Shane West is Darby Crash in THE COMPRISE OF AN ENTIRE CULTURE

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Everything is fucked. What's next, a bunch of educated 20 sommethings playing with chains of guitar pedals in the basements of east coast book stores?

― Adam Moultin (Crummy Chair), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

well they sure got Rodney's hair right haha

otherwise I hate Hollywood biopics and I'm sure this will be horrible.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

roffle

― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

So, it's like a gay version of Velvet Goldmine?

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Added June 21, 2006

real quick on the uptake, bub. who do you think was singing for the germs on their reunion gigs?

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Without the most important member of the group, I wouldn't call it a reunion.

― Adam Moultin (Crummy Chair), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Ian Astbury?

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Bobby Gillespie?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Without the most important member of the group, I wouldn't call it a reunion.

-- Adam Moultin (adammoulti...), December 21st, 2006. (later)

well i'm sure pat smear, lorna doom and don bolles really give a flying fuck what you think.

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

You seem to!

― Adam Moultin (Crummy Chair), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I know all them original dudez n dudettes were involved but how can this be anything other than yr standard shitty musician biopic (troubled artist's sensitive youth > establish key relationships > big break > montage of "success" > ruined by drugs n fame > martyr THE END *snorrrreeezzzzzzzz*)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - naw not really, i'm just trying to kill my last 20 minutes before going on vacation.

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Id' rather see a good documentary on early LA punk than some lame, generic, Hollywood paint by numbers bio-pic. Just finished reading "We Got the Neutron Bomb" and believe me there are many stories to tell from the inspirational to the sordid. Plus it's always fun to hear old punks bitch about each other and get nostalgic for the "good old days." Besides where else are you going to get Black Randy the Man, the Myth, and the Legend! Now that would be aces.

― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Id' rather see a good documentary on early LA punk than some lame, generic, Hollywood paint by numbers bio-pic.

like "the decline of western civilization, part one"????!?

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that's good, but I want something more comprehensive than "The Decline of Western Civilization." I want to see a documentary that highlights seminal bands like the Weirdo, X, or the Screamers. Bands left out of Spheeris's film because they didn't fit her preconceptions of what LA punk was. Several people interviewed in “We Got the Neutron Bomb" felt that Spheeris manipulated or mis-represented them. It could just be sour grapes, regrets, or attempts to re-write the past, but more than a few people say she often filmed Darby in his worst most totally fucked-up moments.

― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Friday, 22 December 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

X were in Decline. Wasn't that were the famous "throat cancer port" story was told?

― nickn (nickn), Friday, 22 December 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot about X being in there. Didn't they come off looking/sounding rather tired or was that the Urgh video. It's been years since I saw or listened to either. Come to think of it every video I've ever seen of X disappoints me. Live Exene's and Doe's vocals grate on my ears. I've always loved them on record though.

― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Friday, 22 December 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

X are awesome in Decline. You must be thinking of Urgh (forgot they were in that, only one song IIRC). There's also an extended interview where Billy Zoom comes off better than almost anybody else in the film except Dukowski.

― sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 22 December 2006 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i would like an oingo boingo bio pic starring napoleon dynamite as danny elfman.

― chaki (chaki), Friday, 22 December 2006 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

starring bill murray as lee ving

― amon (amon), Friday, 22 December 2006 01:46 (seventeen years ago) link

usher is lamar

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 22 December 2006 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

In every interview I've read Billy Zoom comes off like a pretty likable guy. So why's he so controversial in some circles?

― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Friday, 22 December 2006 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like a less-enjoyable SLC Punk.

I want to see a documentary that highlights seminal bands like the Weirdo, X, or the Screamers.
Be careful what you wish for - you might wind up with a steaming pile like American Hardcore.

― milo (milo), Friday, 22 December 2006 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

compare/contrast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_FKO4Y7u_w

― amon (amon), Friday, 22 December 2006 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i wanna copy of decline.. vol.1 for xmas

― amon (amon), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"Be careful what you wish for - you might wind up with a steaming pile like American Hardcore."

Do not want!!

― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It's questionable how 'Hollywood' the film is being that it was shot at least 2 years ago and no one will show it.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

amon Decline Vol 1 is long out of print.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost - here you go amon http://superhappyfun.com/product.cfm?whereme=802)

morbs - by "hollywood" people mean "shitty"

― baccarat heads spice pushka underdog official texas holdem bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha Laserdisc

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a Japanese laserdisc.

― baccarat heads spice pushka underdog official texas holdem bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

here you go amon pt. II http://www.declinemovies.com/

― amon (amon), Friday, 22 December 2006 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

WHat the hell? I didn't know there was a Part III!

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Saturday, 23 December 2006 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

***"In every interview I've read Billy Zoom comes off like a pretty likable guy. So why's he so controversial in some circles?
-- Ice Ice Cream Baby (docido...), December 22nd, 2006."

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He was pushing extreme right-wing politics for awhile.

― cornyrocker (DC Steve), Sunday, 24 December 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

He's also just got a creepy way about him, both onstage and in interviews.

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Sunday, 24 December 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i bought a copy of decline vol. 1 today thinking it was the dvd rerelease but it seems like a bootleg, ripped from vhs and plays kinda glitchy (in my admittedly crappy dvd player) :------------(

― amon (amon), Sunday, 24 December 2006 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link

ha fuck, i hope i can return this. the shitty quality is bumming me out

― amon (amon), Sunday, 24 December 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i bought a boot of decline part 1 at a yard sale in williamsburg over a year ago, only it only had the germs part, then cut into some old 70s porn. probably better than the original, that way!

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Sunday, 24 December 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

ahhaah. i'm gonna watch it again then return it. i forgot about the whole crappy homemade tattoo scene..punk!!1 circle jerks is still my favorite part

― amon (amon), Sunday, 24 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Black Flag puts on the best performance.

― milo (milo), Sunday, 24 December 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

we carry dvd boot of Decline vol. 1 @ work. i will have to take it home and watch it sometimes; haven't seen it ince i saw a crappy nth generation VHS dub sometime freshman year of high school.

― ian (orion), Sunday, 24 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is Decline 1 so hard to find? Spheeris is (sort of) a name director, the bands featured really aren't in a postion to hold out for big bucks, and it's a significant historic document by this point.

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Sunday, 24 December 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

WHat the hell? I didn't know there was a Part III!

Saw that in the theaters, oddly enough. It has its moments.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 December 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

What's era/scene does it cover, Ned? If it's bullshit '90s skapunk or something, I can't say I'm all that interested.

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

"He was pushing extreme right-wing politics for awhile."

Well that explains it. Still one of my favorite punk guitarists though.

― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

wow. the fact that shane west is making a germs movie is horrendous. are they calling it Decline of Western Civilization p. 3?

― john cameron octigan (cameron octigan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

GREAT MINDS AT WORK

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Has New Wave Theater ever been out on VHS or DVD? I've only seen a few clips on youtube. One of them had the Cirlce Jerks and another featured the Suburban Lawns. Don't think there are any Germs clips though from New Wave Theater.

― Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Thursday, 28 December 2006 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link

What's era/scene does it cover, Ned? If it's bullshit '90s skapunk or something, I can't say I'm all that interested.

90s homeless gutter punks i believe

― amon (amon), Thursday, 28 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Has New Wave Theater ever been out on VHS or DVD?

Rhino had them out on VHS, but those are long out of print. I remember the Plugz being on it also.

― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 28 December 2006 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

pt 3 comvers the hollywood anarcho-crust scene

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:39 (seventeen years ago) link

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