Right, this thread is for telling folk that the 'proper' ILX is down again, so if you see this above the "ILX is back up" thread it means ILX is back down

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only for community ilx.thehold.net?

― grady (grady), Monday, 27 November 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't believe that's only for us. I think you lie like cheap Japanese watch.

― C J (C J), Monday, 27 November 2006 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

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― pss, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

(stop bumping the other one, dammit)

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 08:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 09:10 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry everybody &c

― Keep your hoos high, shit gets steener/Here comes the grim reaper (hoosteen), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 09:14 (seventeen years ago) link

don't worry about it :-)

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link

that was fun while it lasted.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Not a great sign, the box appears to have fallen over.

― KeefW (KeefW), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

huh

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

fallen over?

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, it's uncontactable.

― KeefW (KeefW), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

it's back, it got up i guess

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Indeed...

― KeefW (KeefW), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link

we never had all this "maintenance" crap back in the day!

― onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

The server at ilx.wh3rd.net is taking too long to respond!!1!11!1!1!!

― ledge (ledge), Thursday, 8 February 2007 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe it's just me.

― ledge (ledge), Thursday, 8 February 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

waht

― Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm...

― Back in ILX Limbo (Roz), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

This is I Love Everything
The boards are down until they can be secured from JW.

This may take some days.

Oh FFS.

― much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

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― sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

All of our ILXOR boards are missing!!!

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Who the hell is JW and what did he/she do????

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Jon Williams. Something hacking related beyond my capabilities to explain I am guessing.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

FWIW, I haven't heard anything from anyone about this. If any of the coders would like a 2 second workaround so we can get ilx back up, email me.

― jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Would it really have killed you to have just suggested the workaround in the first place?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

When have the admins listened to me?

― jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

why does it bother you? you're the only one who takes advantage of the weaknesses!

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been fucking listening! I've been looking at the spam-sorting solution you talked about, and I implemented your idea on PEW as soon as I read it.

I'm no longer interested in workarounds for the old code. It's riddled with holes. One could do an injection from the name field for a while there! I'm not going around attempting to close every damn hole solely to prevent *you* from taking advantage of it.

You *know* we're moving to new code. There is no advantage to "testing" the old code.

― stet'; (stet), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

They don't listen to you or trust you because you keep pulling shit like this and then unnecessarily playing the victim, perhaps? And because half the time when you DO stop being dickish and actually make a constructive suggestion from the off it's taken on board and you are usually thanked?

(xpost)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm enjoying the computer kittens, though. Thank you for that!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a gray manx just like that one!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Its not like I locked everyone out of posting to ILX. That was the real admins!

― jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

There's no reason for ILX to be locked. I don't want this to get into people accusing me of seeking attention or whatever. But I had admin on ILE and I did notthing to try to annoy everyone or publicly show off. No one else (other than the admins) know how I did it, so kindly stop blowing this out of proportion and unlock ILX. Or do you feel that you need to crucify me in the court of public opinion so the few miserable cunts who dislike me can have a great argument for banning me?

― jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

hi dere

― Confounded (Confounded), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I did notthing to... publicly show off. (sic)

No one else (other than the admins) know how I did it

― much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Sunday, 11 February 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Alex in SF, you'll regret the lack of googleproofing, I tells thee...

― Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, fwiw someone mentioned there had been a CSS flood on a Sh1mura Curv3s thread on thehold(?) that I had been accused of doing. Not me!

― jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Aldo, the point being, there's no reason for ILX to be down. Now I'm going to brunch so I won't be around. bye!

― jw (ex machina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

When have the admins listened to me?

-- jw (jon@////), February 11th, 2007

Jon, I've listened to you many times! You've emailed me about googleproofing stuff in the past, and I've got onto it str8away, just the same as I wd do for anyone! I even emailed you the other day to ask you what that "fuck you googleproof me" thing was about.

FWIW, I looked at ilx this morning (uk time), ACCIDENTALLY looked at the modlog on ile, and noticed that Jon had carried out a couple of admin actions last night, checked the admin page on ile, and found that he had somehow added himself to the ile moderators list with full privs. I emailed stet about this, and he pulled the site. I think stet did the right thing, because if Jon can exploit vunerabilities in the old code, so can other ppl. Getting in at top level means among other things, the ability to delete the entire database. Personally, I can't see Jon doing this. Other people I don't know about.

― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

so if you're worried about the other people, why does ILX say boards are down untill they can be secured from Jon? It does make it sound like he's sitting there destroying ilx. If that's the case, it's one thing...

― dan selzer (dan selzer), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Everybody:

Jon found a security hole in ILX that lets him get access to the database. Full access, so he can give himself mod privs, delete posts, threads, boards, the whole site.

He didn't tell Keith or me how he did it, he just took advantage of it. Keith and I are the only people with access to the server right now. We both have full-time jobs. The old ILX code running depends on people not trying to break it, or hack in.

If Jon is going to hack the boards by finding holes -- of which there are many -- we can't leave them up without doing a lot more admin work to try and stop him. On top of which, the new host's backup system hasn't been set up yet, so we have no backups right now.

We're going to move to the new secure code. It's not quite ready, it hasn't had all the features fleshed out, but it lets you post and is largely secure.

― stet (stet), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks for the update, stet.

― Eisbär (Eisbär), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

"Alex in SF, you'll regret the lack of googleproofing, I tells thee..."

Is this a threat?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want this to get into people accusing me of seeking attention or whatever.

good luck with that

― sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Um.. If you all know the code is bad & full of security holes, and are already in process of moving to the new secure code.. What is the problem? It seems like the "ILX is down" message should say that ILX goes back up when the board is secure, period, not when the board is secured from JW.. Can a backup be done quickly just for safety's sake and then the board be put it back up now with the notice that the code isn't fixed yet but nobody using the board is to do that again or risk being banned. After all the admin log did show immediately what happened and I presume it would show it again.

― dar1a g (dar1a g), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

board is secure, period, not when the board is secured from JW..
These are pretty much the same thing!

Yes, the message should be a bit better, but I'm at work and can only access the server from my phone! Otherwise I would get cracking on backups etc, aye.

― stet (stet), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

But, no, the admin log need not show what happened. He can alter the DB at will.

― stet (stet), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

ah well, at least we have a sandbox. ca va

― dar1a g (dar1a g), Sunday, 11 February 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

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