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I still disagree with this, largely because the singer in pop music is playing a role just as much as the singer in opera is regardless of the autobigraphical content of the pop singer's material, but that's definitely a more defensible statement of your point.

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, this isn't the first Dreamgirls thread that's basically abandoned talking about the film.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

all this agita reminds me of the CRASH thread of last year - guess that bodes well for Dreamgirls' oscar chances

― bill sackter (bill sackter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

AAAAAAAHHHHHH II-AHHHHHHHHHHHH
WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOUUUUUUU-OOH-OOOOH-OH-AOUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
ALWAYS LOVE
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"Emotion" or "showing off"? Only her doctor knows for sure.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link

so is this movie at least edited less frantically than Chicago? cuz I couldn't sit through shit like that again.

Sonofagun, Sparkle IS out on disc this week. I'll watch that.

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_4932129

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I never saw Chicago, but I think Dreamgirls is edited perfectly.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, Is there a cut every 1.5 seconds?

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

no. I don't really think it could be characterized as frenetic.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

There are some gratuitous spinning shots during some of the performances and I missed the "One Night Only (Disco)" section due to an urgent bathroom break so I don't know what happened there. None of what I saw struck me as haphazard or even moderately difficult to follow.

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"One Night Only (Disco)": the dancing is sort of frenetic, but understandably so. the editing is not.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

how long is it?

arrgh, there is no way I'm going to get the boy to go see this with me. I tried to convince him eddie murphy was worth it but no go.

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

two-and-a-half-hours-ish.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

it's way better directed than chicago.

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Moulin Rouge that's cut frenetically, not Chicago. (I ended up coming around on Rouge, eventually. I think it's the only generally good movie musical of the '00s.)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

CRAZY TALK! I could shit a better movie than Moulin Rouge. but yeah, I was picturing Moulin Rouge as the point of comparison when considering whether or not Dreamgirls was cut frenetically.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's the only generally good movie musical of the '00s.

I admit I haven't seen Not on the Lips, yet.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

When did Hedwig come out?

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

IM A DRAMGIRL

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

ew Hedwig was terrible.

best 90s musical = Velvet Goldmine!

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

the best musical of the '90s was 'south park: bigger, longer, and uncut'

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I was gonna say!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh. goddamnit gear, the "ugh" is not for you :(

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"Though you die, LA RESISTANCE LIVES ONNNNNNNNN..."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe I actually sat through Velvet Goldmine. I was trying to keep mum on this thread but that, sir, was a step too far.

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm yeah, the South Park musical is probably the best thing Stone/Parker have ever done

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost!

Ally doesnt agree with me shockah

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Frenetic isn't the word for Moulin Rouge!'s cutting; pathological perhaps.

Velvet Goldmine's big advantage was that (non-Bowie) glam music wasn't that good to begin with, so the pastiches met the standard.

How does Eddie Murphy's perf score as an audition for Spike Lee's announced James Brown film? He's too old to play him in his 20s but that may not stop it.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i loved both Hedwig and the SP movie. I spoiled the latter by getting the soundtrack at the college radio station earlier in the week, and listening to it over and over and playing half of it on my show right before the premiere.

I remember sitting in the theater thinking, "wait, you guys need to not laugh so loud during the songs, you're missing half the jokes!"

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(x-post) Pretty good, actually.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Moulin Rouge is basically an unwatchable movie for many, many reasons, the pathological cutting being only one of them.

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still a little bitter that my sister didn't let me walk out of Moulin Rouge.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha when someone put on the DVD of it, I figured I'd give it another go. The DVD punked out during the death scene and I was never happier to see a DVD punk out.

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Moulin Rouge is basically an unwatchable movie for many, many reasons

I could not agree more.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

C'mon, it's not literally unwatchable because you really can't anticipate what will come flying into the kitchen sink next. (Besides someone else who can't sing.)

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Moulin Rouge is not boring. Chicago and Dreamgirls, for the most part, are.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, getting your eyes gouged out isn't boring either, presumably.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like to see a musical of 'hostel', speaking of that.

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, stimulation isn't everything, so Everyone Says I Love You tops MR!

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like to see a musical of 'hostel', speaking of that.

I agree.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

stimulation isn't everything

Shouldn't musicals be expected to be somewhat sensualist, tho?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose, but echo eye-gouging comment.

did you like the songs in Phantom of the Paradise, btw?

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The first one to say Grease gets his eyes gouged.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

What are you saving for Grease 2?

I just got an email ad for the Evil Dead off-B'way musical which leads with a granny testifying how delightful it was to get spattered with stage blood.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

did you like the songs in Phantom of the Paradise, btw?

Yes.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe I actually sat through Velvet Goldmine. I was trying to keep mum on this thread but that, sir, was a step too far.

I thought it was for slash fiction fanatics only.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

haha I liked pretty much everything in Phantom of the Paradise BUT the songs

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

(which is weird considering Paul Williams' otherwise decent songwriting track record)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was for slash fiction fanatics only.

Frightening thought.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, none of those androgyne stars did any actual manfucking.

"Movie musicals" really don't have anything but a noveltylike place in the culture anymore, whereas they (and Broadway) used to be the dominant source of pop music. So you get neither fish-nor-fowl contraptions like the recent wave of music-video approaches to '70s/'80s material, trying to be hip and retro.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

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