The Jam reform!!

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...but without Paul Weller
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6376477.stm

pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I've tried to think of a more ludicrous "group reforms but without key member" zing, but I think The Jam without Weller might be the most ridiculous comeback possible.

Not that I give a toss either way about the boring gits.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

NIN w/o Reznor would be a good laugh.

unfished business (Scourage), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Time for that Nirvana reunion.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Public Image Unlimited!

David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay that's a good one but I've always assumed NIN was a one-man band, so for this game they don't count.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

You'd figure Grohl and Novoselic would be entertaining, tho. And PIL certainly had enough other good members to be worth watching.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

You'd figure Grohl and Novoselic would be entertaining, tho.

Especially if they had no guitarist and just did all the songs Lightning Bolt style instead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

That would be wunnerful, yes. I'm sure they'll play backup for Francis Bean sometime within the next 10 years anyway, god help us.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

There's quite an obvious one but I'll leave it to Ned to say. Suffice to say that they may have written his favourite album...

unfished business (Scourage), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess a big thing here is that Weller notoriously left The Jam cos the other pair were too lumpen. If they'd just decided to form a new band together there would be less of the tearjerking whiff of Creme Brulee about the whole thing.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Rick Buckler has been touring with a jam tribute band anyway.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

?? lumpen? foxton had mad ennergettik bass parts, not boring rock plod at all!

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

David Van Day's The Jam now, please.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think ripping off "Taxman" makes you Bootsy Collins.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

copying bootsy collins isn't the only way to not plod, either

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

okay i'm listening to girl on the phone on my ipod right now...foxton is way motown actually.

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm being unnecessarily mean, I know. And Foxton (and Buckler) sounds fine within the context of that band, but I don't think either of them are very exciting and trying to launch a comeback with that name but without the main songwriter feels, at the least, dodgy to me.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

oh dude the whole concept of this reunion is mad tarded! (don't get me wrong)....i just thought they were a pretty nice pop/rock band! good backing for weller.

when i think "lumpen" i guess i think of stuff like oasis's rhythm section, not the jam.

i guess this is sort of the UK equivalent of a replacements reunion w/o paul westerburg? (ha both Paul W's even!)

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Lumpen's in the ear of the beholder, true. I think there were suggestions from several quarters when The Jam split up that Buckler, at least, wasn't up to playing in the style Weller wanted to go with. I like Style Council better anyway, but that's probably down to over-familiarity with The Jam's stuff as much as anything.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i should hear style council. i'm not even that huge of a jam fan anyway, but i love the greatest hits i have.

i dunno, you gotta admit foxton had more junk in his trunk than coldplay or travis!!!

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

oh also i have setting sons, which is cool too.

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe foxton & buckler could hook up with merton mick

mark coleman (lovebug ), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.noblepr.co.uk/Press_Releases/live_nation/from_the_jam.htm

pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

does it have something to do w/Weller recently performing Jam songs?

mark coleman (lovebug ), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/news/the-jam/26537

pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps someone could link to some other news articles which confirm this momentous ne...oh, wait.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

"Speaking about the absence of Weller, drummer Rick Buckley said: "Paul Weller has a fantastic solo careers and is one of the UK's most talented songwriters. Paul is always welcome to join us for the reunions, but until then, we've got a new tour and a new album to do.""

Funny, I'm sure believe Mr. Buckler hasn't always been quite so warm and generous in his comments about Mr. Weller....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

they should tour w/the new cars and rundgren can sing for both groups!

bliss (blass), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

There should be a law against reforming a band without their original frontman and creative brain.

Geir Hongro (geirhong), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

What about if it's just a brain? In a jar?

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually I think Ray Manzarek tried that in the late 70s.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Especially if they had no guitarist and just did all the songs Lightning Bolt style instead.

The Watt/Hurley set at ATP a couple years back was just about that.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 19 February 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, they could just get the weller vocal tracks off Polydor and tour with a cassette player upfront!

M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Paul is always welcome to join us for the reunions, but until then, we've got a new tour and a new album to do.

I like how they make "a new tour and a new album" sound like a pressing obligation despite the 20+ year interim.

m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link

it's at times like this i like to remember an old NME "thrills" article that called him "dick suckler". mind, even that's not as funny as the basic idea of these two knob-ends going on tour. fuck me ragged.

the only way this could possibly be half-interesting would be if they actually went out and JUST DID THE BASS AND DRUM PARTS and nobody played anything else. and that wouldn't be interesting so much as unusually stupid.

this is just wrong.

i'm taking it too seriously, amn't i?

grimly fiendish (simon), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Think they'll do "Smithers-Jones"?

m1cc1o (m1cc1o), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

This will of course not be as disastrous as Queen without Freddie Mercury. But it is still a very, very, very bad idea.

Geir Hongro (geirhong), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 03:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"Think they'll do "Smithers-Jones"?"

Shouldn't "Smithers-Jones" be considered a Stiff Little Fingers song rather than a Jam song by now?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 09:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i think they're better off without that cunt weller.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

They should do a "be Paul Weller" lottery for each song at each gig.

Apart from "Smithers-Jones" and "Don't tell them you're sane" that is.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"They should do a "be Paul Weller" lottery for each song at each gig."

Especially Paul Weller gigs.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

You been to one?

Everyone sings along like it's one big 'all together now'

M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 09:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"You been to one?"

Not while I still have my strength.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 09:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"Rick Buckley"...I love it. Does this mean that Bruce "I'm A Freak" Foxton will be lending his sonorous baritone to exciting new interpretations of Tim and Jeff's legacy?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Jake Burns should do the vocals

Soukesian (Soukesian), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Presumably Tracie was unavailable.

Coming soon: The Still Council, with Mick Talbot and Someone Out Of Galliano.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

In view of the fact that Bruce Foxton's replacement in SLF is apparently Ali McMordie, I can't help but wonder whether Bruce he quit SLF in order to do this, or whether he's doing this because he was kicked out of SLF.

I wonder if Mr. Grout or Dr. C remember when Mr. McMordie was a member of Reading band Friction Groove with a bunch of former members of Between Pictures?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh, I even remember the advert for the bass vacany in that band:

"Bass player wanted, apply Martin Rushent Genetic Studios, reading (0734 xxxxxx)"

They got signed to Atlantic on the strength of the Ali McMordie connection. Irony: they wouldn't have signed SLF but they would because "ooh, famous bass player" sindrome.

(I won a copy of Timebomb at a "Carribean Club" local bands night (which was packed to the rafters, this was really big event! MB Hi-Power blew away all comers! And other more Reading nostalgia coming soon to a thread near you! a wopbaomaloobop.)

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 10:08 (seventeen years ago) link


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