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I wrote some stupid sea shanty. The only song I remember someone else bringing in was a deep cut off Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness.

I have never been able to figure out what he says in "Loser." Whores over Canada? Scores of what else is new?

"Soy un perdidor." = "I'm a loser" en espanol.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

soy un perdedor. i'm a loser in spanish.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

man, I hated Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

horeshoe OTM.

i have a hard spot in my heart for the smashing pumpkins.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard the whole album, but "1979" is pretty choice.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

That song is okay and I liked Gish.

MOCK ME THAT IS FINE I CAN TAKE IT.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"1979" is the exception to my hatred of that album. it was THE album of my high school and I could not get away from it. god. HATE.

xp: I have nothing against the Pumpkins except Billy Corgan seems like a douche. "1979" is super-pretty, but all my friends were obsessed with that album and I blame it for making them boring.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i heart hard-boiled

grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

gish was good, lull was ok, but i saw them once and that bald fuck came onstage and said "sorry, i know we really suck tonight." AND THEN WENT RIGHT ON SUCKING.

fuck you, billy. and fuck me for spending $15 dollars on tickets to that 12 years ago.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

but all my friends were obsessed with that album and I blame it for making them boring.

Point taken.

except Billy Corgan seems like a douche.

I've prob mentioned this before (although not to you, Horseshoe) -- but my friend Katie worked as BC's personal assistant for a year. She says (of course) that he's "misunderstood."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA MISUNDERSTOOD

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I appreciate that kind of honesty! I've heard that he has a lot of trouble, how you say, singing, live.

I was never a big fan, but I still like most of their singles. I owned Siamese Dream for a minute when it was de rigueur. Great drumming.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

2x, that guy was an eye-opener back in the day.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's not even my usual thing, but Siamese Dream is pretty awesome.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

owned Siamese Dream for a minute when it was de rigueur. Great drumming.

yeah, in a studio where they can wait and wait and wait until his brain is clear of junk to get a decent take. lousy fucking singing, a drummer who was too fucked up to count to four, open hostility between bandmates on stage.... great show.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff just sent me this link and it made me LOL for some reason: http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/009158.php

HS OTM w/r/t the many ways that other people ruin probably perfectly reasonable music. And Billy Corrigan's douchery. Probably Michael Stipe, too, but I was such a massive fangirl back in the day that I'll forgive MS for nearly anything except maybe buying sex slaves and torturing cats.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

LR: Pavement had some nasty lyrics about you on one of their albums. Did the groovy, indie scene turn on you when you got popular?

BC: Sure. But my whole thing is that people don't fall in love to Pavement, people don't get up in the morning before they go to school and put on Big Black. They put on Smashing Pumpkins or Hole or Nirvana, because these bands actually mean something to them. It's the difference between music you put on to take drugs to, and music you put on to live your life.

jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavement_(band)


Billy Corgan, leader of The Smashing Pumpkins, threatened to drop The Smashing Pumpkins from the 1994 Lollapalooza Festival if Pavement was allowed to play. The Smashing Pumpkins were headlining Lollapalooza that year.

jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

hee, Jenny, you just reminded me of the time my sister borrowed a vampy lipstick of mine to go see R.E.M. in concert. she had intentions of seducing Michael Stipe. I didn't have the heart to point out how that totally wasn't going to work out for her. she lurved him.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ rock dudes

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"smiling politely"

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

did i hear SM in an old navy commercial last night? the voice sounded familiar but the song wasn't.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

how about lol @ drama queens, especially out-of-touch ones

It kind of reminds me of like Zsa Zsa Gabor or something: "I used to be the most beautiful woman in the world. I used to be in pictures."

xpost

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago, i'm going to spend the night in a fully heated house! with dogs and cats and food and beer. i don't wanna go to work tomorrow already.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

About 88% of my personality in high school was that I was the biggest Smashing Pumpkins fan everyone knew. Go ahead! Hate me! It just makes me stronger!

Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

the voice sounded familiar but the song wasn't.

Maybe it was ZWANN.

Heh, one of the dudes in my band started a rumor about another friend that he's a really big Zwann fan, and got really upset when they broke up. You should try it with someone you know, it's fun.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Malkmus wasn't in Zwan.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh come on, EVERYONE was in Zwan!

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

It was like USA for Africa!

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok I am off to STATE MANDATED ETHICS TRAINING.
Tootles.

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Zwan = bald egomaniac, Asian dude from Slint/Tortoise, scuzzy Oldham pal that n/a worships and Kelsey has a crush on, bald egomaniac's junkie buddy.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

You forgot 3rd-string Hole bass player.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I read SM as SP. Whatever.

Btw, I've got my (non-dude) book club for Man with the Golden Arm tonight and we're meeting at a bar, so I plan on drinking in the style of the novel.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i.e., with a golden arm?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

No. With whiskey shots.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"The music wasn't the big problem, it was more their attitude...Sex acts between band members in public. People carrying drugs across borders. Pajo sleeping with the producer's girlfriend while we were making the record." [1]

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

But the music was pretty bad, too.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I thought Pajo and Paz were sleeping together...?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

They might as well since they're apparently the same person

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, I'm gonna out myself as a huge, huge Pumpkins fan right now... they were very, very hit or miss live, but some of their shows were absolutely killer. BC is a huge douche, but an underrated guitar player.

(xxxxpost)

jonviachicago, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, Sarah, I knew I was going to end up being an asshole in bitching about Smashing Pumpkins. all of my favorite people in high school were huge SP fans!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

OMGOMGOMGOMGOGMMGOMGMGMGMG! Comcast On Demand has a...

KARAOKE CHANNEL.

Fucking. Karaoke. Channel. On our tee vee.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahahahaha! Cannonball! "In the style of the Breeders."

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what else you can get ON DEMAND? Guitar lessons. There is a woman teaching Jeff how to play "Ironic" on TV right now.

There's also "dating on demand" that I watched on day when I was bored, but it was kind of depressing.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Complaining about the Smashing Pumpkins = not allowed. (I am a bigot.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

NED RAGGETT do you want to come over and sing karaoke using our TV?

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I am too tired and full of good food to move much.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

You can sit on the couch.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Also on Comcast: "Rich Bitches"

danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link


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