at least he's still better than GORD Ash
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Wells for Penny, Kemp and let's say Billingsley? I mean, you'd pretty much have to take that deal if you're JP.
― Michael (Oakland Mike), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link
?!
wanna compare ash's draft history to jp's?
― ^@^ (map), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link
ILX COME BACK WE MISS YOU (and I have rocks in my ass).
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link
While with the Cubs, Alfonseca was thrown out of a game on September 2, 2003, for hitting an umpire with his stomach.
WAHT.
― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 December 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link
In other news, surprising no one, Bonds re-signs with Giants.
― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Friday, 8 December 2006 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link
jp's highlights so far: russ adams, david bush, aaron hill and adam lind.
admittedly it's not exactly fair to compare 95-01 guys to those from 02-05, but that's still a pretty damning dropoff.
― ^@^ (map), Friday, 8 December 2006 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― jelky (jergins), Friday, 8 December 2006 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― aidsy (aidsy), Friday, 8 December 2006 06:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 December 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link
OK, this is silly. Young didn't come up in the J's org, and the last nine names are unproven/fouth OF/burnouts (koch), with the possible exception of Blake. The Jays were a shittier team when Ash ran the club, and therefore they could draft earlier and get more can't-miss prospects. It didn't take a genius to pick Vernon Wells fifth overall. Meanwhile, we won't know how JP's picks (which included a lot of impressive Sept 2006 callups) turn out for a few years yet.
Gord Ash banked on rejects from last-place Pittsburgh (Carlos Garcia, Orlando Merced, yeah WHO DEY) to push the team over the edge from mediocrity, and signed 190-year old Ruben Sierra because he didn't think Shawn Green was ready for the big leagues (even though it was his third full season with the club). His best trade was Plesac-Tony Batista, which looked like an absolute steal at the time but then again, only a couple of years later, Batista was gone and Plesac was resigned.
The biggest transaction that occured during Ash's tenure was the free-agent signing of Clemens, and he had nothing to do with it (club president Paul Beeston did all the work).
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Well, they replaced Meche for a lot less than $11 million, and I'm not sure he's any worse!
― Michael (Oakland Mike), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael (Oakland Mike), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr. Que (Party with me Punker), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Friday, 8 December 2006 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Saturday, 9 December 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael (Oakland Mike), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― g000blar (g00blar), Saturday, 9 December 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― g000blar (g00blar), Saturday, 9 December 2006 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― nathan explosion (natepatrin), Saturday, 9 December 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Discreet.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― dR m (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 10 December 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Sunday, 10 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh: the Tigers just signed JOSE MESA.
― Meche Madness (Andy_K), Monday, 11 December 2006 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link
Negative spin expected tomorrow morning.
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― bliss (blass), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 04:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link
i was intrigued by the lowkey signings of ken phelps and j.r. house, but the orgy of relief pitching, the signing of bako and payton...yuck.
i actually think the wright deal wasn't too bad. oh, well.
if they can swing rodrigo lopez for marcus thames, i'll regain a little confidence in flanaquette.
― j.q. higgins, Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah, yeah, probability that Gagne's arm falls off = 75%
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link