Jane Dark Sugarhigh blog on Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" restoring "melodic range to pop"

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I thought the album version was the same as the single edit but apparently not!

no swearing on my copy of the album!

i think beyoncé's return, again and again, to the theme of economics is essential to both the persona she builds up of herself as popstar, and to enable her songs to ring true to 'normal' life. she's consistently used financial security/superiority to represent more than just what it is; and, far from rendering her heartless and cold, the way she constantly returns to it kind of proves that she's more in touch with the sometimes-unpleasant details of how real-life relationships (both within & without her income bracket) function than any number of singers who prefer to sing about the more romantic, rose-coloured picture. what's that statistic again, half of all relationships end because of financial disagreements/incompatibility?

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Even with a song like "Crazy In Love" it's a bad idea to go too far with biographical assumptions. I mean it's not like Jay-Z and Beyonce are just sitting on the couch spooning one day and then a light-bulb goes on and they rush into the studio to let their feelings pour forth.

Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Though they and their handlers might like it if the buying public sees it that way.

Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the way she constantly returns to it kind of proves that she's more in touch with the sometimes-unpleasant details of how real-life relationships (both within & without her income bracket) function

she doesn't offer any comment on how unpleasantly materialistic life can get, just affirms it; and by affirming it by talking about ridiculous fucking bullshit brands, sports cars, and war diamonds yay, she really isn't on the side of the poor lex.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, well that's all about playing to the aspirational audience.

Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

well for sure, but i'm not going to use the end-product of that calculation as a stick to beat the allegedly "romantic, rose-coloured picture" provided by other artists. it is what it is.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

In last month's GQ Beyonce says that as someone born into the middle classes, she's "more intelligent" than people from "the hood", and this makes it easy for her to cope with success.

She then didn't add a "Why you frontin' wigga?" style html mark-up box.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

no, hurting, yr right--i don't want to take it (a bio. reading) too far, but i don't think it's a wrong-headed movement; especially not if a huge number of fans are hearing the song that way--but i can already see the danger of this angle, namely, that i sort of assumed that this was the song that everyone thot was abt hov but apparently none of you did, so either i hallucinated that reaction, or its v. specific to the ppl i interact w/.

max (maxreax), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Way late but anyway:

Fair enough, but that doesn't really answer my question. I didn't ask how they are similiar, (and half of that is based on circumstance, rather than anything within the songs. the circle-of-fifths thing may be a good point, but my knowledge of music theory is rather rudimentary) I asked how one is a ripoff of the other. I don't see any reason to assume that Beyonce was consciously or even subconsciously setting out to make a song that sounds like "Unpretty".

I did not use the word "ripoff" to imply intent on the part of Beyonce. I used the word "ripoff" to imply similarity, chronology and how I view the relative quality of both (I am not a fan of "Unpretty" but I would rather listen to that any day over "Irreplaceable", despite Beyonce being a much better singer than anyone in TLC).

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

aw c'mon her ridiculous bullshit dazzles any cultural theory etc etc...

da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link


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