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Ok. I really need your help here, ILM. I didn't know where else to turn. I have a serious gap in my memory. I tried to come back to ILM to ask you guys to help me figure out a song title.. but you were gone! I managed to find this secret outpost of ILM and have come to pose my question before you. Help me ILM, you're my only hope.

I can't remember the title/artist of a particular song. In fact i can't remember anything about the song really.. Except that i think its in 3/4 time. It guitar driven. Alternative/rock from the late 90s or early 2000s. I seem to remember it being sort industrial rocky.. or droney.. but I don't know. I think the band was a three piece.. north american.

I remember no portion of the lyrics, song title or artist name.

Can anyone help?

also, is there any way to search ILM archives right now? that may help.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Clockhammer?

Admittedly, I'm kind of shooting in the dark here...

― John Justen is interested in eating your pet. (John Justen), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Rush?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

thought this was gonna be kenan posting from the dateline nbc van

― and what (ooo), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i expect every shot to be in the dark on this one. i understand it is extremely vague. this is the source of my dilemma.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

it's neither rush nor clockhammer.

the song is not proggy at all.. i think thats why its interesting to me.. it was straight up rock in what i recall to be 3/4 time

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

NICKELBACK.

― John Justen, surrounded by frail, wispy people. (John Justen), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

oh dear god

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I told you, BUILT TO SPILL, VELVET WALTZ

Except it wasn't a single or anything afaik.

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Was it used in a teen comedy?

― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

ummm i'm not sure if it was used in a teen comedy

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

How mainstream should we be thinking?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_trio ? (there's a list below the article, but it's very short)

also, The Presidents Of The USA are a rock trio

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe "Sex and Candy", "Closing Time" or "The Way"?

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

not totally mainstream.. no nirvana or anything.. but i was in highschool when i heard them so they can't be that obscure either.

i think they may have had a few minor hits. i heard the song via mp3 most likely, so i don't know how widespread the airplay was.

i'm located in ontario canada, but i dont recall them being specifically regional to the area, or even canada, though i can't exclude it.

nothing pops out at me from that wikipedia article. i might be totally wrong on the trio thing.. the 3/4 thing im more sure of.. thats what prompted this.

also note that i was into stuff like nine inch nails and white zombie when i was younger, so it probably spoke somewhat to those tastes.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

it was quite aggresive. tempo was a fair speed

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

it's definitly not sex and candy or closing time.. but probably around the same time period

what's "the way" ?

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Rush?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Nomeansno? (er... did they have minor hits?)

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

you can search ilx archives via google, fwiw.

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

not The Presidents Of The USA either..

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

not Nomeansno

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe its Rush..

ITS NOT RUSH!!!

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey man, nice shot in the dark.

― adam beales (pye poudre), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

let me say, i do appriciate everyones help on this. ilm still kicks ass i guess.

i've been looking into alot of canadian bands, havent found anything yet.. so good chance they were american.. 75% chance id say

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

And it's not Built To Spill?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

nope not built to spill either

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Sebadoh?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

triumph? (lol)

― bill sackter (bill sackter), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

not sebadoh... not triumph

right now im gonna start placing odds at around 3% that this is a completely false memory and no such song exists...

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Machines of Loving Grace?

― John Justen, surrounded by frail, wispy people. (John Justen), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(Might help if you let us know which of the previous suggestions were closest, BTW)

― John Justen, surrounded by frail, wispy people. (John Justen), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

not Machines of Loving Grace.. but thats probably getting close to the vibe it had. darker, aggressive.. i dont remember it being silly and gothy though..

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

can anyone help me remember this alterna-rock 90s band i'm trying to think of (it may even be the same band astroblaster is thinking of). i think they had something to do w/the smashing pumpkins. i believe d'arcy mighta sang on a song or one of the members of SP produced it. and the chorus had a word that at the time (in highschool) i had to look up to figure out what it meant. i can't remember said word, but i feel like it meant something like being content. and i think there were robots in the video.

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

"Bound For the Floor"

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

jaxon i think it was the band Catherine

― jerginsito (jergins), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

SISTER MACHINE GUN?

― John Justen, surrounded by frail, wispy people. (John Justen), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

("Bound For the Floor" was for Jaxon - does 'copacetic' ring a bell?)

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Answer to original question: Hüsker Dü with "She Floated Away"

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Astroblaster, write and perform the song and then see who sues you!

― Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(Um, sister machine gun intended for astroblaster, BTW)

― John Justen, surrounded by frail, wispy people. (John Justen), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Sugar? Something from Beaster perhaps?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ding ding ding!! Tape Store wins. thanks bro.

but that's not the video i was thinking of. maybe i'm confusing two bands. what about the smashing pumkins connection? and robots?

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

catherine was a band with d'arcy singing one song, at least. they had a good video, from what I remember.

"copacetic" was by a band called Local H, and might be the song in question in this thread

― akm (akmonday), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

not sister machine gun

i think they were more one hit wondery... maybe 2 mediocre albums all together

ive also been surfing allmusic going through Similar Artists, Influenced Bys and Followers.. still dont have it.

what the hell is wrong here. whats the missing piece

its not by Local H either

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

You need Jesus in your life, first and foremost.

― arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

stabbing westward is probably the closest band to the vibe i can think of. lets recap.. the song was a single, i think.. and im so sure it was in 3/4

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i estimate it around 1999-2002

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Chevelle.

― brightscreamer (brightscreamer), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Filter?

― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Some awful dirge on the Helmet best of comp?

― blunt (blunt), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Skipping 26 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

just an update on my searching on the net.. i still havent turned up anything at all... but yet im still pretty sure this song existed and was awesome. think rock waltz

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

just imagine how much fun it will be when we think of it and find that half of my statements are contradictory and you guys can all flame me. oh it will be grand... or if we figure out that its RUSH

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you checked the X-Files soundtrack?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

its not from the score.. i checked Songs in the Key of X and Fight the Future soundtracks.. doesnt appear to be those. any particular track you were thinking of?

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmmm maybe the verses were in 3/4 the choruses in 4/4 . i dont specifically remember, but this may be the case

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it Rush?

― brightscreamer (brightscreamer), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"any particular track you were thinking of?"

No I've tried to repress that I ever heard it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Eve 6 - Inside Out

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha I remember that video. That guy hurts so much inside.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHAHAHA

Coolz444 (3 days ago)

these guys are good, but H.I.M. are my all-time fave band. if you havent heard their music, then i highly recommend checkin them out, or just by simply youtubing them.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

EForgrove (3 months ago)
eve 6 is a beastly band, they're musics awesome

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm... industrial, dirgy, dark, Stabbing Westward vibe... in 3/4 time, 1999-2002 time period....

Sounds like a dead ringer for (and someone mentioned the band above) "Seeing Red" by Chevelle if you ask me. Especially if you would have said 'Tool-lite' to describe the song.

Seriously though, check that song out, it just might be the one.

― Yoshinori M. Sasao (yoshinorimike), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

good thinking re: Chevelle

here is video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQuLMRP5qwU

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 28 December 2006 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link

1. i would be killing myself if i spent the last week obsessing over an eve6 song.. no. no it's not eve6

2. chevelle's really close too, but alas this is not it. i checked it out when it was first mentioned. good track though

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it V.A.S.T.?

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 28 December 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

me and my friends really liked chevelle's "Mia".. probably around the same time as we digged this mystery song. BTW none of my friends have any idea what the hell im talking about either.. i totally grilled them

i thought V.A.S.T right away too. but i couldnt find the song. i will reinvestigate.. do you know if they/he had any with the 3/4 timing ?

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/tapestore/chevelle.jpg
good track though

(sorry -- my Chevelle-loving acquaintances look like that...really)

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 28 December 2006 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link

the toadies liked to use 3/4 and 6/8 a lot. 'i come from the water' is in 6/8 and so is 'backslider'. 'possum kingdom' had a bunch of different time signatures, too.

― 6335 (6335), Thursday, 28 December 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

vahid already said prong, but did you check that out? i'm pretty sure they did some non-4/4 stuff.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 28 December 2006 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll do a full sweep of prong tommorow, but i doesnt seem to ring the right bell

i was also thinking placebo sorta fits the bill, but couldnt find the song amongst their stuff

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

veruca salt?

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link

hey thar, is it Cyclefly?
also, perhaaaps.. God Lives Underwater, and i will second some investigation re: the Toadies.

― peter doolan (somewhat slightly), Thursday, 28 December 2006 07:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Sense Field are too pussy-ass for this, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s__QUKSWrK0

It sounds like you need BUZZ BALLADS.
http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/drh300/h344/h34477p4g2p.jpg

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 28 December 2006 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

for some reason I am thinking Filter tho I don't know jack about 3/4 time.

"thought this was gonna be kenan posting from the dateline nbc van"

this made my side hurt

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 28 December 2006 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Seconding the toadies as a possibility.

― John Justen, surrounded by frail, wispy people. (John Justen), Thursday, 28 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Can you take it all away?!

I bet this was my anthem for a week circa 2001 (WARNING: Bad Language/hair, etc.)

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 28 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Yo dude is it "Toxicity" by System of a Down?

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It is in 3/4.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

not puddle of mudd or system of a down

still gonna investigate toadies and prong when i get home from work, but neither of those sound right

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

are you fucking with us now?

― jergins (jergins), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Toadies had a bunch of weird time sig songs, I think "Tyler" was in 3/4.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep reading this thread title as "a desperate cry for help from former wilmer"

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/8/88/Wilmer.Valderrama.jpg

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

no im not fuckign with you guys.. the only possibilty is that this memory is completely false, and such a song never existed. but i still refuse to believe i've reduced my brain to such a terrible state...

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

so its definatley more mainstream than some mathrock stuff like shotmaker or three penny opera or something?

― grady (grady), Thursday, 28 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I FUCKING HAVE IT

it came to me all of a sudden on the drive home from work. let me tell you guys. i can finally sleep.

because this thread was so much fun, i wont reveal right away, and instead allow for one more round of guesses, with all new clues, based on facts and not my apparently ridiculous memory.

1. They are canadian
2. the song had a video (probably never saw mtv though, only muchmusic)
3. the verses have some nine inch nailsy synths and 3/4 drums, then guitars come in for prechorus and chorus, male vocals, looks like a 4 piece in the video.
4. the narrowed down year is 2001
5. i can't find them on allmusic.com, so i guess that makes them obscure, in an underfunded canadian band from 6 years ago sorta way
6. seems they did have major canadian label support though

actually now that i think about it i did pretty good on remembering shit about this track.. not too many of my clues were hugely off.

anyway, i leave this open for a little bit, then i'll dissappoint you with actually revealing the track.. cuz its really not mindshatteringly awesome.. just fucking fantastic for me because of the nostalgia and what not..

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Well done!

Look, I think we've all shown pretty clearly that we don't kno(are Rush on allmusic?)

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

haha.. its SUBDIVISIONS by RUSH!

no. offer still stands in case anyone wants a final stab, ill post when i come back home later tonight

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

project wyze? finger 11? glueleg? stabbing westward?

― ^@^ (map), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

ooooohhhh glueleg.. good one. it though of them early on to, but didnt pan out. finger 11s pretty good too, for that sort of music, and they are from right around these parts. not them though. project wyze.. i just remember them sucking, not them. and not stabbing westward either

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

p.s they are on allmusic.. but hard to find, explanation comes later

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link

zuckerbaby?
tea party?

― La Monte Jr. (LaMonte Jr.), Friday, 29 December 2006 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link

here goes:

who the fuck are these guys? ahh canadian music... our record industry make its so easy to forget about under developed artists.. but you can't evade the capture of a determine seeker and youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nzSxAIoxfQ
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:rt9as32ia3zg~T00

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Friday, 29 December 2006 02:27 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, everyone, for all the help. it was GREATLY appreciated.
you have redeemed my faith in this glorious forum

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Friday, 29 December 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link

tool-lite indeed!

― grady (grady), Friday, 29 December 2006 05:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't hate the verses.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 29 December 2006 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link

worst viral marketing trick ever

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 29 December 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

worst band name since co.uk

― electric sound of jim (electric sound of jim), Friday, 29 December 2006 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link

(Are you from Ottawa, grady?)

― sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

nope.

if you're asking because i brought up shotmaker and three penny opera, its because shotmaker came through tucson az when i was in high school and me and all my friends got into them for about six years afterwards.

― grady (grady), Saturday, 30 December 2006 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link

2 things I know about Copyright: the singer was from the legendary band Slow; that first Circle C album was in every used cd shop in Canada for a few years

― todd (todd), Saturday, 30 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

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