This is the thread for the Fox News "Daily Show for conservatives" thing

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Painful.

ned trifle XIV (ned trifle XIV), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Was that on public access or something? wtf

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the main problems with this concept is that conservative shows have been using actual Colbert-style tactics for years and years, which is part of where the satire shows got their ideas in the first place -- finding bumbling, comical extremists and setting them up for pseudo-serious interviews is a pretty classic conservative sensationalist move. (It's not so long ago that when O'Reilly was tackling, say, a black issue, he'd welcome some normal Republican congressperson and then be all like "to see how the mainstream black community feels about this, we turn to Rasheed-Ali 'Pookie' Akbar of the Greater Baltimore Kill Whitie Liberation Front.")

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The GBKWLF is a pretty respectble organization.

max (maxreax), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"There are too many traitorous Freepers who watch 'the daily show' and 'colbert report' and then falsely state they attacks liberals, too."

You know, it's funny you say that because I will not watch those shows. Not because I probably wouldn't find parts of the shows funny but because I know what they think about conservatives even when they are poking fun at liberals. They hold us in disdain and I can't get passed that.
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jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently they don't have any right wing graphic designers either?

jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

is april winchell related to walter winchell?

and what (ooo), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm more interested to see if Colbert will acknowledge them as being "legit" or not than in the actual content.

jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

it would be funny if he treated them as a parody of conservative news shows

and what (ooo), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

is april winchell related to walter winchell?

I am pretty sure he is her father.

The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Nevermind, I am smoking crack today. I meant Paul Winchell.

The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost, otm!!!!!!!!

jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, one of the featured performers (Susan Yeagley) is Kevin Nealon's wife.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently they don't have any right wing graphic designers either?

uh... no. these do not exist.

http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1914

there to preserve disorder (kenan), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

everybody knows that walter winchell's son is matt drudge. he must be, why else would he always wear that hat?

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, one of the featured performers (Susan Yeagley) is Kevin Nealon's wife.

this is not in the least bit surprising to me

nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this somehow related to "The Half Hour Comedy Hour" from the 80s? Is the "My name is Ramon" guy hosting, with his big-ass pompadour?

Erik (EZSnappin), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Nope. The original title was "This Just In", but they changed it.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

this is not in the least bit surprising to me

Really? I guess I'd have assumed that Nealon was a liberal, but that's mostly based on the fact that he's vegan.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

he's definitely tall. i was 6 feet away from him once. totally tall.

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

that youtube video is so unbelievably unfunny.

Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

WAL-MART HAS FOUND THOUSANDS OF MISSING CHILDREN.

Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

wait so Kevin Nealon is a vegan, pot-smoking (well, Weeds co-star anyway, whatever that association means), conspiracy theory enthusiast CONSERVATIVE?

iiiijjjj (iiiijjjj), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe he's just the James Carville to her Mary Matalin

iiiijjjj (iiiijjjj), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.lanesarasohn.com/tvwriter/wilton01.html

a.b. (abanana), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

^^ what happened when fox attempted a daily show type program in the 80s

a.b. (abanana), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

his character on weeds is conservative, but they play him really dumb (politically)

max (maxreax), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

For the final show, The Guys were rehearsing a piece written by Greg Daniels and Philip Walsh.

HA. this is the same greg daniels from King of the Hill and The Office, right?

Still, some of these ideas are pretty good, and i'd watch 'em:
- Rodney Dangerfield and Margaret Thatcher
- Jimmy Carter would analyze major issues while fly fishing

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

more tidbits

Quick youtube bit (*warning: clip reportedly contains Marion Barry jokes*)

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

A "Daily Show" for non-liberals

Um, wouldn't that be the Daily Show?

Don't Tell Mama I'm for Obama

Hmmmmm...

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard a brief interview with Surnow on Dennis Praeger this morning. It was kind of funny to hear him try to describe the show for a few sentances without using the phrases "daily show," "weekend update" or "for conservatives" until finally giving in.

He promised a lot of attacking of "sacred cows" that "never get attacked on television" like "global warming and barack obama."

Rick Gibralter (grady), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"You know who has gotten a complete pass so far? The poor! We'll be going after them, along with widows and orphans! They'll all get their just due!"

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm more interested to see if Colbert will acknowledge them as being "legit" or not than in the actual content.
-- jw (jo...), Monday 10:01 PM. (ex machina) (later)

soooooo OTM.

Rick Gibralter (grady), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

like "global warming

Yeah, this is gonna be HILARIOUS.

Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone (kenan), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Praeger: So, what's it called?

Surnow: The Half Hour News Hour

Praeger: (Pause) Ah... (Laughs) Even that's great!

Rick Gibralter (grady), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

And so... (pause) "original".

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I was going to mention that...

Casuistry (casuistry), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

laughter sounded like it was mostly coming from one guy

step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Then we reply by putting together
a video of a couple of *thousand*
derogarory and slanderous attacks
made on republicans over the years
on every different type of program
coming out of Hollypuke, Buttstank
& the NY and DC News and talk shows...

plz to decode Buttstank?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver (hoosteen), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh god the delivery of that first Obama joke. Just, no. Stop.

milo (milo), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I never thought I would see comedians making worse deliveries than on Weekend Update, but here we are

step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

that wilton north article is depressing. i vaguely remember that show (it wasn't funny). conan o'brien was a producer on it! he seems to be the only person involved with that show whose career didn't die as a result.

akm (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha, the show apparently sucks so badly that a few folks are trashing Tina Fey while blaming the writers

The show is basically a bad version of the worst of Tina Fey's Weekend Update writing. I got really annoyed by Fey, who seemed to think Weekend Update was primarily about "informing" the audience (with heavy liberal bias), and only secondarily about joke-writing. Unfunny jokes were her stock in trade, but not for lack of talent, really -- just because she was choosing her material not according to the comedy value, but according to the educational value.

Result? Liberals went ga-ga over her for her relentless didacticism -- like her, they wanted not gags but "teachable moments" -- whereas Jimmy Fallon got all the laughs. You know-- laughs. The thing Weekend Update was supposed to be delivering.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Note that Greg Daniels was also involved on the Wilton North report, and his career turned out just fine

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i liked tina fey on snl news. she told a lot of jokes, they make it sound like she lectured everybody on iraq or something...wierd.

sir lord baltimore club music (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

and more:

My GOD, does this show blow. The guy doing the newscast shouldn't be allowed on studio property for fear whatever he has might be transmitted to other actors. The writing...well, it's like something you would expect from writers who have never done humor. Which makes me wonder if the second-tier talent from 24 is involved. Earth to Joel Surnow: comedy is a SPECIALTY. It's not enough to be able to fill a page and make a deadline. You have to have a special talent.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

wow that clip is awful.

sterl clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Part of the thing about these guys is they don't seem to get how the Daily Show & Weekend Update actually work. I think that they're projecting their own mindsets towards everybody else like usual, where they figure that Jon Stewart & Tina Fey are avowed liberals, so it's just them spreading their dumb liberal jokes to their liberal audiences. I.e. the shows function as some sort political channel or propaganda arm, rather than satire. So they figure all they have to do is make a conservative show that takes swipes at liberals and they're good as gold, right?

While Jon & the TDS crew do have a left-leaning point, is it really that hard to see that the show goes after those in power and pompous politicians doing stupid things? They constantly laughed or grimaced at Kerry's plunders two years ago, much less the Clinton Admin. Altho, that Admin was less stockd with braying jackasses, so the jokes weren't as easy.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, here we are:

http://cache.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2006/12/animalrights.jpg

lobster with angry eyebrows! Suicidal bomber owl!

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

is that a k records tattoo?

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.helsingfarmcsa.com/images/K_Records_Logo.jpg

close, but i think the tattoo is more of a kitty/wolf thing

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, kingfish; filling the need to post stuff requested by kingfish in a previous post for what seems like years now

and what (ooo), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

four year anniversary, coming up

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The tatoo looks like something out of 'Maus' actually.

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

lol hairy leg

jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

lobsters only turn red when they're cooked, no wonder bro's pissed off.

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/

a.b. (abanana), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i just noticed that the dude in that picture does shave his legs!

a.b. (abanana), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Are the overnight ratings for this thing in yet?

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I like this one: A neat little bit of commentary on the jokes of the show, from an actual joke-writer.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

from that New Yorker article:

Surnow and his friend Ann Coulter—the conservative pundit, and author of the pro-McCarthy book “Treason”—talked about creating a conservative response to George Clooney’s recent film “Good Night, and Good Luck.” Surnow said, “I thought it would really provoke people to do a movie that depicted Joe McCarthy as an American hero or, maybe, someone with a good cause who maybe went too far.”

I feel like the way this idea is framed is very revealing, and kind of ties in with what that review linked above says about the show actively trying to wring humor from things rather than looking for naturally-occurring humor. Notice that he doesn't say that he, specifically, sees Joe McCarthy as a tragic figure deserving of sympathy, or would like to reform the public perception of him; he simply thinks it would "provoke people" (see also: Barack Obama race jokes, reheated Ann Coulter foot-in-mouthisms, etc). I realize that this basically just confirms what everyone else has already said, but it's still kind of amazing (to me) to see just how straightforward his thought process is.

Goodtime Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great Frisco Freakout (bernard snowy), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

he simply thinks it would "provoke people"

Not only that, but as a direct response to Clooney's out-there liberalism. HE'S MAD AS HELL AND HE'S NOT GOING TO USE REASON ANYMORE.

teasing your poultry (kenan), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that the entire point to a lot of these guys is the "provoke" bit, which is why half of the rightwing blog posts about the show always included the "and it will drive those liberals NUTS." A.C.'s raison d'etre is to expend a large amount of effort into being "outrageous", just to get airtime and sell more books.

But, as said earlier on this thread and elsewhere, modern conservatism is pretty much boiled down to "we'll get those dirty hippies" and little else.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

all this horseshit is intended not to amuse conservatives but to inflame liberals and so far it seems to be working like a charm

m coleman (lovebug ), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

no one's really getting 'enraged' though are they?

deej (deej), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Not really. It's like the reactions are more a mild irritation to a mild bemusement.

Of course, there are those who call for the hanging of all traitors, then start talking about people who disagree with Dear Leader...

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

actually Id like to hang that smug fuck from "24" interviewed in the New Yorker

m coleman (lovebug ), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

More on hangin' the traitors, and that stupid Lincoln quote that some guy at the Moonie Times made up

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

don young calls for the execution of the people who represent 60%+ of US opinion... not newsworthy.

GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

search: the last 2 of montreal albums, "in the aeroplane etc" (shut up it's pretty good)

destroy everything else

a.b. (abanana), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

d'oh

a.b. (abanana), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Frum says 'Watch Rome instead.' Which sounds like good advice.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

clearly ur preference for nu-barnes makes that post even more of a whoopsie doodle (xpost)

A B C (sparklecock), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 02:26 (seventeen years ago) link

If the Lincoln non-quote dustup is your thing, or if you just like hearing a jerk prevaricate, here's Greenwald vs Gaffney, regarding Gaffney's repetition of the non-quote. Gaffney's explanation is roughly I didn't mean we should literally hang Congress members, but those Congress members need to understand that their words have consequences, just as acts of treasonous dissent have consequences, and treasonous dissenters should be hanged. And, schoolmarmy lectures from Colmes.

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

all this horseshit is intended not to amuse conservatives but to inflame liberals and so far it seems to be working like a charm

-- m coleman (writeco...), February 19th, 2007. (lovebug )

really? i think the liberals are chuckling as they read the conservatives talking about piss poor the whole thing is. schadenfreude, etc. i have yet to see any 'inflamed' liberals.

hm (modestmickey), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeez, upon actually listening to the full Gaffney clip, this guy is a straight douche, and then starts nattering on about how Saddam actually had WMDs, supported terrorism against the U.S., wanted to ship these WMDs over in aerosol cans, etc. And more funnies when the guy busts out an FCC violation when actually challenged.

It's really scary that these assholes hold policy positions and get listened to at the highest levels.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.scrappleface.com/

^- this thing's s'posed to be like a rightwing Onion, right?

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

next ep is coming on March 4th

Meanwhile, more comedy, courtesy of them hiring Michelle Malkin. I'm hoping that they give an hour-long show to each TownHall poster, just for full entertainment value.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 26 February 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

ratings are in!

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

Did anybody ever see the 2nd ep of this? Apparently more are on the way...

Mazinkaiserfisch Rocket Punch!, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link


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