homegirl prolly wasn't thinkin of any dramatic irony, she was just bustin out a few good hooks
― Surmounter (Awn, R), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link
i have to say that i did hear "rip off" the first time i heard it cuz that part in the middle reminds me of this christina aguilera song off the first album where she's like "a love for al lseaons a love for all time"
ANYWAY, what i think, about this song is that yes it's DIFFERENT from like say my name, bills bills bills - i think because it's way more cut and pastey
but i LIKE cut and pastey, i find it deft and clver, so i say goo girl.
― Surmounter (Awn, R), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― elmo albatross (allocryptic), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Surmounter (Awn, R), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― elmo albatross (allocryptic), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Surmounter (Awn, R), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link
beyonce girl u own this song i know jay z was embarresed when he heard this wit his big lip self u need to have this on radio its to good to have to search for it and u sho right u can have a nuther him in a minute u go girl tell yo man cuz sum people just be like oh its ok he wont do it again but u told him he must not know bout u lol
― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link
NEW YORK - Beyonce has hit another high note, claiming the coveted cover shot of this year's Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue in a yellow-and-pink bikini.
"The Dreamgirl As You've Never Seen Her," a cover headline teases. There's also a photo spread inside the magazine.
The 25-year-old singer-actress ("Dreamgirls") posed on a Florida beach in the bikini designed by House of Dereon, the fashion label she started with her mother, Tina Knowles.
The 2007 swimsuit edition continues with a music theme inside, featuring scantily clad models posing with Kanye West, Aerosmith, Kenny Chesney, Gnarls Barkley and Panic! At the Disco.
A five-page spread featuring Russian Anne Vyalitsyna was shot at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland in September.
"Once the decision was made to have a music hook, one of the first settings to come up was the Rock Hall, because it's such an iconic place," said Sports Illustrated spokesman Rick McCabe. "It was a natural fit."
Vyalitsyna posed with Jon Bon Jovi's motorcycle and other Rock Hall items.
The magazine portrayed the museum with respect, said Todd Mesek, Rock Hall spokesman.
"We felt it would've been an omission if we weren't included," he said.
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― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Well, I like "Irreplacable" more than most of those songs, including "Unpretty", and don't necessarily agree that she gives better performances on all of them, so taste is a bugger, etc.
And how is "Irreplacable" a ripoff of "Unpretty" other than that both are R&B songs built around an acoustic guitar?
― The Reverend (Rodney J. Greene), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Thursday, 15 February 2007 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Reverend shines like a lighthouse (Rodney J. Greene), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link
-- max (mreadn...), February 13th, 2007.
WTF? When did singing a song that's not actually about one's own life become something only decipherable by "super formalist" readings??? Did Johnny Cash actually kill a man?
― Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Dan, as long as Sugababes' "Ugly" it's hard for me to take this accusation seriously.
― Tim F (Tim F), Thursday, 15 February 2007 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― max (maxreax), Thursday, 15 February 2007 07:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Reverend shines like a lighthouse (Rodney J. Greene), Thursday, 15 February 2007 07:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― max (maxreax), Thursday, 15 February 2007 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link
surely 'ring the alarm' rather than 'irreplaceable' though? the rihanna/teairra mari rumours, and so on. i basically agree that this tabloidy method of consumption is a worthwhile angle though.
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 08:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
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If I bought it nigga please don't touchAnd keep talking that mess, that's fineBut could you walk and talk at the same timeAnd It's my mine name that is on that JagSo remove your bags let me call you a cab
Standing in the front yard telling meHow I'm such a fool - Talking aboutHow I'll never ever find a man like youYou got me twisted
You must not know about meYou must not know about meI could have another you in a minutematter fact he'll be here in a minute - baby
You must not know about meYou must not know about meI can have another you by tomorrowSo don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable
So go ahead and get goneAnd call up on that chick and see if she is homeOops, I bet ya thought that I didn't knowWhat did you think I was putting you out for?Cause you was untrue Rolling her around in the car that I bought youBaby you dropped them keys hurry up before your taxi leavesStanding in the front yard telling meHow I am such a fool - Talking aboutHow I'll never ever find a man like youYou got me twisted
You must not know about meYou must not know about meI will have another you by tomorrowSo don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable
So since I’m not your everythingHow about I'll be nothingNothing at all to youBaby I wont shead a tear for youI won't lose a wink of sleepCause the truth of the matter isReplacing you is so easy
To the leftTo the leftTo the leftTo the leftTo the leftTo the leftEverything you own in the box to the left
To the leftTo the left
Don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable
― Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link
I thought the album version was the same as the single edit but apparently not!
the part where I think most analysis of Beynoce's relationship songs being about Jay falls apart is when she seems to be singing from the perspective of a relationship where either she (in "Ring The Alarm") or he (in "Irreplaceable") is financially dependent on the other, that one would be broke if the other dumped them, which obviously isn't the case. but then maybe she's just trying to frame the songs in such a way that people who aren't extravagantly rich can identify with them (as opposed to, say, "Upgrade U," where I've never even heard of half the brands they're babbling on about).
― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link
no swearing on my copy of the album!
i think beyoncé's return, again and again, to the theme of economics is essential to both the persona she builds up of herself as popstar, and to enable her songs to ring true to 'normal' life. she's consistently used financial security/superiority to represent more than just what it is; and, far from rendering her heartless and cold, the way she constantly returns to it kind of proves that she's more in touch with the sometimes-unpleasant details of how real-life relationships (both within & without her income bracket) function than any number of singers who prefer to sing about the more romantic, rose-coloured picture. what's that statistic again, half of all relationships end because of financial disagreements/incompatibility?
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link
she doesn't offer any comment on how unpleasantly materialistic life can get, just affirms it; and by affirming it by talking about ridiculous fucking bullshit brands, sports cars, and war diamonds yay, she really isn't on the side of the poor lex.
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shadowcat (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link
She then didn't add a "Why you frontin' wigga?" style html mark-up box.
― White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― max (maxreax), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Fair enough, but that doesn't really answer my question. I didn't ask how they are similiar, (and half of that is based on circumstance, rather than anything within the songs. the circle-of-fifths thing may be a good point, but my knowledge of music theory is rather rudimentary) I asked how one is a ripoff of the other. I don't see any reason to assume that Beyonce was consciously or even subconsciously setting out to make a song that sounds like "Unpretty".
I did not use the word "ripoff" to imply intent on the part of Beyonce. I used the word "ripoff" to imply similarity, chronology and how I view the relative quality of both (I am not a fan of "Unpretty" but I would rather listen to that any day over "Irreplaceable", despite Beyonce being a much better singer than anyone in TLC).
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link