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Anyone in the sandbox CARE??? This place is so freakin' boring when the main board is down.

I pulled out Feeding The Flame...it's one of those albums that creeps up on you. I've had Epic Garden Music on CD forever, too...but somehow never liked that one as much as FTF. I don't remember what I thought of Mirror Test if I heard any of it, but I read their line up changed a lot for that. Shit I wonder if they're on You Tube!

Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Damnit! They're not on You Tube.

Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Midnight was a great label.... :-(

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Sunday, 18 February 2007 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Alls I knows about Midnight Music is the Wolfhounds, King Of The Slums, Robyn Hitchcock and the Popguns. Know anything else that's good? And what's up with the Sad Lovers and Giants? What are their good tunes?

everything (everything1967), Sunday, 18 February 2007 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Well you see the thing about Sad Lovers & Giants, though I love them in their own way is...they're one of those bands where you don't necessarily remember the songs after they're over, but you like them just fine when they're playing. Anyway...I will say that the song "In Flux" was one that stuck out enough in my head that made me pull out Feeding the Flame in the first place.

They are very melancholy. And mellow. I can't help but think folks who like the Church or the Chameleons or The Sound or Comsat Angels would like them.

And also: King of the Slums. It has been a billion years since I've heard any King of The Slums and I have meant to remedy that for awhile now, so yeah, that has to be done ASAP.

P.S. POPGUNS RULE

Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link

one of my favorite bands (and labels), and one - like Dif Juz or EiG - about which i'm so passionate that i'm not sure what to say! for my money, they're just beyond criticism or even comment. album by album, SLAG are so consistent, almost to the point of sameiness. if you like one song, you'll probably like others. i find their sound irresistible, just the perfect blend of the Chameleons, the Comsats and the Church (with maybe a little Lowlife or R.E.M. for flavor) but see how some might not be as charmed.

the 2002 reunion album, Melting in the Fullness of Time, contains one of their very best songs, "German Cars," which is so good it could have been on the Associates' Sulk. and it would have been a highlight. other favorites are "Imagination," "Sleep (Is For Everyone)," "Caught in Flux," all of The Mirror Test (so underrated!), "Like Thieves," "Christmas on Easter Island," god, i could go on and on. as much as i love Garce's voice, i'm a total sucker for SLAG's instrumentals. ambrosia!

Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Hal Jam), Sunday, 18 February 2007 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link

SLAG are so consistent, almost to the point of sameiness

Yeah, exactly! That's what I was trying to get across that this idea of choosing a song to tell folks to start with makes no sense because you could pretty much just pick any song at random and get the basic gist.
That said, I like "Sleep (Is For Everyone)" a lot, too, Ghost Bear.

It's so funny to realize their name spell an acronym "SLAG", though - makes me want to pull out that Fall song about Slags, Slates...

I will have to give "German Cars" a go. I didn't know they reformed.

Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 07:06 (seventeen years ago) link

their fanclub was called The SLAG Bag!

how do you rate their later albums, Bimble? Treehouse Poetry and Headland tend to get slagged (ha!) off by fans of the band's first lineup. i think they're weaker, esp. lyrically, but still full of good material. better than any Snake Corps i've heard. something about that band bugs the shit out of me.

funny, i was also searching YouTube for SLAG clips yesterday. great minds...

hadn't thought about KOTS in a while. liked Dandelions well enough but didn't feel the need to investigate further. was i wrong?

Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Hal Jam), Sunday, 18 February 2007 07:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I was just going to mention Snake Corps actually! Some members went on to be in Snake Corps didn't they? I bought a Snake Corps LP back in the day and it made no dent in my psyche whatever. Could use it as a coaster, etc. (if you had a really big mug of beer!)

I don't know their later albums...FTF is where I quit, pretty much. I just heard "Cowboys", though, a minute or two ago and that was really good, made me want to seek out more. I don't know what album that song is on, but maybe I should give Mirror Test a try after all.

Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"Cow Boys" was on FTF, or at least on the CD version. maybe you heard the live version from Total Sound?

the SLAG lineup from The Mirror Test onwards is more playful, less claustrophobic than the dense, obssessive FTF. i think it's the acoustic elements added by new guitarist Tony McGuinness and (more prominent) keyboardist/pianist Juliet Sainsbury that make the difference, opening up the SLAG sound, letting in a little air and light to buoy the romantic wist in Garce's vocals.

the Snake Corps/SLAG connection were the formidable duo of guitarist Tristan Garel-Funk and keyboardist David Wood, and you can definitely hear it. both bands had that lucious, anthemic post-punk sound we can't get enough of. the drummer was Rudimentary Peni's Jon Greville. Ian Gibson, who was also SLAG's bassist on The Mirror Test made all the right Burgess/Bacon moves. but somehow Snake Corps ended up sounding like a Chameleons desperate for chart success. i'm not sure where everything went wrong. i guess Marc Lewis is to blame, as his voice is good, but his tendency to over-sing every chorus gets on one's nerves after a few songs. i'm pretty sure it's not the material, which is often just as strong as SLAG's if a bit more bombastic. but just compare the SLAG versions of "(Caught) In Flux" and "Clint" with the Snake Corps' and you know why one band sinks while the other soars.



Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Hal Jam), Sunday, 18 February 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, "wist" not a word. but it should be. and u know what i mean.

in summary:
Script of the Bridge:FTF::WDAM?B:The Mirror Test

and add "Seven Kinds of Sin" to my fave songlist.

unrelated - Lori & The Chameleons' "The Lonely Spy" is on YouTube!

Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Hal Jam), Sunday, 18 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmm, "Lost in a Moment" always pops into my head at unexpected times. But Hackney Five-O was Midnight Music's finest hour.

Paul Eater (eater), Sunday, 18 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

holy shit Garce sounds a lot like the lovechild of Morrissey and Bernie Sumner sometimes!

and why can't all music be as good as The Mirror Test?

thank christ for For Against.

have i mentioned that i'm, um, passionate about this band? right now i just want to slip on a trenchcoat, scale the highest mountain, hold a boombox aloft and blast the world with SLAG until it reciprocates my love.

Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Hal Jam), Sunday, 18 February 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahaha. Better yet, blare it out of a car or van and make everyone within blocks vibrate! Um...NOT.

What the hell were Hackney Five-O like anyway? I can't remember if I ever heard them. I feel like I must have, though, cause I had a Midnight comp.

Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I admit Ghost Bear, that when one goes on a SLAG trip, it's easy to exclude everyone else for awhile. I'm going to listen to some of Mirror Test in a minute here. If I can stop smoking the crack of Feeding The Flame, that is. I'm going to turn up the volume and annoy my neighbors because

SLEEP IS FOR EVERYONE

Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

The name alone is fucking strange I want to hear some of the music!

wesley useche (wesleyuseche), Monday, 19 February 2007 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link


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