Dubstep Grime type thread

wantmixcdwant and want that shackleton tune on it.

someone didnt get the memo

and a Richard Bartz set to get that filth out of your system
http://rapidshare.de/files/25498601/Richard_Bartz_-_Live_at_Club_Flex-Wien-06-15-2004.mp3.html

:D

(d/loading!)

More tracks like this please!

That said, it beats a lot of the rest of what comes out these days so . . .

I think it does sound like all of these things (plus muddy 2-step to boot) but I don't think any of those things sound like the worst thing in concept either.

But maybe I (still!) haven't listened to it enough, because that's a classic novice-type reaction to a dance music scene.

I've said before that I think it would be fruitful for dubstep to expand the dub X jungle equation to allow more room for dancehall, as, for me at least, the music works best when it demonstrates strong resemblances. Both "Qawwali" and "Splash" strike me as being reminiscent of Lenky productions, albeit in very different ways.

I think dubstep needs to be heard with a stupidly big soundsystem behind it at least once before one makes a judgement on it. I have friends into metalcore and stuff, who never listen to any sort of dance music but who have been converted to dubstep from the live experience. They don't listen to the shit in their houses or anything, but they'll come to a dance at the drop of a hat.

I also don't really see it as slowed down jungle or whatever. It seems to be that the most salient thing to note about the beats in dubstep vis-à-vis jungle/2step is that they're more sparse. Not slowed down/murky/constipated - sparse. Kode 9 was talking about somethiig like "the internalisation of the amen" (I paraphrase). We all know it so well that a track doesn't need to have a break in it, the break is implied by the hits that are left in. Join-the-dots rhythms. The reason for making the beats more sparse? Seems to me to be an emphasis on weight. Giving the bass more space to make its impact. This is especially notable in the rise of the halfstep style, it seems to dominate dances now because they're the tracks with the most impact. I'm somewhat ambivalent about this. I still like the garage swing, shuffling high hats and the like. I recently was at a dubstep night and the relentlessness of these halfstep monsters did start to weigh me down. Anti-war dub was such a welcome respite, 4/4 coming as a welcome change.

I suppose tracks like Coki's A side on Tempa 024 "Tortured/Shattered" are what I'm looking for in a big wobbley bass number now. I also really welcome tracks like Qawalli, Left leg out, blood on my hands etc. Steering clear of the formula, stopping this sound from becoming moribund.

I'll raise you http://www.cokemachineglow.com/reviews/villalobos_achso2006.html if you want worst.

this same claim has been made with a lot of minimal house/techno,
but everything sounds better thru quality systems anyway so it's a given, regardless of how subtle yet intricate the production is.

Though yeah, people talking about minimal as if it's all wimpy and stuff really makes no sense when you're having your lungs melted by the kick drum at 5am.

Wheras some minimal stuff seems qualitatively different at lower volumes, rather than just an impaired version of the same thing, more chilled and "interesting" (home listening good). Adding tons of volume and thump can actually be detrimental to that side of it.

This Toastyboy track is lush btw! I'm not sure what's really out there atm (or upcoming) in the way of non-halfstep monsters? Some of the Dub Police/Caspa stuff I scanned a while back sounded a bit "different".

this same claim has been made with a lot of minimal house/techno,

reminds me of that classic thread on old-ilm where dude was all "you're not allowed to have an opinion on AUTECHRE unless you've heard it at a rave over a 10k system with DECENT MIDRANGE RESPONSE"

I have seen autechre live and it was fucking awful! But I likes them on record.

What would really be good would be a compilation focusing on the weirder beat structures emerging (mainly from Bristol and Mala)

upcoming Skull Disco comp. should be good (CD!) I wish I'd had the foresight to wait a bit longer...

Has anyone bought this.

that Tectonic Plates compilation is probably my favourite cd of last year.

Distance cd out shortly, which i am exicited about. MRK-1 out already.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/maryannehobbs/

Vex’D Vs Distance mix:
Sunn 0))) – ‘Sin Nanna’ (Test)
John Richards ft Genia- ‘Suite No 2 for Piano & Electronics’ (Vex'd Remix) (Planet Mu test)
Khanate – ‘Release’ (Hydra Head)
Dillinger Escape Plan – ‘Phone Home’ (Relapse)
Vex'd – ‘Killing Floor’ (Planet Mu)
Distance – ‘Taipan’ (Boka)
Distance – ‘Ska’ (Planet Mu)
Isis – ‘From: Sinking, To: Drowing’ (Destructo Swarmbots) (Robotic Empire)
Distance – ‘Traffic’ (Planet Mu)
Vex'd – ‘Nails’ (Planet Mu)
Napalm Death – ‘Our Pain Is Their Power’ (Century Media)
Celtic Frost – ‘Human’ (Noise)
Godflesh – ‘Vein’ (White)
Sunn 0))) – ‘Cry For The Weeper’ (White)
Techno Animal ft Sonic Sum – ‘DC-10’ (Matador)
Isis – ‘Carry’ (Robotic Empire)
Cult Of Luna – ‘Arrival’ (Earache)
Durrty Goodz – ‘Fire Smasher’ (Dubplate)
Darqwan – ‘Ghost Not Memory’ (Planet Mu Dubplate)

and garage pressure have just updated their podcasts for the first time in a month - 8 hours of mixes for download.

I see the Matmos top 10 from the December ArtForum magazine on their website but not the Kode9 one. Hmmm.