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I like Reckless just fine, but I have much less specialized record store needs than most people. I'm happy as long as the clerks don't openly mock my selections.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Woe be unto the record store clerk who does that. WOE I tell you.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that's a myth borne out of people's insecurities. I've never been openly mocked, or otherwise treated derisively, by a record-store clerk.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

As a former record store clerk, I have openly mocked people's selections.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

So who is actually going to be around Xmas weekend?

Me. I don't know what date we're going to come to your show yet. On Friday (the 22nd) I'm arranging for Restaurant Club to go to Glenn's Diner, a place a block away from Kr's apartment that specializes in seafood and also serves cereal all day. It'd be v. easy to just come to the Gr Mill afterwards -- it's relatively close -- but if that doesn't happen for some reason, then we'll def. be there on Saturday. Kr is v. excited.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

they never have anything i want. if i'm lucky they will get in one copy of a new full length on in the red or sympathy for the record industry. and if you ask them to order anything for you they make it seem like it would only be slightly less difficult than painting the sistine chapel. my first option now is ordering from goner or passout or interpunk. but if i want something immediately, if i need instant gratification i don't even bother going there, i'll go to laurie's. the only time i wind up at reckless now is if i'm bored with nothing to do. i'll walk to wicker park, do some people watching, flip through the stacks, hit the book stores then get an iced coffee from half and half and sit in the park and smoke and drink and watch the people again.

xpost, i've never been mocked (to my knowledge but then i'm not very observent/don't give a fuck) but god, if you ask anything of some clerks it's like they are SO put out. THAT pisses me off, it's just bad service. and on top of a crappy selection (for what i want) it leaves me with little reason to go there.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I was openly mocked by record store clerks at In Y0ur Ear, in Providence. for Kate Bush. motherfuckers.

horsehoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i used to luuuuuurrrrrve in your ear in harvard square.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't that make THEM the losers, Roz? I dunno anything about 'er but the noize bored loves Kate Bush.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Glenn's Diner, a place a block away from Kr's apartment that specializes in seafood and also serves cereal all day.

...wow.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, the one in Providence has a good selection, or did when I lived there, but I hated those dudes. (yes, they were all dudes.)

xpost: totally, Laurel. so I can feel superior about it. but at the time, I got all flustered.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, like I said -- Reckless is a lousy place to go if you're looking for something in particular. I don't even fuck with new stuff there, I just flip through the "recent used" stack and see if I can find something I've always kinda-wanted for $7.99.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

...wow

haha, I knew you'd have this reaction!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to have breakfast there. I'm gonna have all my meals scheduled (Fiesta Mexicana, Lawrence's, Ashkenaz, etc.).

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Glenn Fahlstrom, one of the original partners of Evanston's Davis Street Fishmarket, has opened this diner in the former Andalucia address in Ravenswood. Fahlstrom tells us he's "reinventing the diner," adding subtle twists to classic items for better flavor profiles (like adding chives and red onions to the potato pancakes and a slice of maple honey ham to the burgers). All-day breakfast includes buttermilk pancakes and about 25 varieties of cereal poured tableside, just like mom used to do (BTW, the cereal is all-you-can-eat, you just pay for additional milk or fruit add-ins). Lunch offers sandwiches like a steak sandwich and carved-to-order chicken sandwich. Dinner offers about a dozen fresh fish specials; check out the large blackboards on the dining room's walls. Fahlstrom toned down the former vibrant-hued dining room; look for white walls, dark cherry tables and wainscoting, plus a cubbyhole wall stocked with cereal boxes.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

My 9th grade English teacher (in Australia) was a HUGE Kate Bush fan. He made us analyze a bunch of her lyrics most everyone hated it. I thought it was better than reading some shitty anthology.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I am really making a play for the Shit Typing Award today.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

In my snooty record store clerk defense:

1. I was 18 - 21.
2. My open mocking was reserved for people with no musical imagination, ie "I need a song for my daughter's wedding. Do you have the one about kissing butterflies?"
3. During my second record store clerk stint at 27 I openly mocked no one.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

aw! sometimes I think it might be fun to assign song lyrics if I were to teach high school, but I imagine it's always more fun for the teacher than anyone else.

John, you're making me hungry.

xpost: oh, I get why people do it. I'm sure I'd do it in my head if I worked retail at a bookstore. I was easily intimidated by indie rock boys at that point in my life anyway. I'd be able to handle it if it happened now.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a lot of behind-the-back mocking, but this was at the HEIGHT of the ska/"electronica" era so I dare anyone to have done any better than I.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

if i were in your shoes jenny i'm sure i would have lost my job for refusing to sell that type of filth.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

My seventh grade sociology teacher asked us all to bring in song lyrics once class and read them aloud. I brought "In Your Eyes" by Peter Gabriel but had never really read them before and totally got the giggles during the "drive off in my car" part, which comes across kind of dorkalicious when read by a seventh grader. My friend Karen read "Add It Up" by the Violent Femmes and got up to "I look at your pants" before he stopped her.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps not the most well thought out lesson plan....

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I never mocked anyone openly as a record store clerk and I was working there during the TEEN POP EXPLOZIONE. Our staff had a really wide range of interests though, which was a relief.

I saved my energy for following people I thought would buy things I liked and trying to see what they were looking at. It was more positive stalking than negatively-charged derision.

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, when I was living out in the burbs the guys at R3cord Br3ak3rs in Hoffman Estates were always harassing people about their purchases. Thing was, they had like the shittiest taste ever and were always arguing about what screamo band was better. The vinyl selection was great for a suburban store, but man, I fucking hated shopping there.

jonviachicago, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm guessing people bought Chemical Brothers and Cherry Poppin' Daddies just because they were next to each other in the bin.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

someone was telling me about using Biggie's "Warning" in an English class. which seemed like it would really work as long as everyone could handle the "adult language."

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

We had an assignment in 12th grade AP English to bring in a song that exemplified a "ballad" (we were doing a unit on lyric poetry)and talk about it. But we got extra credit if we wrote/performed a song ourselves. I may have been the only one who took the teacher up on this.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I read the lyrics to "Loser" in 10th grade English as "poetry" (not as my own, but I introduced it as being the the work of B. Hansen). The teacher, a complete dumbass if there ever was one, totally let it slide.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm guessing people bought Chemical Brothers and Cherry Poppin' Daddies just because they were next to each other in the bin.

You'd think but NO! We created special Ska and "Electronica" sections and became well known for having the best selection of both genres in lower Delaware (damning with faint praise for real). Chemical Bros was exactly the right era. It was the summer of Block Rockin' Beats, which I actually still think is a pretty catchy song.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never been able to figure out what he says in "Loser." Whores over Canada? Scores of what else is new?

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it was during a poetry unit that this person had used "Warning." the motivation being to try to make poetry more relatable.

horsehoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I wrote some stupid sea shanty. The only song I remember someone else bringing in was a deep cut off Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness.

I have never been able to figure out what he says in "Loser." Whores over Canada? Scores of what else is new?

"Soy un perdidor." = "I'm a loser" en espanol.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

soy un perdedor. i'm a loser in spanish.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

man, I hated Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

horeshoe OTM.

i have a hard spot in my heart for the smashing pumpkins.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard the whole album, but "1979" is pretty choice.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

That song is okay and I liked Gish.

MOCK ME THAT IS FINE I CAN TAKE IT.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"1979" is the exception to my hatred of that album. it was THE album of my high school and I could not get away from it. god. HATE.

xp: I have nothing against the Pumpkins except Billy Corgan seems like a douche. "1979" is super-pretty, but all my friends were obsessed with that album and I blame it for making them boring.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i heart hard-boiled

grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

gish was good, lull was ok, but i saw them once and that bald fuck came onstage and said "sorry, i know we really suck tonight." AND THEN WENT RIGHT ON SUCKING.

fuck you, billy. and fuck me for spending $15 dollars on tickets to that 12 years ago.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

but all my friends were obsessed with that album and I blame it for making them boring.

Point taken.

except Billy Corgan seems like a douche.

I've prob mentioned this before (although not to you, Horseshoe) -- but my friend Katie worked as BC's personal assistant for a year. She says (of course) that he's "misunderstood."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA MISUNDERSTOOD

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I appreciate that kind of honesty! I've heard that he has a lot of trouble, how you say, singing, live.

I was never a big fan, but I still like most of their singles. I owned Siamese Dream for a minute when it was de rigueur. Great drumming.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

2x, that guy was an eye-opener back in the day.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's not even my usual thing, but Siamese Dream is pretty awesome.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

owned Siamese Dream for a minute when it was de rigueur. Great drumming.

yeah, in a studio where they can wait and wait and wait until his brain is clear of junk to get a decent take. lousy fucking singing, a drummer who was too fucked up to count to four, open hostility between bandmates on stage.... great show.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff just sent me this link and it made me LOL for some reason: http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/009158.php

HS OTM w/r/t the many ways that other people ruin probably perfectly reasonable music. And Billy Corrigan's douchery. Probably Michael Stipe, too, but I was such a massive fangirl back in the day that I'll forgive MS for nearly anything except maybe buying sex slaves and torturing cats.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

LR: Pavement had some nasty lyrics about you on one of their albums. Did the groovy, indie scene turn on you when you got popular?

BC: Sure. But my whole thing is that people don't fall in love to Pavement, people don't get up in the morning before they go to school and put on Big Black. They put on Smashing Pumpkins or Hole or Nirvana, because these bands actually mean something to them. It's the difference between music you put on to take drugs to, and music you put on to live your life.

jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link


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