Pazz and Jop is dead; long live Jackin' Pop

scott walker is metal as fuck

Matos, have you given any thought to a web based home for this poll? It is important to have the results preserved for perpetuity and it'd be really cool if all the voting data were available so people could play with the data. I seem to remember someone on ILM tallying the female critics votes....

Answer:

Which is why we're proud to announce the Idolator Jackin' Pop Critics Poll. Edited by Michaelangelo Matos--a Seattle-based music critic and author of the 33 1/3 book Sign O' The Times--Jackin' Pop will maintain the Voice's thoughtfully anarchic approach to music criticism, merging it with the technological reach of Gawker Media.

Gawker media / idolator will present the results - it's surely up to matos to co-ordinate with the web monkeys at gawker on how to do this in a similar User Experience to previous VV P & J websites.

HI DERE

http://www.furia.com/page.cgi?type=twas&id=twas0506b

I think my point was that something this important needs a proper web presence and not just shoehorned into a MoveableType blog.

Well, fuck 'em.

waht? This poll isn't being conduced online, only reported.

not a blog, a flexible information presentation.

not a blog, a flexible information presentation.

That does not make any sense. What's more "flexible information presentation" than a blog? Would you like the results to be written on a slinky?

xpost I like the name, too. The whole point of it is kinda that Pazz and Jop was also a terrible name.

Something with a database backend, obviously. The Pazz and Jop polls list the albums and who voted for them, along with critics and what albums they voted for -- all as static content pages. This could very easily be done dynamically or at least programatically to generate the pages instead of using static content. That also opens it up to showing which albums critics that voted for album X were also likely to vote for and create a basis for analyzing trends all within the main site.

It may be a small gain since the majority of people don't care and like the same lists as a print version, but the ILM types and statistical obsessives would love this shit. A few people always end up doing something similar anyway, although if it's on Idolator's site they get more ad impressions.

OTM

I'm really of the school of throwing everything in a database for mining later, though.

o. nate otm.

Real curious to see where the '05 rollover votes put this in Pazz & Jop.

5. Slum Village - Fantastic Vol. 1

It's surprising how this passed by with little notice.

Charles Mingus, Music Written for Monterey 1965 Not Heard . . . Played in Its Entirety at UCLA
Van Hunt, On the Jungle Floor
Mary J. Blige, The Breakthrough
E-40, My Ghetto Report Card
Tom Ze, Estudando o Pagode
Andrew Hill, Time Lines
Kelis, Kelis Was Here
Ghostface Killah, Fishscale
Basement Jaxx, Crazy Itch Radio
Lily Allen, Alright, Still

Singles/Tracks

Arctic Monkeys, I Bet You Look Good on the Dance Floor
Lupe Fiasco, Kick, Push
Morrissey, Human Being
OK Go, A Million Ways
Pipettes, Your Kisses Are Wasted on Me
Prince, Black Sweat
Rihanna, S.O.S.
Spank Rock, Rick Rubin
Young Jeezy, My Hood
Neil Young, Let's Impeach the President

Reissues

Journey Into Paradise: The Larry Levan Story
A Tom Moulton Mix
The Tommy Boy Story, Vol. 1
What It Is! Funky Soul and Rare Grooves
Jamaica to Toronto: Funk Soul & Reggae 1967-1974

Artists

Andrew Hill
Mary J. Blige
Tom Moulton
Os Mutantes
Jamie Lidell

my idolator list:

beach house, beach house
girl talk, night ripper
liars, drums not dead
yyys, show yr bones
clipse, hhnf
blow, paper tv
rapture, pieces of the people
supersystem, million microphones
camp lo, fort apache: the mixtape
think about life, think about life

lcd soundsystem, 45:33
snowden, like bullets
delorean, time breaks off
t.i., what you know
beach house, master of none
the clipse, wamp wamp
fiery furnaces, benton harbor
gnarls barkley, crazy
justin timberlake, my love
midlake, roscoe

ray barreto, acid
karen dalton, in my own time
tortoise, a lazarus taxon
pavement, wowee zowee
willie colon, el malo

1. T.I. - "What You Know"
2. Grizzly Bear - "Knife"
3. Young Dro - "Shoulder Lean"
4. Fergie - "London Bridge"
5. E-40 - "Tell Me When To Go"
6. The Pack - "Vans"
7. The Clipse ft. Pharell - "Mr Me Too"
8. Busta Rhymes ft. Mary J. Blige, Missy Elliot, Rah Digga, Lloyd Banks, Papoose and DMX - "Touch It (Remix)"
9. Shawnna - "Gettin' Some"
10. Kill The Vultures - "Moonshine"

1. Tropicalia
2. Big Apple Rappin': The Early Days Of Hip-Hop Culture In New York City 1979-1982
3. American Hardcore: The History Of American Punk Rock 1980-1986
4. Jean-Claude Vannier - L'Enfant Assassin des Mouches
5. Harvey Milk - Courtesy And Goodwill Towards Men

1. Prurient
2. T.I.
3. Grizzly Bear
4. P.O.S.
5. Ecstatic Sunshine

1. Panic! At the Disco - I Write Sins Not Tragedies
2. Nelly Furtado ft. Timbaland - Promiscuous
3. T.I. - What You Know
4. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy
5. CSS - Let's Make Love and Listen to Death From Above
6. Sonic Youth - Incinerate
7. Justin Timberlake - My Love
8. Hot Chip - Boy From School
9. The Killers - When You Were Young
10. Lupe Fiasco - Kick Push

[No votes for reissues: I only heard a couple and they didn't seem worth voting for.]

1. Timbaland
2. Joanna Newsom
3. James Murphy
4. Owen Pallett
5. Gnarls Barkley

ah well, I forgot Timbaland, too, so it'll hardly be my biggest regret.

1. Amerie, That's What U R
2. The Fray, Over My Head (Cable Car)
3. Justin Timberlake feat. Timbaland, SexyBack
4. Lily Allen, LDN
5. Erase Errata, Another Genius Idea From Our Government
6. LL Cool J feat. Jennifer Lopez, Control Myself
7. Gui Boratto, Like You (Supermayer Remix)
8. Mat Kearney, Nothing Left to Lose, Promiscuous
9. Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland,
10. Surkin, Radio Fireworks

1. V/A, American Primitive, Vol. 2
2. V/A, Good For What Ails You: Music of the Medicine Shows 1926-1937
3. V/A, The House That Trane Built: Story of Impulse Records
4. The Dead C., Vain, Erudite and Stupid: Selected Works 1987-2005
5. John Peel and Sheila, The Pig's Big 78s - A Beginner's Guide

1. Ornette Coleman
2. Timbaland
3. Justin Timberlake
4. Robert Christgau
5. Fergie

singles:
the pipettes "pull shapes"
t.i. "what you know"
beyonce "irreplaceable"
lil jon "snap yo fingers"
my chemical romance "welcome to the black parade"
beyonce "ring the alarm"
amy winehouse "rehab"
webstar/young b. "chicken noodle soup"
basement jaxx "take me back to your house"
chamillionaire/krayzie bone "ridin"

(i guess i liked the kelis/nina n./nellie m. albums more than most people did. and i think lady sov's very good album is being unduly overlooked just because we all heard the songs a year or two ago. or whatever. for reissues i put down all fania stuff; if i'd thought about it longer i would've included this heat and the pretenders. i also feel bad for leaving the dixie chicks off the singles list, cuz i did really like that single.)

1. The Rapture, Pieces of the People We Love
2. Mastodon, Blood Mountain
3. Booka Shade, Movements
4. J Dilla, Donuts
5. Ghostface Killah, Fishscale
6. v/a, Mary Anne Hobbs Presents the Warrior Dubz
7. The Coup, Pick a Bigger Weapon
8. Clipse, Hell Hath No Fury
9. E-40, My Ghetto Report Card
10. Comets on Fire, Avatar

1. Escort, Starlight (Darshan Jesrani Parks Dept. Dub)
2. Justice, We Are Your Friends (Lee Cabrera's Lower East Side Mix)
3. Dondolo, Dragon (Shit Robot "Fire Breathing" Mix)
4. Gnarls Barkley, Crazy
5. T.I., What You Know
6. Termanlogy, Watch How it Go Down
7. Too $hort, Blow the Whistle
8. Ne-Yo, Get Down Like That
9. Quiet Village Project, Circus of Horrors
10. P.O.S., Safety in Speed (Heavy Metal)

1. v/a, A Tom Moulton Mix
2. v/a, Big Apple Rappin'
3. v/a, Journey Into Paradise: the Larry Levan Story
4. v/a, What It Is!
5. v/a, Jamaica to Toronto

1. J Dilla
2. Timbaland
3. Ornette Coleman
4. Ghostface Killah
5. Oakland, CA

I SEE MYSELF AS THE HOLY RESURRECTION OF PUN

i guess this is kinda true, between these and the Blaq Poet cd he's bringing it right now.

FRIEND AND ALLY.

That was when Clipse and Ghostface still had legitimate commercial upside and so didn't need to aggressively market to the indie kidz and associated publications.

it did, yeah. but i'll speak up for whatever minority of us there are (maybe just me) who thought that was the overrated ghost album. all my years of listening to supreme clientele never made me like it as much as i liked fishscale the first time through. i even held off buying fishscale because of my suspicion of ghost-hyping. so, you know. milage varies etc.

Quite true all around. Now let me tell you how great the new Cure album will be.

I really enjoy [i]Hell Hath No Fury[/i] and I've yet to see a review that ain't trippin balls (Ethan's "Mobb Deep with more backpackerish lyrics" dis is actually the best description of why it's great that I've read!)

waht

thanks for the tunes. that's a real cool idea. i'm digging the mixtapes.

-- deej

coulda been worse