magic: the gathering poll

so it gains counters by looking at the other player's cards? and can it take damage equivalent to the number of counters or something?

right - if you do the first ability, you add two. if you do the third, you subtract one. when a player attacks you, they can now "attack" Jace, and for each damage it takes it loses a counter

so absurd

the funniest price spike was definitely Necropotence, a card that nobody wanted because A) it had way too many words on it and was really confusing, and B) players hated paying life and didn't really care about card advantage, then some guys started winning tournaments with it and everyone realized "wait, this card basically says you can draw as many cards as you want, that's really good" as it jumped from $5 to like $25

yeah that was really the first era of higher-level analysis w/r/t playing dynamics. after that the mirage era prosperous bloom deck really took the game somewhere else - before that you couldn't imagine a deck that sophisticated that actually functioned and wasn't just for fun.

my friend has most of the mox gems and every og dual land in both alpha/beta and unlimited and when we first playing i couldnt believe how much they were worth. his arent in perfect condition or anything cuz he played with most of them but the prices for old rare magic cards are o_O

also going back but i object to equipment more on game flavor than mechanics, some of the actual cards are p rad, i just dont like how rpg-ish it is, i guess? tbh my real problem is just the too slick and heavy card art and the stupid sci fi dystopia concept

the sci-fi dystopia stuff was just the setting for one block though (last year's)

the new one they just started is a sort of colonial/gothic horror theme, v. different

I think the problem is there's this idea that you always have to give people something fresh and different and inevitable you're gonna run into diminshing returns w/ new ideas that can fit within what 'works' within the dynamics of mtg

I dunno, the Time Spiral block seemed to indicate that they aren't even close. Basically the "theme" of the set was the game itself, so a bunch of cards would reference older cards, and old mechanics like flanking and shadow came back, plus each pack had a random card out of a set of old cards throughout the game's history, with the old art and card face and everything, and were all legal to play even if they were horribly out of flavor. Then Planar Chaos came along as was like this "alternate reality" of magic, where white had burn and green had card draw. And Future Sight blew the doors off everything, adding another new card face, like a dozen new keyword mechanics, a bunch of cards that did things no other card had done before, cards that made no sense under current rules, and a card that referenced Planeswalkers even though they hadn't been printed yet. The whole block seemed like it was a clear "jump the shark" moment for the game but they handled it really well and demonstrated that there was a lot of design space left.

if you have a moment just revel in the bizarreness of this set, where like half the cards seem like outliers:

http://mtgsalvation.com/future-sight-spoiler.html

I'd like to try out cockatrice if someone is free and bored sometime in the next few hours

this is pretty entertaining

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_QYXXhXthM

haha I feel 30% draw to that 70% repulsed

"an unstoppable army of infinite fairies"

And I was wondering why Kraftwerk's 'Autobahn' was being used for background music, but I guess that Ralf is a serious Magic player. Or maybe Florian is.

I thought it was just classic geek rock

oh wow sad i missed all the good discush in this thread

at the height of my powers i was playing a p aggressive green/white deck that did well for me at middle school but was consistently getting my ass kicked when i went to HEAD GAMES or the other comic shop in my town, the name of which i cant remember, but which had like a super extensive hentai collection

thing is i mostly played some combination of red/green/white aggro/beatdown decks but i always really wanted to a blue control kind of guy. story of my life i guess.

btw i had a pretty big though not distinguished collection of magic cards when i stopped playing, and i gave them to my brother to sell to the shop in town, promising him a 50/50 split or something, and then for some unfathomable reason he buried them in our backyard? wish i still had those cards, or at least some money.

wait are they still there? you should go find them

also you should play w/ me online

theyre in a cardboard box at the foot of the apple tree, no joke. but i am 90% sure theyre like completely demolished

I guess if a magic card tree was gonna grow it woulda happened by now

how do i play online

http://www.cockatrice.de

dl this program, it's pretty easy to install

download it! also other people itt should. I really want to play tonight :(

not tonight, maybe tomorrow, i got a hot date w/ john le carre

boo okay

I accept non-max opponents btw

so i play this game. less since we've moved, but i've got a few decks -- fat packs from all the latest sets...

um. iatee, if this program works for the mac, i will play you

it appears that there is a mac version!

i'm loading it right now.

do i need to download decks to get this to work?

no, we make decks, tho there might be some somewhere if we want to use those?

let's bring this to gchat = my real first name w/ an extra e in front

lol i know i didn't play at all last time we did this but i just dl'd cockatrice...this is really easy to use for deckbuilding!

I actually liked mws better for deckbuilding but this is wayyyy less buggy / 100x easier to setup

I'm gonna download the hell out of this Cockatrice

hey iatee, i msg'd you my gmail name if you mind adding me. i'm trying to get cockatrice working but it's a little confusing

if you don't mind

ya I added you, I can prob help you if you're stuck

ok i got this going and made a deck in 5 mins. anyone want to play tomorrow night, 8 or 9 ish?

ya most likely can! this is pretty easy to play and setup the only drawback is the deck builder

cool i'll check in on this thread tomorrow. what don't u like about the deckbuilder?

it's hard to filter cards by sets...or really at all and there's no sealed generator. we just put in some old world championship decks.

yeah you would have to do the filtering in gatherer and then just pull the cards you wanted in cockatrice i guess. a sealed generator would be nice

everything else is better than mws tho. anyway I'm glad people are up for games again.

you can generate sealed decks using this thing: http://ccgdecks.com/sealed_gen.php

tho i'm not sure they have all sets

lol I tried that already it kinda sucks

are you on a mac? I think there are some you can dl

yeah i am on a mac

hmmm I'm sure we'll figure it out

can also just pick cool premade decks

yeah i whipped up a deck based on one of my old irl decks

i want 2 fuc w/this but this week is crazy busy for me

i'll get in on this at some point. what format/sets do you guys want to use? you gotta limit me or i'm gonna be coming at you with Knight of the Reliquary

well my comfort zone consists of everything through weatherlight but i'm adaptable

i would love to play some innistrad w/ whoever -- maybe draft?