morning for your amusement:

Good Morning All,

As some you may be aware there have recently been a few people fall ill with tummy bugs, all within the space of 24-48 hours of each other. Whilst this is very likely to be a bizarre coincidence, in the interest of your safety, we are taking the following two precautions.

I have ordered replacement filters for the Water coolers (which were not due to be replaced until February). Bottled water will be available from later on this morning until the filters have been checked/replaced.

I have instructed a test of the Air-conditioning and a thorough clean of the filters to ensure there are no germs being circulated.

Many thanks

Company Office Manager

DAMN WATERCOOLERS MAKING US SICK!!!!

I'm drinking tap water today which is bleecchhhh

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 14 December 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Your search - short haired bohemian - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:
Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.
Try fewer keywords.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 14 December 2006 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Has that started happening to you? Cool! I like it when that happens.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep. It opens up a whole new can of worms (oh noes! all these dates/obligations to keep straight in my head!), but that's a whole lot better than the old can, which essentially amounted to: "Please, please, please, let us play!"

g000blar (g00blar), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It gets easier - well, actually I'm not sure. We got overwhelmed and ended up booking too many gigs too close together which made us miserable and nearly broke up the band (before we did actually break up).

But once you've got a certain reputation and a certain track record, it's nice when people start approaching you because you realise that in some ways, you've proved yourself.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Shyness is nice, and shyness can stop you, from doing all the things in life you'd like to.

Thanks, Emsk, I've got the Smiths stuck in my head now.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This months Plan B has a live review of someone called Ebony Bones from LSE Quad, London.
And it has the following :
Shimura Curves have already swished and swooshed their pretty velvet-edged electro pop , perverting skinny boys to perform hand-jives and hip rotations across their decorous stage.

Gooblar?

pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF? Who wrote that? How can there be a Plan B journalist who has NOT been in Shimura Curves?!??! Who is it?!? Find them! Recruit them! We need a sousaphone player!

(Is there more? I'll be jealous if the review is more about Gooblar than about US)

Ebony Bones are very good. Have we seen them again?

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

- boo! -

* poof *

substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Mitya!!!

Come back!

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/110/314157182_f15ddb5447.jpg

Aaaah, good times. We should do that again. Except I'm not talking to Jim or Jim isn't talking to me, I can't remember which way around it is every time I think I remember it changes if I talk to him, he snubs me, or if he talks to me, I think he's not talking to me so I snub him. It's all too confusing.

I have ONE THING I have to do before I leave and I just cannot bring myself to do it. THis is so stupid. I'm just transfixed by ILX carcrash action.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

We should go and see them again, they are playing at the 333 on friday or saturday, but I am in sheffield.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

They play too damn much! They play, like, every single night. So there is never a point to going to see them, because you could always see them on a different night. If they would play once a month of something, I would make more of an effort to actually see them.

They are too hardworking for indie.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

there is never a point to going to see them, because you could always see them on a different night.

OTM. I am always thinking I should go see 'em again, but yeah, why this time?

I didn't need to be "perverted" into "performing" my hand-jives and hip-rotations!

g000blar (g00blar), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Come round whenever (although give me a chance to tidy up a little)

ok, i am waiting for spanish trapezist's stuff to be done in washing machine then after i've taken it out i will leave the house.

emsk ( emsk ), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I am leaving in t minus two minutes.

I have just realised that I cannot do this ONE THING that I have been needing to do before I go, as the critical bit - what DATE it should be filtered on - has been omitted from my brief.

Ah, t minus one minute now.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Tomorrow I swear to god I am not going to muck about on ILX at all, and I am going to work like a dog all day long, I swear to god I am.

masonic boom (kate), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah that was all that was mentioned. It was just a live review of Ebony Bones by Hannah Gregory.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh the opening was
Tonight is dance night. Dance as in 'Agadoo' routines, Macarena wrist shakes and can-can knees.
Shimura Curves have already swished and swooshed their pretty velvet-edged electro pop , perverting skinny boys to perform hand-jives and hip rotations across their decorous stage.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoops, I missed all the "HI DERE NED" comments from yesterday. Hello again all! Three weeks from now I'll be posting on this thread from Andrew's flat going "Wait, I'm in London."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

HI DERE NED

wait, it's 2.30am

emsk ( emsk ), Thursday, 15 February 2007 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

HI DERE NED!!!

Wait, I'm in the office.

I feel very fuzzy this morning. Ed and Emsk got me drunk and tried to demonstrate this "comedy" thing that they have here in the icen forests of Clerkenwell.

I liked Bill Bailey's fake prog song, that was hilarious. And I think I might have to fall into the Mighty Boosh Crush Fold. Apocalyptic grannies and fake Funkadelic wandering the desert in "it's not a dress, they're the robes of a psychedelic monk!" gear. I like.

Now I am going to have some coffee. Or some lemsip. Or maybe both. I'm not sure in which order.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

URRGH

Ed (dali), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

It's your own fault, you bad mang.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I just watched the clip of Joss Stone on the brits last night, WTF at her fake accent?

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I've only seen pictures in other people's papers this morning. She scares me. I would probably wear her dress as a shirt, tho.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

It is a lovely pattern. But that is not a dress. It is barely even a shirt.

What is wrong with the eyebrows of the bloke next to her?

x-post now THAT is an outfit. I used to dress like that in 1991 or so.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Ohmigod, what a great shirt:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/mightyboosh/images/wallpaper/640/boosh3.jpg

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I just wanted to say thanks to various watercooler folks who offered advice and supportive thoughts at the end of last week. I have emailed various folks but also wanted to thank Norman, emsk, G00blar, Ed and JB. I hope I haven't forgotten anyone.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry for awful awful bad form, but I'm sorry, I wasn't around at the end of last week. Is everything OK? I mean, obviously not if supportive thoughts are needed.

Please pardon my ignorance. I'll email if it's private.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, it doesn't look like we're leaving this place any time soon:

UK Watercooler Whatever: Searching For The New Sound

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link


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