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I think frak is kind of annoying, but I try to mentally translate it to "fuck", and every now and then someone will deliver it with the right amount of venom or slurring to make it work.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought "frag" originated during WWII or something.

TS: Frack v. cursing in Chinese

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I get that one. LOL FRAGGED U NUBS

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the sound of the words that bothers me most of all.

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I prefer the Chinese. It sounds more angry, and not just made-up. It could be made up for all I know, but at least I'm not sure it is.

xpost EXACTLY

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The Chinese gambit was the worst choice ever. Never ONCE did anyone sound convincing doing that.

XP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The only person I know who's used "frack" with this girl I was friends with in high school. It was kind of dumb. Just say "fuck" already.

I hate "grok."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

OH NOES LAURL!!!!!!

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I use FRACK all the FRACKIN time.

The only person I know who's used "frack" with this girl I was friends with in high school. It was kind of dumb.

You fracked up now, boy.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"They insist that women have done enough house work for their family and suffered a pain whenever they do a delivery or menses."

--paper on including women in Korea's required military service that currently only includes men.

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Why can't everyone just be polite like Data and Picard?????

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, who is cursing in Chinese?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Firefly/Serenity characters

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is doing a menses?

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

DAN: PENGWIN BEAK FITE!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I am doing a menses right now.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope you are not suffering a pain.

Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, so there's speaking in English, and then they suddenly break into Chinese?

I like it when movies are able to not curse and still not have fake cursing, either. Like Mamet's The Spanish Prisoner. I don't even know why it's rated PG. Maybe there's a "damn" that I'm forgetting.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, pretty much. They're usually kind of more drawn-out "oath" kind of swears, though.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

After years of wanting a pair, I bought some of these this morning:

http://www.dansko.com/images/shoe_single/large_806020202.jpg

I love them.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't been to a strip club since i was 25 or so i think. they're all pretty much awful. but when you're with a large group of friends and you know you're going to be out drinking for hours and hours going to a strip club is more fun than a regular bar. because there's always that one friend who tries to pick up the talent and then it's just hilarious. although when we went to new orleans in '98 we lost one of our friends the first night to a dancer named mercedes, he came back two days later.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I think the deal is that China took over so everyone is bilingual.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I love "grok". In fact, I use it frequently. It's a useful sort of word.

Maybe I'd like it better if it weren't so ugly. But also: how is it any more useful than "get" or "understand"?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Re strip clubs: I just don't think I'd be able to deal with being around other guys, with all the crass wink-wink-nudge-nudge that implies. Sexual attraction's more of a personal thing for me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

"[G]et" is sometimes a little Valley Girl for my tastes, and "understand" doesn't cover the idea that you and the other thing or person are on the same wavelength...I think there's an element of totality to "grok" that's missing from the other options, that you are more than just rationally comprehending something, but internalizing it, feeling it, whatever.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

can you guys email me any online resources useful for visiting chicago? I was hoping maybe for like some transit googlemaps hacks, etc? thankssss

jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

uh, john, there's nothing attractive about being at a strip club. for the most part the talent hates their clientel and their only goal is to make them part with as much of their money as possible.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Transit googlemap hack: http://www.tastypopsicle.com/maps/cta.asp

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

From wiki: "Grok... is a verb that connotes knowledge greater than that which can be sensed by an outside observer. It is an understanding beyond empathy and intimacy. In grokking, one experiences the literal capabilities and frame of reference of the subject."

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Kevin -- there's that, too. The whole thing seems kind of gross.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

JENNY IS A FASTER COPY PASTER THAN I

danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

john, yes, it is pretty gross, i'm not sure that i can consume enough alcohol to get me into a strip club now. at 24 things are different than 34.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I had a chance with one of the "Boys on the Bar" at a place in NO, but I figured I didn't really, so I didn't act on it. But now I think I did. But then again it was one of 2 bars that made up what they called the "financial district," so I may have had a chance with him if I was willing to pay for it.

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, I have grown very fond of you but can you please stop calling the women who work at strip clubs "the talent"? It's kind of grating in a "totally dehumanizing" kind of way.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

jon, message sent, let me know what else you need.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the talent at boy bars are WAY more likely to be interested in their clinetelle than at a titty bar.

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Ooops. Still not helping.

I think "talent" is no more degrading than "stripper." What else can you call the dancing women?

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Women?

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel, your explanation of "grok" makes sense. It still rubs me the wrong way somehow -- esp. knowing that its origins are sci-fi/geek. I will continue to use "get" and expressions like "I feel ya."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

STILL NOT HELPING.

I recuse myself from the discussion.

xposterooni

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny there are two groups of people who work at those types of establishments, "the talent" and "the staff". not all women who work at strip clubs are talent.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

JMC: And the world will go on.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Dancers?

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Tits McGee?

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

interrupting strip club conversation to report: just got my hair cut by Jenny-recommended stylist. it is my favorite haircut evah! Jenny, whenever your done with your finals, I'm buying you a drink.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be staying off the Brown Line @ Paulina.... I should probably get a book since I'll be solo a bit I think

jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i think "dancers" sounds kind of june taylor-ish but if that's what jenny would prefer i have no qualms with that.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

whenever you're done with your finals, that is. haircut-delirium-induced spelling lapse.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link


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