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That's Kellie Martin, formerly of "Life Goes On".

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

replacing 'cute/hott' with 'pretty/sexy' there are lots of (famous/sleb) women i think of as pretty but not sexy. Natalie Portman a prime example. Miranda Otto (altho the French accent in Human Nature is obv. uber-sexy). Keira Knightley also. Maybe even Kirsten Dunst. As for examples of 'sexy but not pretty*'...Lindsay Lohan, Fergie BEP, hell loads of porn actresses...this is all pretty dumb obvious two-way projection stuff of course.

*obv. we're talking relatively, and other people will totally disagree. and i wouldn't bother trying to establish the 'logic' behind any of it.

some come across as both - and i take my hat off to them accordingly.

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Boomer is hot? This totally does not compute. She's pleasant enough-looking, I'll grant, and I do in fact LIKE her, but HOT? I find her so affectless and inscrutable that nothing of her personality comes across in her face AT ALL, and feature-by-feature she is merely pleasant.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i HATE whimsy

This kind of blows my mind. NB I'm not big on cute pictures of kittens and so forth -- but then again I don't think of those as "whimsy" so much as kitsch or twee or whatever.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm realizing that for me, pretty/beautiful/handsome is in the features and hot/would crush again A+++ is in the personality and animation. Huh. Also, Horsehoe OTM: men can TOTALLY be beautiful, although a certain degree of fine-bonedness and definition of cheekbone is probably required.

Not to second-guess Lauren, but I read her "whimsy" as the "HER KOOKINESS WILL SAVE YOU"-kind of purposefully inexplicable dizzy girl thing.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Fair enough -- affected childlike-ness, that sort of thing. Which is annoying 95% of the time, and remarkably attractive when you're dealing with the 1 in 20 people who can pull it off (usually in a playful way that contrasts with their basic intelligence/maturity).

And, you know, one of the things I find magnetic about that picture I posted above is that her eyes look intent and intelligent. Earlier you wrote this:

I'm thinking that for me there's no sexual component, I don't want to get off with the cute object, I just want to take it in, make it mine forever

In a weird way this is true of my response too. As in, I don't look at that picture above and think "I'd like to get off with her"; it's more like, "I'd like to marry her, or someone who looked like that". There's a romantic component, but the sexual component is...it's in the future tense, somehow, and the main desire is for fusion, not ownership. But I'm a little atypical in that way, I think.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

boomer can be hot sometimes! y'know, when she squints her eyes and looks determined, i think. but i don't know, i think we have to get inside the mind of boys for this one, and inside there, boomer is hot.
my version would be:
handsome/rugged = adama
pretty boy = apollo
sexy = gaius
hot = gaeta
cute = chief

that was totally an excuse to think about battlestar for a minute

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahhh, sweet, sweet fusion. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

CUTE FUSION
xpost!
hahaha

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Kellie Martin is android-cute. Her designers rounded off every feature to be somewhat attractive, but entirely forgettable until the day she turns into The Terminator.

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

one of my favorite permutations of this is the handsome woman. I know someone who can be described no other way. I shall try to think of a celebrity example.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

angelica houston?

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

handsome/rugged = brett favre
pretty boy = tom brady
sexy = ???? halp? matt leinart?
hot = michael vick
cute = peyton manning

xpost celebrity example: Hillary Swank

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

SPEAKING OF FUSION: ROBYN, WHICH ONE OF US GETS THE BRAIN THIS EVENING?? I might need it for a while, are you writing anything important?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, she was the first that came to mind. she's a little pretty for a handsome woman, but she'll do till I think of someone better.

xpost: YES, Ally! god, thank you!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

handsome != horse-faced.

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

~~cute~~ doof = peyton manning

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Hillary Swank != horse-faced

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Kellie Martin is android-cute. Her designers rounded off every feature to be somewhat attractive, but entirely forgettable until the day she turns into The Terminator.

You really think so? I don't know, I think she's kind of funny-looking, especially in other pictures. But funny-looking in a way that works for me / her basic "thing" works for me.

xpost Katharine Hepburn?

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Annie Lennox

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

where does Christina Ricci fit in? She's not sexy. She's not cute. She's not ugly. She's not hot, pretty, etc..

Is she 'distinctive'?

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a huge crush on C. Ricci when I was 19. I think I thought of her as "cute" and "sexy."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

you can have it! i've been using it a lot lately! but tonight i am just going to go food shopping and watch the O.C.! mmm, vegetative state
xpost to l

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Matt Leinart is also a pretty boy, I think. prettier than Tom Brady. also pretty : Joey Harrington. I'm drawing a blank for sexy QBs...maybe Michael Vick has to do double duty?

xpost: Katharine Hepburn came close to being a handsome woman, but she's straight-up beautiful.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

handsome/rugged = Dan Dority
pretty boy = Sol Star
sexy = Seth Bullock
hot = Al Swearengen
cute = Dan Dority's funny-looking sidekick

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

president roslyn?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Christina Ricci has gone from "cute" to "theoretically hot but in reality kinda scary".

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

(Same for Brittany Murphy.)

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

katherine hepburn was really beautiful though - her personality would be the thing that makes her handsome

yeah, c ricci is another dimension of cute/sexy, it's kind of weird

more of the XPOST from me

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/img/castandcrew/actors/johnhawkes.jpg

pretty?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Do Ashton Kutcher and Tom Welling count as pretty boys?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

rugged/handsome = ?
pretty boy = Sydnor
sexy = Lester
hot = McNulty
cute = Bunk
pretty = Lt. Daniels

xpost - dude it's DEADWOOD. Who else is going to be pretty?

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom Welling is beautiful in that way that Angelina Jolie is beautiful: sort of pushing past human into alien territory.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

again, with roslyn it's a personality issue - when she's not presidented up, she's kind of beautiful and flowly. oh oh, i know - STRIKING

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Handome as applied to women requires a certain statue/gravitas/firmness of feature, I think? (Firmness as in...resolve/confidence, not as in lack of wrinkles/sagging).

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

oo! oo! nother pretty man in a western = Billy Zane(before he lost all his hair) in Tombstone

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, exactly, Laurel. Frances McDormand, too, maybe.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Err, stature. (XXXXP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

rugged/handsome = Caesar
pretty boy = Brutus
sexy = Titus Pullo
hot = Lucius Vorenus
cute = Mark Antony
pretty = Octavian

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That 70s Show is still the hottest cast on TV, and Laura Prepon is like the 4th hottest one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

y'know, i think Cillian Murphy might be the male equivalent to Christina Ricci, as far as these attractiveness labels go

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

because he kind of looks like an alien? he's prettier than Ricci, I think.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Cillian had the weird mix of pretty boy/Thunderbird-plastic in the batman flick

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Laura Prepon was #1 TV hottie until she went blonde during the seasons I didn't watch.

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

even though there's a 70% chance she's a Scientologist.

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Mila Kunis is about the most conventionally "hot" girl that I find compelling, probably because she has a pretty high cute/neotenous element. Definitely a straight-up sexual, not romantic or protective, attraction there.

xpost

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

milo totally otm
laura prepon = more hot with red hair, obv
xpost
yeah, alien looking, scary/cute/weird eyes

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.parecidosrazonables.com/cillian-murphy-tom-welling.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you for new word, lurker2421

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The patron saint of "hot, but not handsome or particularly cute" (though the big eyes do help):

http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/j/jeff_goldblum_2.jpg

xpost you're welcome, isn't it a great word?

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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