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Why are you wary of Men's Warehouse? They did me right, although you all know that I know nothing about fashion and don't care enough to make distinctions. But I think the suit I bought there looks good on me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

What's wrong with Men's Warehouse? Or H&M?

xpost

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that article, too, Jesse. Their whole series is nice, I remember having read it before. Also, I would like to go out sometime with a well-dressed man -- I'm pretty sure I never have -- but the balance, finding the balance between making sure you look sharp most of the time and, like, spending more time with your tailor than with ME, is so hard to find.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I want a place that will offer alterations. And a place that will not stuff your suit into a bag like H&M does (or did when Jenny bought a suit there). I don't know what might be wrong with MW, but I have a feeling about them--like they will just show me a suit and send me out the door.

I don't own any suits right now, so I want my only one to be as good/great as possible.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I got alterations at MW.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, H&M will have current styles and cuts, but quality is a serious issue with them. Tread carefully and check the linings and buttons and lapels to see that everything lies and hangs smoothly. And yeah, you need alterations! Pretty much no suit fits out of the box, as it were.

Men's Warehouse...worries me. I'm sure you can do okay there if you're really discerning...but I think they carry A LOT of schlock.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Difference: The staff at H&M are assholes. MW salesmen are classy and attentive.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick will be getting a suit at Christmas for DE VEDDING. His poppa will be helping him pick one out, so worst case scenario he'll look like Indiana Jones for the wedding.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure you can do okay there if you're really discerning

If I was discerning, I would not own a suit. My ignorance is precisely what allowed me to walk in and out of there in 15 minutes, and I felt amazing for having purchased a sharp-looking suit all by myself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Laurel:

I am kind of sad at how my last couple of dates went, sartorially speaking--both with regar to myself, and moreso my dates. Can anyone fucking try to dress up anymore?? (Granted the first guy was a loser, and the 2nd wore his working class status on his wrinkled threadbare sleeve and we went to a movie and coffee, respectively.)

I want to be a better-dressed person. But it's hard when you dress the same every day for work (as a waiter does) and when you don't really go anywhere that would require dressing up.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel is OTM about MW. And H&M.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, how do suits look like schlock? They're suits, for chrissakes! The point is that they make everyone look great!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan got his wedding suit at MW and they spent a lot of time on alterations. They were really nice, actually. Not snobby and he got a nice, all-purpose black suit + tie that sort of matched my dress.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, how do suits look like schlock? They're suits, for chrissakes! The point is that they make everyone look great!

Oh dear, here we go again.

I have confidence in my ability to be discerning, but I don't want to have to wade through crap that that MW asshole "GAHrantees" (talk about awful pronunciation).

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ "all suits look good"

http://www.mayerco.com/images/men/haspel_02a.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

(xp to Amanda) Yup, they were very friendly to me, too. I went there because I thought that was where people went to buy suits. It never occurred to me to go anywhere else.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Girls in NYC usually WAY outdress their boys...and it's kind of understandable, because I, too, am a sucker for a sharp-jawed punk rock dirtbag with the right evil grin and no shirts with buttons in his closet. But it's still a little sad, and it makes couples who dress to the same level TOTAL KNOCKOUTS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

John, read the article I posted and you will see.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, don't ask him to read the article, we'll only be arguing, I mean, talking about it all afternoon.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like to be outdressed. Just like I like to be just a little taller.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a law of diminishing returns, but it seems to me that just as with wine, in suits the range between terrible an acceptable is much wider than between acceptable and mouthwatering.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh dear, here we go again

lol @ "all suits look good"

I like that suit. Who is that, Gregory Peck?

John, read the article I posted and you will see.

I did read that article. It said don't wear a suit-jacket with jeans (yeah, duh), and it looked askance on single-button suits (okay, whatever), but other than that, I don't know what you're talking about.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

J0rdan, please send me contact INFORMACION por CAM. I want to ask him for ideas/help on playing in milwaukee.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that suit. Who is that, Gregory Peck?

Yeah. And I guess you're right -- there's a time and place for seersucker. And that time and place is when you're Gregory Peck. Or Matlock.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I will kick the shins of any sucka who says that my hubs looked schlocky on our wedding day.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean they ALL just look alike! They're fabric! Who cares if it's wool and polyester? They're both fabrics--how can they be different?

― Jaymcee (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't mess with the weasel.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

They're both fabrics--how can they be different?

You're making my day a little brighter. Really.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Post pictures of mouthwatering suits here.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ilovemoda.com/images/armani-three-button.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Look: I went to MW and knew I just wanted a basic black suit that I could wear for weddings. I didn't know if I wanted one button or two, so I tried both on and decided I liked two. I didn't want anything fancy, so I didn't look at anything fancy. Based on that article, it seems like "bad suits" are suits that are trying to be all trendy or embellished somehow, with odd cuts or weird fabrics, but that inevitably fall flat. But if you know you just want a good basic suit that fits you, then I don't know what's wrong with Men's Warehouse. If they have schlock there, I certainly wasn't looking for it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what I liked about NO? The fact that young heterosexual men -- hetero and homo alike -- could wear seersucker. And white linen. I loved White Linen Night when all the galleries opened their doors, NPR gave away fans, and many people wore white linen suits. You just can NOT do that in Chicago, even in the dog days of summer without looking like an old man or a douchebag.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/101/309563899_48845feb4c.jpg?v=0

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I have accepted the fact that when/if I purchase a new suit, it will have to be at the (Big &) TALL Store.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

After all this, I had better find a good suit.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse I know a great haberdasher in Oconomowoc.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel OTM. Why is that picture so hot? I can't quite figure it out.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

While we're on the subject, I'll just throw this out there: Fuck Pleated Pants.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

You just can NOT do that in Chicago, even in the dog days of summer without looking like an old man or a douchebag.

Right. Or Matlock.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

With a suit, a little tailoring goes a long way.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

MW kind of looks like XEB -- or they are at least the same physical type. It makes me messed up. I'd have liked to see that one dress awesomely during our association, with his build & looks he was CRYING OUT to be really, really sharp.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

XEB = Xander Berkeley, from Safe?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Good look, Mr. White!

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

OH WAIT I GET IT NOW.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Where is Oconomonwoc?

I am not very skilled at dressing myself. Someone should dress me for best results.

The guy who runs the Center in New Orleans wears a suit every single day. It makes him seem covetous of a social class that he understands only in terms of being "dressed up," while he ignores the importance of being appropriately dressed.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone should dress me for best results.

Totally. I still would LOVE to be Queer Eye'd.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

When it's warm enough, which is rare, I wear seersucker here in S.F.

Who is XEB?

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

The last person I dated, M. Who I have yet to get over, in any plausible sense.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what levels of douchebaggery I thereby achieve, however.

xpost to self

My condolences, Laurel.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I will do the personal shopper thing at Macy's once I save up some money.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

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