― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link
And I remember going into the communities and just talking to the people and preaching to them and did it for two years, and after that two years I realized something. People are tired of being preached to.
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself., Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link
A+++ WILL SLEEP WITH EXTENDED F@MILY @G@IN
― lk, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link
only took two years to find that out? god i wish i could play high stakes cards with someone like that.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Dirty Vicar (The Dirty Vicar), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Dirty Vicar (The Dirty Vicar), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link
The stats are from www.pro-football-reference.com.
Kordell Stewart Passing | Rushing |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| 1995 pit | 10 | 5 7 71.4 60 8.6 1 0 | 15 86 1 || 1996 pit | 16 | 11 30 36.7 100 3.3 0 2 | 39 171 5 || 1997 pit | 16 | 236 440 53.6 3020 6.9 21 17 | 88 476 11 || 1998 pit | 16 | 252 458 55.0 2560 5.6 11 18 | 81 406 2 || 1999 pit | 16 | 160 275 58.2 1464 5.3 6 10 | 56 258 2 || 2000 pit | 16 | 151 289 52.2 1860 6.4 11 8 | 78 436 7 || 2001 pit | 16 | 266 442 60.2 3109 7.0 14 11 | 96 537 5 || 2002 pit | 8 | 109 166 65.7 1155 7.0 6 6 | 43 191 2 || 2003 chi | 9 | 126 251 50.2 1418 5.6 7 12 | 59 290 3 || 2004 bal | 2 | 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 1 -1 0 || 2005 bal | 1 | 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 4 24 0 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| TOTAL | 126 | 1316 2358 55.8 14746 6.3 77 84 | 560 2874 38 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
Michael Vick | Passing | Rushing |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| 2001 atl | 8 | 50 113 44.2 785 6.9 2 3 | 29 300 1 || 2002 atl | 15 | 231 421 54.9 2936 7.0 16 8 | 113 777 8 || 2003 atl | 5 | 50 100 50.0 585 5.8 4 3 | 40 255 1 || 2004 atl | 15 | 181 321 56.4 2313 7.2 14 12 | 120 902 3 || 2005 atl | 15 | 214 387 55.3 2412 6.2 15 13 | 102 597 6 || 2006 atl | 11 | 150 292 51.4 1770 6.1 13 9 | 95 870 2 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| TOTAL | 69 | 876 1634 53.6 10801 6.6 64 48 | 499 3701 21 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Kordell Stewart Career
Total Games: 126Completions: 1316Attempts: 2358Percentage: 55.8Yards: 14746Average YD: 6.3TDs: 66INTs: 84
Michael Vick Career
Total Games: 69Completions: 876Attempts: 1634Percentage: 53.6Yards: 10801Average YD: 6.6TDs: 64INTs: 48
Vick is a better passer in TDs vs. INTs catagory, but their completion percentages/yards per completion are close. Vick is the better runner as you'd expect with a total of 3701 rushing yards vs. Stewart's 2874.
― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link
I still don't quite get wanting to pull the trigger on Grossman. I think Chicago's problem is their play calling. The Bears got greedy after having success going deep early in the year and have gone too many times to the well. They need to get more screens working, as that could crack things open a bit more for the running game and help the deep passing game. The problem is that Grossman has is like Eli Manning and Vick in that they are inconsistent throwing the short passes.
Vick's recievers are pretty cruddy, but he also seems to do a bit of the Farve thing for throwing some balls so damn hard they freaking bounce off the players. It is funny how a month ago Vick was turning into this superhuman QB and now he is flipping off the fans. Watching how Vick carries the ball scares me far more than him throwing the ball. I looked it up and MV fumbles are actually down this year, but everytime he runs palming the ball, I cringe.
Kordell had a couple of decent years. Stewart took alot of blame for those Steelers losses that were tied to their special teams doing stupid stuff. They lost a couple of big playoff games giving up returns for TDs and fumbling the ball away in bad moments. Slash wasn't all that, but he took more than his fair share of the blame. I got to think if Stewart would have stayed as Slash/WR, he might be still in the league and could be "Hines Ward" instead of a failed QB.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link
the canard i've been hearing lately about his lack of touch drives me apeshit too, cuz you will seriously see guys claiming that he's hurling nolan ryan fastballs on 2 yd dumpoffs even when it's demonstrably untrue. i dont wanna turn this into a capn save a vick thread (lol too late) but none of the dudes talking shit abt him ever want to own up to what they're actually thinking: they don't like him because he has braids and wears a do-rag. actually the entire 'he guns it too hard' thing is a perfect example of this, it's like some karl rove-ish master stroke of disinformation. brett favre's been breaking receivers' fingers for his entire career and nobody ever gave him any shit over it. Things I've heard said about MV (usually by herbish white people with suspect facial hair): he's too stupid to read defenses, he's a tattooed thug, he's a bad leader. and it's not just, like, Cletus Boogityfuck saying this shit, it's people in the public eye who aren't being called on it! (white) people look at him like they do Iverson, except Vick's assumed a role on his team much more commonly held by good ol' boys. and it's not like there aren't a lot of legitimate criticisms to be made of him (ball: meet turf!) it's when people say stuff like he's TOO STUPID to read defenses (as opposed to mensa candidates dan marino and brett favre???) that they reveal what they are actually talking about.
― aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link
can't argue with this tho :( also ppl forget that Vick is still 26 years old (one year older than eazy eli), so uh hey. sky's the limit!
"Stewart took alot of blame for those Steelers losses that were tied to their special teams doing stupid stuff."
haha that has been the story this year too. you could attribute most of their losses this year, besides Oakland and Baltimore, to special teams - specifically their inability to find a player, any player, who can field a punt. randle-el = the fulcrum upon which steelers success rested???
― aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link
total downer.
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― adam., Wednesday, 29 November 2006 03:25 (seventeen years ago) link
I think the Bucs are still on their victory lap. Old Chucky is not looking too happy these days. I personally do enjoy for watching some coaches get comeuppance. I'm still ticked about that crap roughing the QB call earlier this year pretty much handing Tampa their upset of the Bengals. I wonder how many games have had these flag football on the QB calls be key plays in the final outcome?
― earlnash, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link
But the kind of schemes that fit Vick's style of play don't seem to work consistently on the NFL level. Maybe the NFL game will change, but Vick may be past his prime at that point.
― Super-dope Cub, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Argh come on, I'm getting really sick of this argument. I don't personally think he's too stupid for any of it, just incredibly bad at throwing a ball (combo of the Eli inconsistency on the short + the Favre BREAK YA FINGAS YAAAAAAAAHH thing previously mentioned, you can't do BOTH of those with a bunch of shitty receivers and have me even care about you), but ffs everyone I know who thinks Vick is terrible or stupid likes Donovan McNabb and Warren Moon. The only thing revealed by such a statement is that some people just want their QBs to be QBs, not frigging RBs. Though the idea of just putting 11 RBs out there as your offense is pretty funny :D
― Allyzay Eisenschefter: Fiery HR Latin, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes., Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link
In fairness, he does hold every record that ever existed in the history of football. I'm not sure what that implies vis a vis intelligence cos he really does seem like a total dingbat.
The whole argument that anyone is too stupid to play QB is kind of a funny one to me, thinking about it. Montana is like the biggest advertisement for brain injury I've seen that is still walkin' and talkin' in society. The only people I can possibly even remotely think of in terms of this comparison is like, Manning or Troy Aikman? And the correct word for Manning is not "smart" but rather "obsessive compulsive bordering on Howard Hughes."
― Allyzay is a town of people, people who DIED, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay 'へ'凸, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue &White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay "Doris Lessing" Eisenschefter, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue &White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter Pop You To The Extreme is a name that is apparently "taken, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― TORMBORK, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.gorillamask.net/tecmobo.shtml
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link
well, see, what a (successful) quarterback has to do is RECOGNIZE those complex blitz schemes and adjust to them on the fly. so while the defensive player has all year to learn his team's plan the opponent has a week or so. if the qb can't make those adjustments you turn into drew bledsoe. who has a more powerful arm than either manning or brady and is just as accurate but he can't recognize and decide quickly enough.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost I'm pretty convinced one day Tom Brady is going to turn out to actually have been a serial killer.
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay 'へ'凸, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link
16) Atlanta Falcons (5-6)
It's like choosing up sides in a stickball game. On one side there's Jim Mora Sr., the coach's father, who agrees that Michael Vick is a "coach breaker." Captain of the other team is Vick himself, who shot the crowd the double-bird after he was booed. A recent entry on the Vick team is owner Arthur Blank, who told CBS's Tony Siragusa, by way of deflecting criticism from his QB, "I've got three No. 1 wide receivers and none of them can catch the ball." Then there are the TV experts such as Irvin who feel that Vick should "just be allowed to play the game," you know, as they do in the schoolyard. And on the other side, a whole bunch of stern faced types who say, no, quarterbacking is a trade to be learned, like glassblowing or metal working. Stick around. It's getting good.
32) Detroit Lions (2-9)
Someone sits in a little public address booth, giggling to himself, and when the visiting Dolphins' defense is introduced, he gets ex-Lion QBs Joey Harrington's name thrown in, to achieve the full flavor of the boos, and just to make the thing more nasty, he arranges it so that Billy Joel's "Piano Man" comes over the loud speaker. Harrington plays the piano. Now the Lions are in total denial. No one claims responsibility, of course, although the finger of guilt is being leveled at a guy called Bryan Bender, their Director of Broadcast and Production. What a team! What an operation! I wish I could move this team down to 35th spot or so.
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link