Let's discuss Stylus Magazine's End-of-Year Lists in a respectful fashion

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I still am surprised that Lily Allen did crack that Singles Top 50, even if it was only #45.

I honestly can't predict anybody's No. 1 single this year not even Stylus' or Pitchfork's. Mostly down to '06 being a crummy year for music overall with only a few really good singles brightening things up.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, I see what you did there.

Link?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Erm...

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

06 was a great year! if you think it was a crummy year it's your fault that your ears were in the wrong places

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

For reference, I guess.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

06 was a great year! if you think it was a crummy year it's your fault that your ears were in the wrong places

Quite possibly. I think 06 was a better year Singles-wise (but in quality of the few singles that really shone rather than quantity of decent singles) than the past few years but overall, I wasn't really feeling it this year.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah right, more laterzz..

I dunno, it seems there is no place where you get to hear a general issue of singles anymore.

In years past, I got round this by buying loads of singles.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I should mention that the OMM Top 20 lists were depressingly predictable and awful.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

this moan comes up every year. here's a thought, maybe it's just the lists themselves which are awful and not the music

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought I was complaining about the lists!

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i voted in this, but i only ever count stuff I heard on the radio or video channels as 'singles' and have never heard half of the songs on Stylus's list (I guess a fair amount of that charted in the U.K. or somewhere, though). i know what the top 10 is and i'm guessing that the #1 is one of those things i've never heard.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring back Rosko's Round Table I say.

Yesterday's OMM was depressingly predictable and awful full stop.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah!

Malcolm Laycock used to have a show like this also, on BBC Radio London.

(I only remember his name as I was on the show once)

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Did 'Cobrastyle' also make Stylus '04 list?

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Great year for singles definitely. Poor year for albums. Reminds me a bit of 2002.

― Tim F (Tim F), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Malcolm Laycock, currently presenter of the dance band/big band show on Radio 2 which Alan Dell used to do.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

06 was a great year!

yes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I say quite a poor year personally, both for single and albums. I've just not been excited or impressed enough by what I've heard (there's still a lot I haven't heard tho), for which I/my ears accept only half the blame.

I still am surprised that Lily Allen did crack that Singles Top 50, even if it was only #45.

I don't get what is surprising about it given her general popularity and esp. the general popularity of that song.

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I see her latest b-side is "Everybody Changes" as per Keane.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't think the Stylus Brainstrust was going to rank Lily Allen at all in the year-end list, tbqh. I'm wondering if Dom remembered to post in his vote.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Promise at 47, Way Out at 46 = don't have high hopes for Lexpop here.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, my tips would be Over And Over or Promiscuous. Maybe Standing In The Way Of Control but I doubt it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Over And Over for Jan '07 reissue and Olive-style number one second time around: discuss.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

it's already been re-released or re-entered the chart once a fe weeks back. i just didn't think that many people actually watched The Culture Show.

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

is the stylus list tracks that were actually released as singles or single tracks?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

oh god it's the same every year... no-ones ears were in the same place, nobody heard it all out of everything out there, lots of stuff overpromoted, overhyped, plenty more underrated & underexposed, people like different things and it's all subjective in the end, always someone complaining about someone else having an ultimately meaningless opinion about it.

my 2 euro - not the greatest year I can remember for singles or albums OF THOSE I'VE HEARD (opinion subject to change upon retrospective purchaes).

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

this should be in the top 10

Mahogany - Supervitesse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CbJuE8OgDs

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

and this:

Field Music - In Context
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBqx9Tpmj-U

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd be surprised if those two don't make it, they were pretty inescapable in the clubs this year.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

like you of all people would know

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

The basis of these end-of-year list threads are always horribly flawed but it produces good and interesting discussion, and I'm willing to pay that price!

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

If not for the whole Dubstep breakout thing I'd be far more down on the year all told.

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

like you of all people would know

-- lexpretend (lexusjee...), December 11th, 2006.

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― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

is the stylus list tracks that were actually released as singles or single tracks?

Released as singles in at least some part of the world.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

is this thread about dubstep?

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Dubstep and catgirls, yeah.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

feel free to post about anything except music released during the year yep

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

in a respectful fashion i.e. the first post of the thread.

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't love - or even really like - any of the songs on the stylus list so far - very british! even the stuff that isn't! - but i do LOVE the links to youtube for everything. man, life before youtube, i'm glad i can't remember what it was like. it must have been AWFUL.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Rolling 2006 Singles Thread

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Lallen and Momus are the only two Brit acts on the top 10! And I'm pretty sure someone's trying to revoke Mommy's citizenship somewhere.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

(until March 21st, 2006 5:29 AM.) :/

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Brit acts on the "bottom" 10. I can exclusively reveal than "Smile" and "Another Momus Single" aren't in our top 10.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

No darkwave in the Stylus list!
They are CLUELESS
Solution: disemploy all Stylus staff - send them back to 1988 where they belong.
Employ diverse spectrum of contemporary writers interested in:
Japstep, Scilly Isles IDM, Drum 'N' Bass.
Nick Luscombe gets sacked from XFM and Lily Allen gets deified!
Wake up Stylus!

― DJ Punctum (nostudium), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

'Over and Over' will be not even in the Top 5, they are white, male and British, not a winner combination at Stylus these days.
In the Top 5 there will be mainly R@B and hiphop based tracks (Promiscuous, My Love, Hurt, but NOT "Crazy"!), or perhaps something from My Chemical Romance or The Knife.

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

FAKE GEIR

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

What is this "Over and Over"?

― Rodney and His Gang vs. Mr. Tooth Decay (Rodney J. Greene), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Hot Chip.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

ft. Nelly and Tim McGraw.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Who are Hot Chip? I've heard the name floated around, I guess. Are they dahnce music? It sounds like a dahncey name to me.

― Rodney and His Gang vs. Mr. Tooth Decay (Rodney J. Greene), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

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If there's a problem with "Crazy," it's definitly not that it's too fast. I've heard some of those slow live versions and they are awful.

― arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 17 December 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"Pull Shapes" is fucking awful.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 17 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

COSIGN

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Sunday, 17 December 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

god yeah it is. are they talking about a remix we're not privy to?

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 17 December 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't stride in a nimble way, it's impossible.

matt THIS IS HOW I MOVE. AT ALL TIIIIIIMES.

'pull shapes' is funny. it's not v good but it amuses me when sundry rape fantasists are all like IT'S AWFUL cos they have issues with girls in pretty vintage dresses ~~turning them down~~ ~~being nazis~~ wvs.

i'm mostly surprised that non-uk people heard it to vote for it in the first place; all that proves is that it is too easy these days for americans to hear crap british indie.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 18 December 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

'what you know' is so fucking good though.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 18 December 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

When did Lex become my own personal Stan? Did I miss a meeting?

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 18 December 2006 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

who is stan?

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 18 December 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

nice one on the inclusion of sasse's "loosing touch"!! i played the dub of that one like crazy this year.

awesome gnarls photo at the bottom/top there...

― josh (josh.), Monday, 18 December 2006 01:53 (seventeen years ago) link

who is stan?

Stan Boardman, Liverpool comedian.

Not too plzed about the 'sundry' there.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 18 December 2006 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Hearing "Pull Shapes" for the first time, it's a great song, but what does the titular phrase have to do with anything. It seems like they just picked two words at random.

To pull shapes is a horrible (70s? earlier?) expression meaning to dance.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like to see the Pipettes in 'hip hop' clobber

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Haven't the pippettes stopped yet? FFS . . .

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't stride in a nimble way, it's impossible.

matt THIS IS HOW I MOVE. AT ALL TIIIIIIMES.

"Well you can tell by the way I use my walk..."

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

stride nimbly? stagger drunkenly more like

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

matt was otm, nimble is like, nimble fingers, or walking along ledges type shit.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i totally stride nimbly!

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes at the same time as staggering drunkenly

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't be stately and funky at the same time, one detracts from the other.

:-O

― Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

P.Funk has disproven your theory.

― Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

And King Gustav.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the thing about 'promiscuous' is that i don't think 'promiscuous' is even the word they're looking for, it's not about promiscuity in any way and yet they pluck that word out of nowhere as some bizarro compliment to each other.

I figured that was the whole point ... she's doing this cocktease charade while he tries to act all smooth about it, but they both realize that they're only playing characters in a courtship sequence that is well-known to both of them. Where it's all leading isn't in doubt from the very start.

― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Before anyone asks, I'm not mentioning the Pitchfork list. To the devil you go, Timberlake.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

In Amy Diamond, the racist creeps at Stylus finally found their wettest dream—a fourteen-year-old Norwegian girl squeaking out agonizingly precise pop music about subjects she probably has no real concept of.

smirk

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

what's nimble about "what you know" is the vocal. t.i.'s way more playful than he is declarative. he dances around the beat, and he has a lot of room because of the song's slow glide. and you can definitely be stately and funky -- second-line rhythms, e.g. the production is big, but it rolls more than it thuds. the description in the write-up makes the song sound like some kind of show of brute force, which is not how i hear it at all.

― tipsy mothra (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Surprised that Final Fantasy is so low. If I'd been allowed to vote for albums (not just singles), it probably would've been higher: it's my #3.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Who are the gents in the cover/header between Kyp Malone & Ghostface?

― Rodney picks up his saxophone and dooms the white power structure (Rodney J. Gre, Monday, 18 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The one on the left is John Darnielle.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

And the one on the right is probably Craig Finn (Hold Steady)...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Judge for yourself:

http://static.flickr.com/10/13287898_76ebb8e4de.jpg?v=0

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe Sasse's Loosing Touch is as high as it is. The vocal sounds like something lifted from Udo Kier's character in My Own Private Idaho.

― Super (Super), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

So Stylus got rid of comments?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i hope for good!

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too. RIP The Dis-Exists, meatbreak, cwperry, JessGraves, raskolnikov, Zarklephaser, and the rest.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Nope, I think that's all of them. I hope they swapped email addresses :(

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

We're in ur comments box, mistaking it for a ~~message board~~ chat room.

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Kindly stuff at $5 bill in Jess Graves' cup on your way out, please.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

at least a couple of those are also ilm-ers aren't they?

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

well, they certainly all seemed like the same person with viewpoints cleverly contrived to make as much noise as possible. as the joker says in the original batman after electrocuting the guy with the hand-buzzer, "you are a vicious bastard, rotelli, and i'm glad you're dead."

― mike powell (mike powell), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

and re: nimble v. funky, i do think that funky and stately aren't diametrically opposed, but i also agree with matt upthread that "what you know" banks more on its HUGEITUDE than its bounce. hugeitude isn't exclusive to the aforementioned 'roll,' but come on, it's not 'rubber band man' and it's definitely not 'bring 'em out.'

― mike powell (mike powell), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Zarklephaser posts to ILX as Stephen Bush or something to that effect.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I would assume a Stylus list wouldn't this fucking indie, but Jesus Fucking Christmas.

― Rodney picks up his saxophone and dooms the white power structure (Rodney J. Gre, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link

GHOSTFACE

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

KILLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, NEVA COULD BE ILLA!!!!

(well actually could, this is like his fourth-best album)

― Rodney is wise enough to know when a gift needs givin' (Rodney J. Greene), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

If you mean Supreme Clientele > Ironman >= Cuban Linx* > Fishscale I won't hate on that.

― f. scott baio (natepatrin), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Rather: Supreme > Toney > Ironman > Fishscale

I wasn't taking OB4CL into concideration, but the point stands either way.

― Rodney is wise enough to know when a gift needs givin' (Rodney J. Greene), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

This is kinda like giving the Cy Young to Trevor Hoffman this season.

― turd burglary (turd burglary), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

best bulletproof wallets tracks > best fishscale tracks

― deej (deej), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

this is a pretty good list though.

― deej (deej), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Toney's better than Clientele.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

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