I Need Kate Bush recommendations!!

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I recently got Hounds of Love and think its amazing...where do I go from here ? Is 'The Dreaming' as weird as it's made out to be ? Your Bush expertise will be much appreciated.

― Piano Fire (Piano Fire), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

oh god

― unfished business (Scourage), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

wait till the main board goes back up, and then search 'kate bush', there's about 2000 posts' worth of crazed fanboy wisdom in there

― unfished business (Scourage), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I just realised the connotations of the last sentence.....lets veer away from that area for now.

― Piano Fire (Piano Fire), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a lazy and impatient man unfinished business, so just tell me what I want to hear....

― Piano Fire (Piano Fire), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/09/62/04d9828fd7a06c50b2fbf010.L.jpg

― da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I had it all typed out until I read that.

― KeefW (KeefW), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I vote for Kick Inside and Sensual World, which can both probably be had for cheap. I only say this because they're the only ones I kept (plus Hounds) in my great cd purge a few years ago.

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

The Kick Inside = classic early, prodigal material
Lionheart = early, unhappy contractual obligation Kate by no means a write off but not her most sparkling moment. Feels like a recycling of the debut.
Never For Ever/The Dreaming/Hounds Of Love = the 'mature' Kate Bush sound. All three are GOLD.
The Sensual World = Dusky, rich & gorgeous but can't quite live up to that middle run, some inconsistent material. Still very very good.
The Red Shoes = amazing giddy 'mainstream' pop album everyone hates, actually very defensible imo if thematically very incoherent and production/collaboration choices frequently v.iffy.
Aerial = OMG. BACK! my favourite album of 2005, probably top 10 of 00's. Absolutely floored me on the third listen (but doesn't quite pip TD/HOL)

also, get the bonus CDs from the box set for some choice b-sides

― da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The Dreaming is a little odd at first, needs a few listens but it's not super harshly inaccessible or anything. She's above that sh!t frankly.

― da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Sweet, thanks for the tips da mystery.

― Piano Fire (Piano Fire), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I suggest these as your next purchases:

The Dreaming
Aerial
Never For Ever

― RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

fandango very much otm

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

"Ken", obv.

― Is John Kosmina Gonna Have To Choke A Bitch? (pato.g27), Saturday, 17 February 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the best thing she ever did was The Cathy Demos aka The Phoenix Recordings. Cause I think she's usually overproduced. You can download 'em here:

http://www.norbry.net/kate-bush/mp3/

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Saturday, 17 February 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

The Dreaming should definitely be your next purchase. Then I would say get The Kick Inside and Aerial, like at the same time. That should last you a while. Then get Never for Ever.

― Surmounter (Awn, R), Saturday, 17 February 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

JUST GET EVERYTHING. PROBLEM SOLVED.

― Bimbler (Sourkraut), Saturday, 17 February 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah... The stuff I typed out waws much more complex, but that sums it up.

― KeefW (KeefW), Sunday, 18 February 2007 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link

But I agree with the general assessment of whoever da mystery of da sandboxin is.

― KeefW (KeefW), Sunday, 18 February 2007 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The Dreaming and The Kick Inside are the two essential Kate Bush albums. Unless you have ears of cloth you will love them.

― The Real Dirty Vicar (The Real Dirty Vicar), Sunday, 18 February 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.celticsurf.net/showbiz/katebush/katebush.jpg

― Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, a person could spend all day on this site:

http://gaffa.org/wow/pg_guide.html

― Bimbler (Sourkraut), Sunday, 18 February 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

to think, she's only a girl at a keyboard

just like me. xcept i'm not a girl. and my keyboard isn't like that (but it is silver). and i haven't released the dreaming, or hounds of love.

but i'm allowed to dream!

― Surmounter (Awn, R), Monday, 19 February 2007 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

http://gaffa.org/wow/k33.jpg

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 19 February 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my god that outfit.

and btw it must be said that The Dreaming and The Kick Inside are not really the 2 essential kate bush albums. the 2 essential kate bush albums are without a doubt The Dreaming and Hounds of Love. that's more a fact than an opinion, in my opinion.

not that Piano Fire is even paying attention to this thread anymore.

― Surmounter (Awn, R), Monday, 19 February 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I would Second RSLaRue's picks. Those are the best besides "Hounds Of Love". They are all worth getting though. Even "The Red Shoes"

― Geir Hongro (geirhong), Monday, 19 February 2007 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The youthful romanticism -- besotted with books, Victorian esoterica, and English folk -- makes The Kick Inside and Never for Ever rather hard listening for me, even though the Fairlights and Kate's increasing studio prowess on the latter mitigate it.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2007 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://gaffa.org/wow/k167.jpg

― Lingbert (Lingbert), Monday, 19 February 2007 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link

that is beautiful.

i'm listening to Night of the Swallow now. wow.

― Surmounter (Awn, R), Monday, 19 February 2007 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd rather think that most of us would find that photo revolting if it was on the cover of a Paolo Coehlo "novel."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2007 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

After Hounds Of Love go directly to Never For Ever and The Dreaming. Then maybe CD2 of Aerial up to the part in "Sunset" when the flamenco tapas-bar wigout happens. Up until then it's all really great.

― Jay Vee (Jay Vee), Monday, 19 February 2007 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost) No, Alfred. Dolphin or no dolphin Kate B. is ROWWR.

― Jay Vee (Jay Vee), Monday, 19 February 2007 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

she was in very good shape

― Lingbert (Lingbert), Monday, 19 February 2007 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link

the dreaming is now my favorite.

― sir lord baltimore club music (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 February 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Hounds of Love but have never gotten remotely close to getting into another Kate Bush record.

If I were you, Piano Fire, I would move on to full-length concept records by other artists.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 February 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Hounds of Love but have never gotten remotely close to getting into another Kate Bush record.

Try harder.

― ian (orion), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

really.

― Surmounter (Awn, R), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i was always a little puzzled by the near unanimous love for HOUNDS, it has some good songs fer shure, but i find never4ever & the dreaming more interesting. red shoes is easy to skip.

― bliss (blass), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Side 2 of "Hounds Of Love" is the key to that album. Sure, all the hits were on side 1. But side 2 is still the best side by far.

― Geir Hongro (geirhong), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i agree

― bliss (blass), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

side 2 is the more like is this really happening, genius side, surely. but the nonchalance at the surface of side 1 is misleading - it's much harder to do that than she makes it sound.

― Surmounter (Awn, R), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hounds of Love has the metaphorical complexity and unity of great literature or a good Sopranos episode. I wanted The Dreaming to work for me the same way, but it didn't.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 February 2007 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a lot of good stuff in the songs on side 1 too, but those programmed drums become a bit annoying in the long run.

― Geir Hongro (geirhong), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 03:14 (seventeen years ago) link

someone else insists on that too... alfred maybe? i look at it like, if it weren't for the drums, the songs couldn't have come out the way they did, good and bad. for me it's just contrast. i also feel like The Sensual World couldn't have turned out This Woman's Work without also coming up with Love and Anger (which I don't really get). But the HoL drums aren't nearly as errant as something like Love and Anger.

i guess it's true that in order to really enjoy HoL side 1, i do have to kind of kitschify the drums.

― Surmounter (Awn, R), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link

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