Sandbox salsa, cha cha cha, bolero, plena, bomba, Afro-Cuban rumba, cumbia, merengue, bachata, and reggaeton blog-like thread

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Angel Canales, not your ten year old niece's salsa:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4SyMIdzplNE

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

Lebron Brothers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG6pT9v_qZw

(This guy razalatinaPeru has good stuff.)

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 17 February 2007 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

Ray Barretto w/ Ruben Blades singing, 1975:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDbR9UCEWBw

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 17 February 2007 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

That all percussion ending of the Barretto/Blades clip is so awesome. For some reason it also reminds me where circa 81 NY postpunkers Liquid Liquid got inspiration from. That is Blades and Barretto before they became serious artistes too cool for the clave beat.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 17 February 2007 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm? I don't think Blades and Barretto ever became too cool for the clave beat. Barretto moved into jazz, for whatever reasons, but some of his Latin jazz is in clave, and Blades has continued to record salsa off and on over the years. Yes, he wanted to work outside the limits of son clave, but I don't think he's ever rejected it.

Liquid Liquid were drawing more from Brazilian music, I think. Anything "Latin" in their sound sound Brazilian to me.

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 17 February 2007 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

Although some Afro-Cuban rhythms occasionally can sound really close to Afro-Brazilian. I can think of at least one case where I've mistaken one for the other.

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 17 February 2007 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't Barretto also start in jazz? I remember reading from somewhere that he started by playing ordinary jazz rhythms and later on moved to Latin music.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 17 February 2007 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I think he's played Jazz ,both Latin and otherwise, pretty much since the start of his career. He's all over the Blue Note catalogue.

Daniel Reifferscheid (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 17 February 2007 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, I thought about that after I'd already responded. It's not as if Barretto hadn't already been doing jazz off and on for a while. I think his earliest recording gigs may have been on jazz recordings, although I wouldn't swear by it.

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 17 February 2007 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

Alright, I stand corrected on Barreto. And yea Blades has used a clave beat after 75, but, in my mind, he also more self-consciously tried to create "important" works after that time (sometimes successfully, sometimes not).

Who is that playing piano with Barretto and Blades? He sounds good to me.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 17 February 2007 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

I was wondering who the pianist was too.

But Steve, in 1975 a lot of Blades's best work was still ahead of him (notably Siembra in 1978, with Willie Colon, but that's not the only example).

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 17 February 2007 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

Hey New Yorkers look what's coming back:

Amid Squeal of Trains at Times Square, Melody of a Store’s Rebirth

By WILLIAM NEUMAN, N.Y. Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/19/nyregion/19record.html?pagewanted=print

"....For nearly 40 years, Mr. Moskowitz had sold music — first records, then eight-track tapes, cassettes and CDs — out of a cramped, narrow shop perched above the BMT platform in the Times Square station (“Three customers and it was full,” Mr. Moskowitz joked). It became famous for its vast array of Latin sounds and as a gathering point that drew musicians and aficionados.

Now, in a newly renovated spot some 50 feet away, Mr. Moskowitz hopes to recapture some of that feeling.

“The store really represented the whole magic of New York,” recalled Harry Sepulveda, who was legendary in his own right as Record Mart’s longtime buyer and floor general.

Fans of the store invariably mention Mr. Sepulveda, who during close to 30 years there acted as teacher and guide, introducing hundreds of people to new musicians or styles of music. Where other stores would start and stop with Ricky Martin, he said, Record Mart would steer customers to classic bands like La Sonora Ponceña and great musicians like Ray Barretto.

“It was the real vibe of New York City, the real sound,” Mr. Sepulveda said. “That was the most important part, that’s what made the store so important. It really captured it. People went in there and said, ‘Wow, this is really what I’ve been looking for, this is really New York.’ ”

Mr. Sepulveda grew up among musicians and brought many into the store. He said musicians visiting the city for gigs stopped in — even from Cuba, where, he marveled, word of a little shop in the New York subway had spread. Collectors came from Japan, Europe, South America.

Mr. Sepulveda was so closely associated with the store in the minds of its customers that many of them referred to it as “Harry’s record shop,” Mr. Moskowitz said.

Mr. Sepulveda now works as a concert promoter and assembles compilation albums of Latin music. But Mr. Moskowitz said he hoped he could lure him back to the store, if only on a part-time basis.

“I think it would not be the same without him,” Mr. Moskowitz said."

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 19 February 2007 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still wondering who that pianist is in that Blades/Barretto video. I need to ask WPFW dj Jim Byers. He'd know (as might someone from that NY store in that NY Times article).

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

Gil Lopez (and no, I don't know who that is). The notes about the video now list him. I don't know if it was there before and we simply missed it, or if this is information that was added.

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

I've been listening to Miami Sound Machine lately, and I was wondering if there were any other acts that would mix salsa and eighties dance music in a similar way (with perhaps a little more salsa). Any suggestions?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

Um, RS any ideas? Not me.

I'm trying to figure out who Omega y Su Mambo Violente are. They've got a few youtube videos (and are coming to DC).

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

The main show Grammy Nominees:

Best Tropical Latin Album
Homenaje A Los Rumberos -Edwin Bonilla
[Sonic Projects Records].

The Last Mambo- Cachao
[Eventus/Sony Music Latin].

Mongorama -José Rizo's Mongorama
[Saungu Records].

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:05 (eight years ago) link

Only 3 nominees for tropical while most categories have 5

39. Best Latin Pop, Rock, Or Urban Album

Entren Los Que Quieran -Calle 13
[Sony Music].

Entre La Ciudad Y El Mar -- Gustavo Galindo
[Surco/Universal Music Latino].

Nuestra-- La Vida Bohème
[Nacional Records].

Not So Commercial Los Amigos Invisibles
[Nacional Records].

Drama Y Luz--Maná
[Warner Music Mexico].

Calle 13 is from 2010...

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:09 (eight years ago) link

Grammy calendar goes from some point in 2010, as the Edwin Bonilla is from October 2010

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:57 (eight years ago) link

I finally remembered my pre-assigned nonsense password for the sandbox. It's refreshing to see no Gilberto Santa Rosa nominations in the tropical category. Three is slim, but perhaps the category deserves to on a diet right now considering how little there is to be enthusiastic about. The Bonillla album is respectable, but not something I'm too excited about. Don't know the other two.

Occidental Rudipherous, Monday, 5 December 2011 15:15 (eight years ago) link

No bachata nominations? Or did I miss something...

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 5 December 2011 15:21 (eight years ago) link

I had never heard of this guy:

Mexican-born producer Jose Rizo has been the Musical Director at KKJZ 88.1 FM (Kjazz) in Long Beach, California for quite some time now. In addition, Rizo has also been the producer and leader of the Jazz on the Latin Side All Stars big band for ten years which have released four critically-acclaimed albums. Mongorama is Rizo’s new nine-piece Latin Jazz ensemble which pays tribute to the legacy of conguero Mongo Santamaria. The self-titled album explores Santamaria’s early charanga-jazz material of the 50s and 60s featuring musicians with a direct connection to Santamaria and the sidemen appearing in his early recordings.

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 5 December 2011 15:24 (eight years ago) link

Was Maroon 5's "Move like Jagger" really the top pop song on Latin radio for much of the summer? I was reading a favorable review of the Romeo Santos album in the Washington Post and it said that a Santos song displaced "Move Like Jagger" from the chart. I don't like "Move like Jagger' and do not understand its apparent Latin audience popularity if that is true.

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 17:54 (eight years ago) link

if i have to hear or read the words "move like jagger" one more time in this life it will be one too many

recently deposed application inspector for the (league of women voters), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 18:35 (eight years ago) link

So I see google tells me there was a "Latin dubstep" remix of that song. Still probably won't change our minds on it.

Another Suburbanite, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:22 (eight years ago) link

I'm totally infatuated with David Murray Cuban Ensemble (important to credit the Ensemble, not only the maesto) Play Nat King Cole En Espanol(some of these songs are Portuguese too, maybe). According to the promo materials, King's original versions, replete with stiff phonetic phrasing of fluid melodies, were received with affectionate amusement by his Latin fans (re Airto Moreita on Brazilian response to Getz's bossa nova). But Cole and/or his producers chose songs of amazing potential--there's no sense of Murray imposing his own thing, and/or renovating from the ground up. Stuff, frequently new stuff, happens every second, with hyperactivity or claustrophobia. He likes to feature different sections of his Ensemble on diff subsets and recurring approaches--the horns don't ride your ass into the ground, the accordion doesn't perk you into terminal Stsrbucks. A Yoda-like tango singer pops up at just the right moments. Murray's sting arrangements alone are worth the price of admission.

dow, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:49 (eight years ago) link

with NO hyperactivity or claustrophobia, that is!

dow, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:50 (eight years ago) link

A Yoda-like tango singer pops up at just the right moments.
can this happen more in my life please?

league of women voters, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:52 (eight years ago) link

and it's eh, David Murray Cuban Ensemble Plays, not Play etc-sorry

dow, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:52 (eight years ago) link

His string not sting arrangements

dow, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:57 (eight years ago) link

Stop proof-reading your post! I liked some of the French Caribbean things David Murray has done, but mostly for the French Caribbean folkloric side of things really. I've read that Nat King Cole was a major model for the great Cuban sonero Benny More. Incidentally, Cuban vocalist Issac Delgado, who defected to the U.S. in the past several years, put out a Nat King Cole tribute album last year or the year before or something like that. I can't say I really liked it much though.

Occidental Rudipherous, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Also, sorry but a Yoda like tango singer does not sound like something I want in my life at all.

Occidental Rudipherous, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:03 (eight years ago) link

i don't want to listen to Yoda sing so much as I want him or her to pop up at various moments.

league of women voters, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:10 (eight years ago) link

Then you have to humor his singing!

dow, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:36 (eight years ago) link

From the NY Times re that Murray does Cole album:

On an early trip to Cuba Mr. Murray met the alto-saxophonist Román Filiu O’Reilly, now 39, who quickly concluded that “we were both drinking from the same well.” So when Mr. Murray decided to tackle the Nat King Cole project, Mr. Filiu, in addition to being offered the alto chair, was asked to assemble a group of young players who could keep up with Mr. Murray’s demanding arrangements.

“David’s way of playing is loose and free and always surprising, but he doesn’t lose the essence of Cuban music, and even if it may seem dissonant at times, it has its beauty,” Mr. Filiu said in a telephone interview. “His arrangement of a bolero or a cha-cha-cha can be daring and fresh, but the voicing of the instruments, the lines he writes for us to play, however challenging they may be, are perfectly in the tradition.”

The Cuban ensemble has toured with Mr. Murray throughout Europe and in Latin America, both before and after recording the “Nat King Cole en Español” CD in Buenos Aires last year, with strings overdubbed in Portugal. But with some restrictions on the ability of Cuban musicians to travel still in place in the United States and Cuba, Mr. Murray will be performing at the Skirball Center with a New York-based group that includes several Cuban musicians.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/arts/music/david-murray-on-his-new-nat-king-cole-album.html

Another Suburbanite, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:42 (eight years ago) link

so if i know absolutely nothing about current spanish-language rock but am enjoying the hell out of the new album by la santa cecilia, where's a good next step?

silvana mangano, Thursday, 8 December 2011 08:06 (seven years ago) link

Good question. I will leave it to others here who might be familiar with that Los Angeles band.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/30/entertainment/la-et-santa-cecilia-20110830

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:14 (seven years ago) link

I don't know about Spanish-language rock. unperson (or whatever his sandboxnym is) might be able to suggest something.

Occidental Rudipherous, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) link

I guess unperson is not here right now

Another Suburbanite, Saturday, 10 December 2011 02:48 (seven years ago) link

and where's fauxmarc

Another Suburbanite, Saturday, 10 December 2011 16:27 (seven years ago) link

I just know old rock en espanol and pop stuff

Another Suburbanite, Saturday, 10 December 2011 16:28 (seven years ago) link

My dad wants the new Poncho Sanchez with Terence Blanchard album: Chano y Dizzy. He likes straightforward Latin jazz

Another Suburbanite, Saturday, 10 December 2011 16:59 (seven years ago) link

me too, kinda.

Another Suburbanite, Saturday, 10 December 2011 16:59 (seven years ago) link

When it comes to Latin rock, I really enjoy Omar Rodriguez-Lopez'z 2011 best-of-self collection, Telesterion. You can stream it and a ton of his other albums here:
http://omardigital.rodriguezlopezproductions.com/

dow, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:48 (seven years ago) link

Zechs Marquise,Omar's younger brothers' band, also has a 2011 album. Getting Paid. It's uneven, but worth checking out here:
http://zechsmarquise.bandcamp.com "> http://zechsmarquise.bandcamp.com

dow, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Weird. Use the second link.

dow, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:59 (seven years ago) link

"Latin but cool" is kind of an annoying title but maybe there's a story to it.

So old man decided not to stay out late last night for the Maracuyeah dj collective end of the year event with guest NYC global tech/alt Latino dj Geko Jones (Que Bajo?! Dutty Artz ) + hometown djs: Bent (anthology of booty/africa is not a country); Mafe (maracuyeah); rAt (maracuyeah/anthology of booty); K La Rock & Brian Senyo (work the walls) all spinning Cumbiasalvaje, tribal guarachero, salsatronic, ochenteros, merengue ripiado, dancehall, y mucho mas

Another Suburbanite, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:41 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdNLyHRk_4Q

Occidental Rudipherous, Friday, 16 December 2011 19:27 (seven years ago) link

that reminds me, they played that one so-so recent eric rincon single at one of the gay mexican + colombian spots in queens - the music is usually mostly mexican cumbia, i think this is the first time i've heard tribal out

realmarc (pushingit), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 17:34 (seven years ago) link

not latin-rock but re: omar rodriguez lopez, at the drive-in at st. andrew's church, college park md in 1999 was a defining show for me. they were opening for the get up kids and all of the guk fans pressed up front to secure their spots - once atdi's set started and everone started spazzing most of the guk people couldn't deal, gave up the front row and went to go wait the set out.

realmarc (pushingit), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 17:40 (seven years ago) link

http://garagemusic.com.mx/?p=1192

another top 10 list (translated by google)

Another Suburbanite, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 23:54 (seven years ago) link

Only in Brooklyn-- the Williamsburg Salsa Orchestra does salsa covers of TV on the Radio, Arcade Fire and other indie-rock acts

http://web.me.com/giannimano/Williamsburg_Salsa_Orchestra/Welcome.html

Not impressed with the vocals or percussion on the TVOTR cut but the horns are ok

http://web.me.com/giannimano/Williamsburg_Salsa_Orchestra/Welcome.html

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 22 December 2011 00:11 (seven years ago) link

I think the Celso Pina cumbia cd on the AARP Ernesto Lechner compiled list came out in 2010 (according to Amazon and 2009 according to Wiki)

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 22 December 2011 00:41 (seven years ago) link

This timba trumpeter/vocalist made his list also

Alexander Abreu y Havana D'Primera: Haciendo Historia
(Ahí-Namá)

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 22 December 2011 00:48 (seven years ago) link

so is that new Soundways cumbia comp gonna be on CD, or do I have to spend $65 on the 2 vinyl volumes to get it?

sleeve sandbox, Thursday, 22 December 2011 02:13 (seven years ago) link

Not too crazy about the Celso Pina

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 22 December 2011 15:13 (seven years ago) link

Listening to Abreu's Cuban sounds on Spotify now. ok so far

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 22 December 2011 15:46 (seven years ago) link

I need to listen to Bio Ritmo's latest.

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 22 December 2011 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Just discovered Andres Landero through my wife, who's been listening to him on YouTube for a couple of weeks. I've downloaded two compilations - one's just called 16 Canciones and the other Grandes Cumbias - and they're both awesome, with only one duplicate track between them. His accordion style is really raw, and the rhythm behind him is super-primitive too; it's like the cumbia equivalent of Delta blues, low tech and totally potent.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 December 2011 03:26 (seven years ago) link

La Lechera, here's some esoteric (to me anyway) Colombian stuff you might like:

http://www.descarga.com/cgi-bin/db/24633.10?eVEFw8jP;;438

I'm turning this off the minute I don't like it (Occidental Rudipherous), Friday, 23 December 2011 18:40 (seven years ago) link

Am I still a link? How did that happen?

I'm turning this off the minute I don't like it (Occidental Rudipherous), Friday, 23 December 2011 18:41 (seven years ago) link

???

Occidental Rudipherous, Friday, 23 December 2011 18:42 (seven years ago) link

Woo! 90s!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Hz6ja2kH0

Despite the often horrific synth sounds, it's a great song.

Occidental Rudipherous, Saturday, 24 December 2011 03:08 (seven years ago) link

Sorry to ignore cumbia talk, but not feeling all that in the mood for rootsy-cumbia at the moment (and I still don't know a whole lot about it, though I'm happy when cumbia attracts new listeners, in general).

Occidental Rudipherous, Saturday, 24 December 2011 03:10 (seven years ago) link

i just saw this! will check out!
thanks for the cumbia christmas :)

league of women voters, Saturday, 24 December 2011 22:08 (seven years ago) link

WRTI streaming Christmas salsa (etc.):

http://www.wrti.org/listenlive.html

Select "All Jazz Web Stream."

They can spotify this--my pitbull! (Occidental Rudipherous), Sunday, 25 December 2011 02:11 (seven years ago) link

etc. basically being other Puerto Rican Christmas music.

They can spotify this--my pitbull! (Occidental Rudipherous), Sunday, 25 December 2011 02:17 (seven years ago) link

Mon Rivera skipping. You know, this has been released on CD at least a couple times. I know you love your vinyl and all, but maybe CD would be a better choice in this case.

They can spotify this--my pitbull! (Occidental Rudipherous), Sunday, 25 December 2011 02:21 (seven years ago) link

He's actually playing some Latin Brothers (desde Colombia). Isn't that nice and ecumenical?

They can spotify this--my pitbull! (Occidental Rudipherous), Sunday, 25 December 2011 03:09 (seven years ago) link

Incidentally, I know my new display name is not clever, but I could not get the idea out of my head, so I will keep it for a bit then kill it.

They can spotify this--my pitbull! (Occidental Rudipherous), Sunday, 25 December 2011 03:10 (seven years ago) link

http://latinmusic.about.com/od/cdtoppicks/tp/The-Best-Latin-Music-Albums-Of-2011.htm?nl=1

Calle 13 is from 2010...

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 02:02 (seven years ago) link

I like some of that Wisin y Yandel

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 02:04 (seven years ago) link

This list seems to lean too heavily on the fact that these albums sold a lot. Most of this stuff is not all that good, imo. The Guatemalan alternative thing looks intriguing, but I dunno.

Occidental Rudipherous, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 02:11 (seven years ago) link

Those About.com lists are always predictable that way. Just haven't found anything else online that looks of interest.

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 02:13 (seven years ago) link

I really think Tito Rodriguez was cooler than Tito Puente.

Occidental Rudipherous, Friday, 30 December 2011 01:52 (seven years ago) link

Great band leader and great (truly top notch) singer.

Occidental Rudipherous, Friday, 30 December 2011 01:53 (seven years ago) link

Did Rodriguez continue to play percussion over the years while singing and as a bandleader, or did he hire others?

Those 2 Titos were certainly rivals.

Another Suburbanite, Friday, 30 December 2011 03:41 (seven years ago) link

I need to google that

Another Suburbanite, Sunday, 1 January 2012 19:51 (seven years ago) link


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