time for my annual thread about how our 11-20 lists are sometimes more interesting than our top 10 lists...BUT IN A SANDBOX

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a.k.a. "The Tyranny of Ten"

my ALBUMS
11. Los Lobos, The Town and the City (loved it all year but it fell victim to records that felt more vital to me at year's end)
12. Tom Zé, Estudando o Pagode (I got sick of those little voices but it's brilliant)
13. Swordfishtrombones, Blood and Milk (Czech neo-wave band, sounds like the Cure kinda)
13. Los Amigos Invisibles, Superpop Venezuela (love this record so much)
14. Tego Calderón, The Underdog/El Subestimado (bumped at the last second)
15. Nellie McKay, Pretty Little Head (I love her lots but production didn't sparkle)
16. Dani Siciliano, Slappers (too laidback maybe?)
17. Jessi Colter, Out of the Ashes (my top country record)
18. Intocable, Crossroads: Cruce de Caminos (wow Ramos' voice is so beautiful)
19. Julieta Venegas, Limón y Sal (maybe too pretty for its own good
20. TIE: Gigi, Gold and Wax (all the right people but Laswell coasts again), CSS, Cansei De Ser Sexy (don't trust myself on this one because Lovefoxxx is so hottt to me)

― Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

singles later when I'm not totally busted at work

― Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

c'mon Matt, the real excitement lies between 21 and 30 as any fule know.

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

sigh, i can never decide whether to include mix cds as albums, i have no idea how to do these lists

i have managed to narrow down my top 10 singles to 200

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

stevem knows his lists.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

that's insane

xpost

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

no it's not enrique, not when you like dance AND pop AND hip-hop AND r&b and in fact are open to all genres ever except one

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

oh dont get me started on 21-30, that list is PURE GOLD

― Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah yeah

xpost

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't like to include mix CDs.

i'm doing a combined albums and tracks list tho (as last year). will stick on the general ilxors lists thread when ready.

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

still subject to change but:

11 cassie, cassie
12 clipse, hell hath no fury
13 nelly furtado, loose
14 lupe fiasco, food & liquor
15 amel larrieux, morning
16 joanna newsom, ys
17 rasheeda, ga peach
18 scott walker, the drift
19 my my, songs for the gentle
20 e40, my ghetto report card

(for ref, top 10 = ellen allien & apparat, paris hilton, the knife, ciara, junior boys, justin timberlake, beyoncé, booka shade, ti, fuckpony) (mixes not included)

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex will probably find the 50-41 section of my list the most alluring (except perhaps number 41 itself).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i've read your list marcello...can't remember what exactly is where but yes it appeared to be the wrong way round, ace stuff in the lower half and a rather bemusing top 20 full of dull canadian indie

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

OH SHIT

i forgot fergie!

put her at 14, under nelly f

sorry e40, some brilliant stuff on the album but it's wearying by the end

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, if fergie is at 14, i really can discount 196 of your choices.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

get your list out for the lads enrique

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i can guarantee there would be no fergie, if such a list existed, even it it was 200 long. i never made lists even when i listened to music though!

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

freak

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i rediscovered my lists from ten years ago the other day. how the interweb has managed without them all this time i have no idea.

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

11. The Knife - Silent Shout
12. Ellen Allien and Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles
13. Belle and Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
14. Phoenix - It's Never Been Like That
15. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds
16. The Changes - Today is Tonight
17. Booka Shade - Movements
18. LCD Soundsystem - 45:33
19. The Rapture - Pieces of the People We Love
20. Luomo - Paper Tigers

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i liked *reading* lists just because it's quite easy to miss stuff. in fact the old nme/mm lists would often, with non-indie music, say "this was blowing up all over 1995" in the EOYL, but they hadn't necessarily made much of it at the time. something like 'clubbed to death' which i don't think charted and maybe got second single of the week etc, and didn't get much radio 1 airplay. anyway, if lex has some gems of that calibre in his top 13, i would like to see 'em.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

and a rather bemusing top 20 full of dull canadian indie

LEX MUST DIE

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i notice you used the past tense re 'listened to music' tho - so why care about Lex's or anyone's lists still?

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Subject to change at any given moment due to needing more time to listen to certain records.

11. Too Short - Blow The Whistle
12. Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
13. DJ Quik - Live At The House Of Blues
14. Andy Montanez - "Salsaton" Salsa Con Reggaeton
15. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
16. The Game - Doctor's Advocate
17. Nore Y La Familia - Ya Tu Sabe
18. Cansei De Ser Sexy
19. Diddy - Press Play
20. Pitbull - El Mariel

― Rodney picks up his saxophone and dooms the white power structure (Rodney J. Gre, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

our top 20s did share one album marcello! (and fiona apple made my top 20 last year.)

did i somehow escape you liking broken social scene, final fantasy, sloan and jenny lewis over the past few years though? also i like cat power fine but the greatest is not that great. also arctic monkeys, that placing was a joke, right?

xp oh SHIT i forgot pitbull and haven't heard p diddy yet. or janet. gah.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

That Pitbull album is kind of dodgy. I wish I had a better #20.

― Rodney picks up his saxophone and dooms the white power structure (Rodney J. Gre, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i just noticed the extent to which my favourite r&b kicked most of my favourite hip-hop out of my top 10 this year! hurrah for girls

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

11.Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins- Rabbit Fur Coat (More Bobbie Gentry impressions, less Conor Oberst)
12.Sway- This Is My Demo (more Ludacris impressions, less songs that sound they charted at 63 back in 1998)
13.Tanya Morgan- Moonlighting (Little Brother only not shit)
14.Planningtorock- Have It All (This is the kind of music I am not going to listen to in 2007)
15.Caparezza- Habeaus Capa (lol i-ties)
16.Me First and the Gimme Gimmes- Love Their Country (veterans put out best album to date)
17.Belle and Sebastian- The Life Pursuit (veterans put out second worst album to date)
18.Morningwood- Morningwood (Chris Griffin speaks truth: "BOOBIES")
19.The Ditty Bops- Under A Moonlit Highway (Dorothy Parkour)
20.Bubba Sparxxx- The Charm (Remember when this came out any everyone loved it for about 11 seconds?)

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

re. "Clubbed To Death" I note that mine was the ONLY list anywhere in 2003 to include the Rob Dougan album. Another lost classic... :-(

"Less Conor Oberst" is a good idea generally I think.

OTM about Sway (yes "Little Derek," yes "Pretty Ugly Husband," no to the quarter-arsed Jay-Z impressions elsewhere).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I just noticed my only having two rap albums in my top ten, (and one is reggaeton, and thus may not count) so my 11-20 is, like, overcompensation.

― Rodney picks up his saxophone and dooms the white power structure (Rodney J. Gre, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Only three hip hop albums in my list. I'll probably regret not putting in Fishscale but with the J Dilla album it's sort of in there anyway.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

it's because most hip-hop albums are still too long! apart from the clipse, which is...just not as good as cassie. but marvellous nevertheless.

i forgot to hear fishscale. i also have a suspicion that donuts would not get half the plaudits it's received if j dilla hadn't died.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Donuts is the kind of album that's interesting in theory but has no entertainment value whatsoever.

― Rodney picks up his saxophone and dooms the white power structure (Rodney J. Gre, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I really like "Workinonit" and so I was excited to hear Donuts in its entirety. I think I've put it on a grand total of twice.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

fuck, forgot kelis in my list - that would def be in my top 20. am gonna have to redo. fuck.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Donuts is the kind of album that's interesting in theory but has no entertainment value whatsoever.

Oh, so it's like Night Ripper then?

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Night Ripper is great, and anyone who would place Donuts over it as far as sample collages go is a miserable bastard.

― Rodney picks up his saxophone and dooms the white power structure (Rodney J. Gre, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

11. T.I. - King
12. TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain
13. DJ Drama & Lil' Wayne - Dedication 2
14. Love Is All - 9 Times That Same Song
15. AZ - The Format
16. Mastodon - Blood Mountain
17. Ray Cash - Cash on Delivery
18. Killer Mike - I Pledge Allegiance to the Grind
19. Girl Talk - Night Ripper
20. The Futureheads - News & Tributes

I really want to put Joe Budden's Mood Muzik 2 there, since I listened to it a lot this year and didn't put it on any lists last year. But it came out in December '05, I think. If I can include it, it takes the 11 spot and pushes off the Futureheads.

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

11. Axolotl Way Blank Psych-o-Path
12. Coachwhips Double Death Narnack
13. Diskaholics Live In Japan Vol. 1 Load
14. Tam Tam Ecstatic Peace
15. Psalm One The Death of Frequent Flyer Rhymesayers
16. Be Your Own Pet Be Your Own Pet Ecstatic Peace!/Universal
17. Mission of Burma The Obliterati Matador
18. Stereolab Fab Four Suture Too Pure/Beggars
19. Matmos The Rose Has Teeth in the Mouth of a Beast Matador
20. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti House Arrest Paw Tracks

― Ray Cummings (skateboardr), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I've not heard Night Ripper since it hasn't yet been released in Britain. I'd like to though.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 December 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"released"

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Meaning?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Meaning that technically, yes, it was released in the U.S. on a (renegade) label, and you can buy it in (some independent) stores, but it's just funny to be concerned about legally purchasing a record that's constructed from hundreds of unquestionably illegal samples.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

And I'm not even a huge advocate for downloading or anything, it's just that if the only thing that's preventing you from hearing this record is your inability to purchase it in a store, then I think you can feel okay about getting this one for free.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Sometimes I wonder why I bother.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Not sure what that means. But I guess also what I'm saying is that I'd be surprised if Night Ripper was ever "released" (i.e., commercially) in Britain.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i hope it stays that way, it sounds like the most disgusting album ever. get that filthy indie away from lovely aaliyah, &c

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh go and mangle a washerwoman in Finchley will you?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex, but don't you think that the recontextualization of indie into soundbites framed by a hip-hop beat is a very pop thing to do? I'd have thought the disposability of it would be something that would appeal to you. Or do you just really hate the sound of guitars that much?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

He's a sensitive soul. Their serrated edge frightens him.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

11. Grizzly Bear - Yellow House
12. Ocrilim - Anoint
13. P.O.S. - Audition
14. Tim Hecker - Harmony In Ultraviolet
15. Liars – Drum’s Not Dead
16. Made Out Of Babies - Coward
17. Man Man - Six Demon Bag
18. Various Artists - Invaders
19. Lupe Fiasco - Food And Liquor
20. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I think my 21-30 list is more interesting actually!

21. Nachtmystium - Instinct: Decay
22. Gnarls Barkley - St. Elsewhere
23. Asunder - Works Will Come Undone
24. The Roots - Game Theory
25. J Dilla - Donuts
26. Youngbloodz – Ev’rybody Know Me
27. E-40 - My Ghetto Report Card
28. Fucked Up - Hidden World
29. Rick Ross - Port Of Miami
30. Trentemoller - The Last Resort

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

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