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― Mr. Que (Party with me Punker), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 7 December 2006 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 December 2006 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 December 2006 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link
Lilly's agent, Larry O'Brien, made the announcement at baseball's winter meetings.
Lilly, a left-hander, crossed the Blue Jays off his list Wednesday and had narrowed his possible destinations to the Cubs and New York Yankees, O'Brien told ESPN.com.
O'Brien planned to meet with Yankees general manager Brian Cashman on Wednesday night. It was not clear if that meeting took place.
Toronto continues to pursue free agent Gil Meche as a possible No. 3 starter behind Roy Halladay and A.J. Burnett.
Lilly, 30, has a career 59-58 record in eight major-league seasons with Montreal, the Yankees, Oakland and Toronto. He went 15-13 with a 4.31 ERA for the Blue Jays last season.
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Thursday, 7 December 2006 01:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 December 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm starting to think that JP was a prophet after all.
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Thursday, 7 December 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Gleeman's NBC.com Winter Meetings blog suggests that Schmidt screwed himself out of buxxx by settling for "Meche / Lilly" money w/ that Dodgers contract. Let's remember the dude was signed for $47M over 3 years. WTF kind of world is it where GIL MECHE gets over $15M?
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link
I like paying Loaiza 7M/yr the best. No one on the A's boards think that was dumb deal now.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Lilly strikes $40M deal with Cubs | Hendry has angioplasty
any correlation?
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Jays lose Meche to Royals
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link
wtf are the Royals even doing spending money?
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― g000blar (g00blar), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
They still get money ya know? What are they supposed to do with it?
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― nathan explosion (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link
The Twins have spoken with the agents for righthander Sidney Ponson, a career 80-96 pitcher who was 4-5 with a 6.25 ERA last season in stints with the Yankees and Cardinals, both of whom released him. He was 17-12, 3.75 in 2003 with Baltimore and San Francisco. The Twins likely would sign him to a minor league deal with an invitation to spring training.
AAAAGH AAAGH AGH
― nathan explosion (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link
We need all that $$$ for quality pitching, which apparently involves helping Dennys Reyes feel better about his weight by signing someone even fatter.
Then again I didn't understand why they didn't try for Thomas last year either.
Frank Thomas + turf = problems.
― nathan explosion (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Tell JP that *cough*.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Any GM that signed a player to a bad contract prior to this offseason looks like a genius.
― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
1) Invest in their farm system.2) Keep away from the mid-level starting pitcher free agent market.3) Rent the services of multiple bodyguards for Alex Gordon.4) Bring Rush Limbaugh back into the fold as the Grand Royal With Cheese.5) Have Tony Muser killed, then brought back to life as a zombie.6) Have Undead Tony Muser kill Allard Baird.7) Turn Mike Sweeney into sharkbait.8) Post Angel Berroa's ROY trophy on eBay.9) Buy Bob Hamelin & Ken Harvey a Monte Cristo each.
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― thebingo (thebingo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― ^@^ (map), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link
at least he's still better than GORD Ash
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Wells for Penny, Kemp and let's say Billingsley? I mean, you'd pretty much have to take that deal if you're JP.
― Michael (Oakland Mike), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link
?!
wanna compare ash's draft history to jp's?
― ^@^ (map), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link
ILX COME BACK WE MISS YOU (and I have rocks in my ass).
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link
While with the Cubs, Alfonseca was thrown out of a game on September 2, 2003, for hitting an umpire with his stomach.
WAHT.
― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 December 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link
In other news, surprising no one, Bonds re-signs with Giants.
― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Friday, 8 December 2006 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link
jp's highlights so far: russ adams, david bush, aaron hill and adam lind.
admittedly it's not exactly fair to compare 95-01 guys to those from 02-05, but that's still a pretty damning dropoff.
― ^@^ (map), Friday, 8 December 2006 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― jelky (jergins), Friday, 8 December 2006 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― aidsy (aidsy), Friday, 8 December 2006 06:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 December 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link
OK, this is silly. Young didn't come up in the J's org, and the last nine names are unproven/fouth OF/burnouts (koch), with the possible exception of Blake. The Jays were a shittier team when Ash ran the club, and therefore they could draft earlier and get more can't-miss prospects. It didn't take a genius to pick Vernon Wells fifth overall. Meanwhile, we won't know how JP's picks (which included a lot of impressive Sept 2006 callups) turn out for a few years yet.
Gord Ash banked on rejects from last-place Pittsburgh (Carlos Garcia, Orlando Merced, yeah WHO DEY) to push the team over the edge from mediocrity, and signed 190-year old Ruben Sierra because he didn't think Shawn Green was ready for the big leagues (even though it was his third full season with the club). His best trade was Plesac-Tony Batista, which looked like an absolute steal at the time but then again, only a couple of years later, Batista was gone and Plesac was resigned.
The biggest transaction that occured during Ash's tenure was the free-agent signing of Clemens, and he had nothing to do with it (club president Paul Beeston did all the work).
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Well, they replaced Meche for a lot less than $11 million, and I'm not sure he's any worse!
― Michael (Oakland Mike), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael (Oakland Mike), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link
Greg Spira, sabermetrician and founder of the Internet Baseball Awards, died this week at 44.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 30 December 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Carlos Quentin to the Padres for two prospects: Simon Castro and Pedro Hernandez.
Simon Castro, a 23-year-old right-hander, was ranked as the Padres third best prospect at this time last year by Baseball America. Neither he nor Hernandez, a 22-year-old lefty, made the top ten this year, though.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 31 December 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
middle-aged request: mention all teams involved, cuz right now I have no idea who Carlos Quentin is.
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 January 2012 08:09 (twelve years ago) link
dude was (v. briefly) the white sox's next superstar iirc
― mookieproof, Sunday, 1 January 2012 08:28 (twelve years ago) link
dude with good power and decent patience who was #5 in the mvp voting in '08, good year in '11, two mediocre years in between. should become a nice, forgettable 40 doubles per year guy in petco.
― omar (son), Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
He probably would have finished higher in '08 MVP voting if he hadn't missed around 30 games near the end of the season (temper-related wrist fracture).
― Andy K, Monday, 2 January 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link