ILNFL sandbox thread, because you shouldn't pass up a chance to LOL @ the NY Giants

But the kind of schemes that fit Vick's style of play don't seem to work consistently on the NFL level. Maybe the NFL game will change, but Vick may be past his prime at that point.

Argh come on, I'm getting really sick of this argument. I don't personally think he's too stupid for any of it, just incredibly bad at throwing a ball (combo of the Eli inconsistency on the short + the Favre BREAK YA FINGAS YAAAAAAAAHH thing previously mentioned, you can't do BOTH of those with a bunch of shitty receivers and have me even care about you), but ffs everyone I know who thinks Vick is terrible or stupid likes Donovan McNabb and Warren Moon. The only thing revealed by such a statement is that some people just want their QBs to be QBs, not frigging RBs. Though the idea of just putting 11 RBs out there as your offense is pretty funny :D

In fairness, he does hold every record that ever existed in the history of football. I'm not sure what that implies vis a vis intelligence cos he really does seem like a total dingbat.

The whole argument that anyone is too stupid to play QB is kind of a funny one to me, thinking about it. Montana is like the biggest advertisement for brain injury I've seen that is still walkin' and talkin' in society. The only people I can possibly even remotely think of in terms of this comparison is like, Manning or Troy Aikman? And the correct word for Manning is not "smart" but rather "obsessive compulsive bordering on Howard Hughes."

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well, see, what a (successful) quarterback has to do is RECOGNIZE those complex blitz schemes and adjust to them on the fly. so while the defensive player has all year to learn his team's plan the opponent has a week or so. if the qb can't make those adjustments you turn into drew bledsoe. who has a more powerful arm than either manning or brady and is just as accurate but he can't recognize and decide quickly enough.

xpost I'm pretty convinced one day Tom Brady is going to turn out to actually have been a serial killer.

16) Atlanta Falcons (5-6)

It's like choosing up sides in a stickball game. On one side there's Jim Mora Sr., the coach's father, who agrees that Michael Vick is a "coach breaker." Captain of the other team is Vick himself, who shot the crowd the double-bird after he was booed. A recent entry on the Vick team is owner Arthur Blank, who told CBS's Tony Siragusa, by way of deflecting criticism from his QB, "I've got three No. 1 wide receivers and none of them can catch the ball." Then there are the TV experts such as Irvin who feel that Vick should "just be allowed to play the game," you know, as they do in the schoolyard. And on the other side, a whole bunch of stern faced types who say, no, quarterbacking is a trade to be learned, like glassblowing or metal working. Stick around. It's getting good.

32) Detroit Lions (2-9)

Someone sits in a little public address booth, giggling to himself, and when the visiting Dolphins' defense is introduced, he gets ex-Lion QBs Joey Harrington's name thrown in, to achieve the full flavor of the boos, and just to make the thing more nasty, he arranges it so that Billy Joel's "Piano Man" comes over the loud speaker. Harrington plays the piano. Now the Lions are in total denial. No one claims responsibility, of course, although the finger of guilt is being leveled at a guy called Bryan Bender, their Director of Broadcast and Production. What a team! What an operation! I wish I could move this team down to 35th spot or so.

xpost horseshoe totally OTM.

well I mean... those guys (mcnabb & moon*) are a lot less \hiphop than Vick. I think the fact that he's always wearnig white tees, do-rags, the tats, hair in braids, the way he talks, this stuff is as big a factor as the blackness. I hope I'm not making it sound like I'm admonishing ppl who aren't fans of his cuz that's not what I'm trying to do, I mean there are times when I wish he played a little more like McNabb. if you think the guy's a bum then that's cool, I have no compunction when it comes to saying that about a shitload of dudes! i just think there's a lot of racialists who use the fact that it's easy and acceptable right now to dump on his game as an excuse to say a lot of suspect things.

*moon has a hot white supermodel wife though. that's pretty gangsta.

I'm also no fan of Lord Brett trying to always force the ball into double and triple coverage. Now that's the definition of stupid.

*besides Brandon The Barbarian

Maybe I'll comapare him to Kordell and start another shitstorm from rabid Burgh fans.

If I keep it up I'm well on the way to becoming the Geir Hongro of ilnfl.

As a Pittsburgh fan I'm obligated to hate the Ravens. It's been harder this year because I really do like McNair. After the way he was chucked out of Tennessee he deserves a shot at the Superbowl. Since the Steelers have thrown their chances away I'm rooting for the Saints as the sentimental favorites.

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