I'm excited about this decade's Appetite For Destruction/Marquee Moon/Sgt. Pepper's being released this year.

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What good albums/ musical events/ movements came out in the seventh year of decades?

Will 2007 yeild anything similar?

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

what happened in 1997?

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok Computer maybe?

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Lock life.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

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duh

― acrobat (acrobat), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

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― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver (hoosteen), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Tenth anniversary of "Seaside, Free Rides, and B-Sides" by Ocean Colour Scene.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

MTV Unplugged: Korn, obv.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver (hoosteen), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned- how many of the top 136 90's albums were in 97?

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Not sure, based on a quick scan of the list. Maybe 5 or so. OK Computer, Ultra, New Lands I think, Young Team?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Now we're getting to a subject very near and dear to me: the greatness of 1997. The best year for albums since 1977, or maybe even 1971. Just look at all the masterpieces released that year:

Built To Spill: Perfect From Now On
Sleater-Kinney: Dig Me Out
Yo La Tengo: I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One
Belle & Sebastian: If You're Feeling Sinister
Radiohead: OK Computer
Bob Dylan: Time Out Of Mind
The Verve: Urban Hymns
Pavement: Brighten The Corners
Modest Mouse: The Lonesome Crowded West
Whiskeytown: Stranger's Almanac

There's tons more. What a year, holy mackerel!!!

― kornrulez6969 (kornrulez6969), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, sure was a corker!

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Zaifuckingreeka

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Built To Spill AND Yo La Tengo AND Belle And Sebastian?!

Rock 'n' roll rebellion, thou hath touched thy zenith. You may die peacefully.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

1997 was coincidentally one of the shittiest years for hip-hop ever. Half a good Biggie album, half a good Wu-Tang album, half a good Jay-Z album and some pretty good Missy and Puffy singles.

If it wasn't for "It's All About The Benjamins" and Funcrusher Plus, you could pretty much just call it a wash.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

1997 = Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

1997 kinda bit it

― ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Compared to 2006 it seems like a treasure trove of greatness though.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Whiney what about CNN?!?! And if you were a No Limit fan it was a great year, I guess (it was sort of a blur flashy CD covers if you weren't.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, No Limit and C-N-N were bringing it, but I wouldn't exactly put any of their output against Marquee Moon or Sgt. Peppers.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The Mollusk by Ween, original release date June 24, 1997.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Dig Your Own Hole, dammits

― f. scott baio (natepatrin), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"Yeah, No Limit and C-N-N were bringing it, but I wouldn't exactly put any of their output against Marquee Moon or Sgt. Peppers."

Well I don't really rate either of those albums so I can't compare, but was there stuff from 1996 and 1998 that you would?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"Well I don't really rate either of those albums so I can't compare, but was there stuff from 1996 and 1998 that you would?"

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
The Fugees - The Score
OutKast - Stankonia

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I would maybe put Funcrusher Plus up against, like, Big Black's Songs About Fucking.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Stankonia for sure, but the Fugees...? puhleeze

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually like The War Report better than any of those '96 and '98 records you named.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Right, but this thread seems more about impact than personal preference.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay then yeah '97 kind of lacks an impact record (Torque and Supa Dupa Fly are probably the closest, but the former sort signaled the end of something and the latter was so quickly superceded by everything both Missy/Tim did.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Also was Stankonia actually 1998? I thought it was '00? Do you mean Aquemini?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Some Things That Were At Least Kinda Okay In 1997:

Bardo Pond - Lapsed
Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Blur - Blur
Brian Jonestown Massacre - Give It Back
Brutal Truth - Sounds of the Animal Kingdom
Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
Common - One Day, It'll All Make Sense
Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
Cornershop - When I Was Born for the Seventh Time
Daft Punk - Homework
Dead C - Tusk
Deftones - Around the Fur
Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant
The Dwarves - …Are Young and Good Looking
Eliott Smith - Either/Or
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Erykah Badu - Baduism
Flaming Lips - Zaireeka
Fu Manchu - The Action Is Go
Godspeed You, Black Emperor! - F#A# etc.
Gorgoroth - Under the Sign of Hell
Honeymoon Killers - Sing Sing
Iron Monkey - Iron Monkey
Jay Z - In My Lifetime 1
Kool Keith - Sex Style
Melvins - Honky & Singles 1-12
Missy Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly
Modest Mouse - Lonesome Crowded West
Mogwai - Young Team
Motards - Saturday Night Special Ed
Notorious B.I.G - Life After Death
Pan Sonic - Kulma
Portishead - Portishead
Radiohead - O.K. Computer
Satyricon - Nemesis Divina
Sleater Kinney - Dig Me Out
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, Methadone is for Quitters
Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
Tall Dwarfs - Stumpy (even with points off for the hideous album cover)
Timbaland & Magoo - Welcome to Our World
To Rococo Rot - Veiculo
Today Is the Day - Temple of the Morning Star
Turbonegro - Ass Cobra
Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart…

― adam beales (pye poudre), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"Also was Stankonia actually 1998? I thought it was '00? Do you mean Aquemini?"

Yes.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

YAY FOR MUSIC, IT'S ALL GREAT

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

So, Alex, is there a shittier year for hip-hop than 1997?

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Are we counting any of the years this decade haha?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean I'm not going to argue that '97 was a great (it wasn't) but there've been years since which certainly have seemed weaker to me (and which certainly don't have albums as classic as Stone Crazy or The War Report.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Kool Keith - Sex Style

I forgot! Still Kool Keith's best album.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

For funsies, let me just play Devil's Advocate for a second. Pick a year this decade that might be weaker...

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that list was unnecessarily long, but TONS of great records came out in '97. Whatever you think of 'em, a lot of records on that list I barfed out up there hold their own with the best of the decade (esp. Belle & Sebastian, Chemical Bros., Company Flow, Daft Punk, Dimmmu Borgir, Elliott Smith, Emperor, Fu Manchu, Pan Sonic, Portishead, Radiohead, Sleater Kinney, Satyricon, Squarepusher, Turbonegro and Yo La Tengo).

Shitty year for hip-hop, granted.

― adam beales (pye poudre), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay have fun with 2005.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

no year in which Missy Elliot's debut, Kool Keith's "Sex Style", and Wu-Tang's double LP should be considered a shitty year for hip-hop, especially considering the grim years that came after...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

97 was a great year for rap

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Harlem World and Street Gospel off the top of my head

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'half a Biggie album'!? No wayyyy

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Quik's Rhythmalism '97 or '98?

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Will 2007 yeild anything similar?

YOU!

― Fuck You I'm The Rock Scholar (LimpBizkit01), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

In retrospect the album I probably listened to most in 1997 was either Roni Size New Forms or that Sounds of the Asian Underground comp.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck it, I'm listening to that Roni Size tonight.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

MJG's solo album was that year, I think thats really underrated. Three-6's world domination was that year. No Way Out is good but I'm not gonna bother defending that because really its trife territory. Camp Lo's Uptown Saturday Night was '97. Ghetto D. Twista's Adrenaline Rush. Mystikal's Unpredictable. B-Legit's Hemp Museum. That Rakim comeback album. I haven't listened to Trick Daddy's True Story in ages so i have no idea if it was good.

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Rappin 4Tay's 4 Tha Hardway

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"Okay have fun with 2005."

I think the four big Houston albums (Mike Jones, Slim Thug, Paul Wall, Chamillionaire) adds up to one Reasonable Doubt.

The coke-rap stuff (Dipset, Jeezy, Clipse) didn't have better singles than No Limit, but had better albums.

Actually, 1997 might have this one beat...

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man Rhythmalism is '98 not '97. Allmusic hates it! I think its maybe my favorite Quik album. Ouch @ this review though:
Review by Chris Slawecki
Considering its guest list — packed with enough star power (El DeBarge, Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, Peter Gunz, Hi-C, AMG, and 2nd II None) to fill a "Wrestlemania" card — Rhythm-al-ism promises more than it actually delivers. Its cleverest moments ("Medley for a 'V' (The Pussy Medley)") address colloquialisms for genitalia and all the wonderful things it's good for. "Down, Down, Down," "I Useta Know Her," and "No Doubt" (rhymes with: "I got something for your mouth") are plain nasty. Just what rap needs: one more guy boasting about his majestic penis and how good he is at treating women like gutter trash.

― deej (deej), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

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― deej (deej), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Björk - Homogenic

― da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't believe there are people slagging off 97 when there are also people saying 96 was a good year for pop.

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't think this at the time, but my fave 1997 release is Spectrum's Forever Alien with Labradford's Mi Media Naranja a close second.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"i can't believe there are people slagging off 97 when there are also people saying 96 was a good year for pop."

I don't know about pop, but '96 was a very solid year for hip hop and it was the last year jungle (hello jump up) really mattered.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

1997=the booty call sndtrck=great year

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

1998 >>>>>>>>> 1997

and furthermore you have all forgotten the best album of 1997: RADIATOR

― Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

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― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

[1996] was the last year jungle (hello jump up) really mattered.

I admit to liking the gentrified cocktail drum'n'bass fusion hoo-ha to a mild extent (though jungle ca. '94 > all), so I'm biased. But uh hey J Majik? Jonny L? Photek? The aforementioned Torque?

― f. scott baio (natepatrin), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Some of that stuff is good, but it feels like it all was consciously trying to distance itself from jungle (hence the name change as well.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Makes sense. Maybe:
1996: last year jungle-qua-jungle mattered
1997: first and probably also last year drum'n'bass'n'1973 Hancock mattered

― f. scott baio (natepatrin), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Let us never forget:

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but that probably won't work, so I'll just write it down:

Carl Craig - More Songs About Food And Revolutionary Art

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a shame just one person wrote Radiator, easily one of the best releases of the year.
Also: Bis - The New Transistor Heroes

― zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

Spiceworld.

― Matt Armstrong (gensu3k1), Monday, 12 February 2007 02:04 (seventeen years ago) link

jungle-qua-jungle

― A B C (sparklecock), Monday, 12 February 2007 05:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Carl Craig - More Songs About Food And Revolutionary Art

Considering The Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich came out in 1996, this is hardly a praise for 1997. (Okay, some of the tracks on that were already years old by then, but there's also superb new tracks like "Paperclip Man".) Or am I the only one who finds MSAFARA sappy and sentimentalist in a bad way?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 12 February 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

...Sinister is the only album that came out in 1997 that came even close to having a real long-lasting effect on my life.

this year i was hoping it'd be neon bible. and i guess it still might be.

― CharlieNo4 (CharlieNo4), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Patrick Wolf.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Still proud of my Radiator shout! I might have to concede second place to Radiohead, mind.

2007's album-for-the-ages will hopefully be The Electric Soft Parade's new record, which, Nick, I need to get in touch with that Stylus dude about at some point...

― Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Patrick Wolf, dude.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

1997 was also the year of Fat of the Land and the electronica hype. And "Bittersweet Symphony". And "New Paths to Helicon". And Bad Timing. And The Color and the Shape.

It was also the year of "MmmmBop", "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)", Pop, and "Mo Money, Mo Problems." So, it wasn't all good news.

2006 was the worst year ever for music, and I bet 2007'll be even worse.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheer the fuck up you miserable bastard.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 07:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"mo money mo problems" is one of the best songs of the century and peoplewho don't knwo atht are either deaf or fetal acohol.

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but Fat of the Land is hardly a merit for 1997.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 07:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"Mmmmbop" is fucking great! "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)" is great!

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Declaring the current or most recently passed year the worst in the history of music: C/D

― The Reverend (Rodney J. Greene), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Absolute fucking dud. I had a great time in 2006 with music.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

and their refinement of the decline

― Subtractive Synthesis (Subtractive Synthesis), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

If You're Feeling Sinister was released late '96.

Appetite for Destruction? Dross. ("Appetite" is a such a fey word to have in that title, don't you think?)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

1997

ok computer AND either/or

both certain of being in my all time top 5. pretty damn good year

― charminator (charminator), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

1997: Dig Your Own Hole and Boogie Nights OST

― Myonga Von Bygone (Monty Von Bygone), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Low - Drums and Guns

(already album of the year for me)

― Stephen Bush (Stephen Bush), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever you think of 'em, a lot of records on that list I barfed out up there hold their own with the best of the decade

What if I think they suck?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The Gummo soundtrack was the best album of 1997.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

1. The Gold Torques Of Ulaid - Absu
2. Serving Time In The Middle Of Nowhere - Eyehategod
3. D.W.S.O.B. - Electric Hellfire Club
4. Gummo Love Theme - Spazz
5. Schuld Uns'res Knoch'rigen Faltpferd - Bethlehem
6. Rundgang Um Die Transzendentale Saule der Singularitat - Burzum
7. Equimanthorn - Bathory
8. Smokin' Husks - Dark Noerd
9. Dragonaut - Sleep
10. Matando Gueros 97 - Brujeria
11. The Medicined Man - Namanax
12. Hellish Blasphemy - Nifelheim
13. Skin Peeler - Mortician
14. Give The Human Devil His Due - Mystifier
15. Mom's And Dad's Pussy - Destroy All Monsters
16. Verschleierte Irrelgiositat - Bethlehem
17. Suite No. 2 For Solo Cello In D Minor-Prelude - Mischa Maisky
18. Some Grass - Sleep
19. Jesus Loves Me - Rose Shephard/Ellen M. Smith

OK Computer?!* More like OGAYComputeSHIT.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The most punk rock album of 1987 was Bad by Michael Jackson.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

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