I hate that "Dreamer, dreamer/Now you put your hands in your head/Oh no!" song.

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― Tim Ellison is number one proponent of Beatle!!!Mania!!! on nu-ILX (tim ellison), Saturday, 9 December 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

tim you are about to suffer the full wrath of SUPERTRAMP FANATIXXX

― Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

song is solid, you suck

― Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Saturday, 9 December 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

better than any rem song of the last 10 years ;-)

― bliss (blass), Saturday, 9 December 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

i hate that remake of "take a look at my girlfriend/she's the only one i got."

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Saturday, 9 December 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

"School" pwnz everything else on Crime of the Century. I still dig that album though. dreamer never bugged me. i would think bloody well right might bug people more. not me though.

― scott seward (121212), Saturday, 9 December 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

OOOOOOH WHAT A DAY A YEAR A LIFE IT IS

I like Supertramp enough but "Dreamer" ("head in your hands" obv) never did all that much for me. "Hide In Your Shell" is almost as good as "School" though. And, yeah, I don't hate it but the Gym Class Heroes/Patrick Stump takeoff on "Breakfast In America" is pretty pointless aside from introducing people to the original. I don't know what it is with Supertramp lately, between that and the "Give a Little Bit" cover. I heard them both at the gym this week.

― sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Saturday, 9 December 2006 08:36 (nineteen years ago)

My newfound love for mid-to-late-70s soft rock stops at Supertramp, sorry.

― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Saturday, 9 December 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

keybs on "Dreamer" > everything Of Montreal will ever do

― Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Saturday, 9 December 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

keybs on "Bloody Well Right" > everything boards of canada will ever do

― scott seward (121212), Saturday, 9 December 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I feel you

― Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Saturday, 9 December 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

keybs on "Dreamer" > everything Of Montreal will ever do

No way, but I do actually like that keyboard part.

There's just this pretense to topicality in Supertramp that is SO fey and cloying, don't you think? I mean, "The Logical Song" is appalling.

"head in your hands" obv

No, it's "hands in your head" first and then he turns it around to "Now, you've got your head in your hands."

― Tim Ellison is number one proponent of Beatle!!!Mania!!! on nu-ILX (tim ellison), Saturday, 9 December 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Logical Song" and "Breakfast in America" and "Goodbye Stranger" are all from the Breakfast In America album, which was if not a huge change for them, a marked overture toward the pop charts. Crime of the Century and Crisis? What Crisis? are both semi-proggy/noodly stuff that was liked by ELP-heads 'n' stuff. And that sorta proggy tendency to pontificate about how sad the world of normal people is/was...shit just went with the territory

Jesus fuck I know too much about Supertramp's career arc, ask me about the Rodger Hodgson solo work sometime why don'tcha, or better yet shoot me in the brain

― Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

that sorta proggy tendency to pontificate about how sad the world of normal people is/was...shit just went with the territory

Maybe it's more true of later Supertramp, but it seems to me that even in "Dreamer" I'm hearing something closer to that fey Cat Stevens sentimentality. I don't know how much I hear that in classic prog.

― Tim Ellison is number one proponent of Beatle!!!Mania!!! on nu-ILX (tim ellison), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

The sentiments of "Logical Song"/"School"/"Hide In Your Shell" aren't that far removed from Pink Floyd, are they? I always kind of thought of the two bands in a similar way. Don't know Cat Stevens that well though.

― sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, "Dreamer", in Supertramp-o-verse terms, is a very(ish) good song.

better than any rem song of the last 10 years ;-)
(*does little 'matics on one's 'tihtic fingres*)
That's since 1997? Sorry wink dude, yer wronk.

― tiit (t**t), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I always thought that Supertramp fitted in nicely with 10cc and Steely Dan in that 70's soft rock smartass territory (as opposed to most of the other AM stuff, which was almost always staggeringly straight-faced.) Of course those three groups play their satire to varying effects, not comparing the 'tramp to the Dan qualitywise or anything.

Cat Stevens? Well, yeah, "Matthew & Son", I guess.

― Daniel Reifferscheid (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

"There's just this pretense to topicality in Supertramp that is SO fey and cloying, don't you think? I mean, "The Logical Song" is appalling."

how is the logical song "topical" exactly? cliche maybe. especially in the 70's when pink floyd and the punkers were all going on about the man and the machine.

― scott seward (121212), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

you can't blame supertramp for anything. for, as they have told us, we are ALL to blame:

Now they're planning the crime of the century
Well what will it be?
Read all about their schemes and adventuring
It's well worth a fee
So roll up and see
And they rape the universe
How they've gone from bad to worse
Who are these men of lust, greed, and glory?
Rip off the masks and let's see.
But that's no right - oh no, what's the story?
There's you and there's me
That can't be right

― scott seward (121212), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I suppose that word is often just used to refer to politics. I meant psychology in that song as this supposedly compelling TOPIC. The song is really cheap sentiment, I think. (And I think that's where it's different from later Pink Floyd even if the subject matter is similar.)

x-post

― Tim Ellison is number one proponent of Beatle!!!Mania!!! on nu-ILX (tim ellison), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Definition 4 here. But definition 2 ("contemporary issues"), too, in that I see expressions of this angst as being very typical of '60s/'70s culture (like, you know, Simon and Garfunkel, Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, etc.).

top·i·cal (tp-kl)
adj.
1. Of or belonging to a particular location or place; local.
2. Currently of interest; contemporary.
3. Medicine
a. Of or applied to a localized area of the body or to the surface of a body part.
b. Of or relating to a drug applied topically.
4. Of, arranged by, or relating to a particular topic or topics.

― Tim Ellison is number one proponent of Beatle!!!Mania!!! on nu-ILX (tim ellison), Saturday, 9 December 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

take a loook at my girlfriend, girlfriend/She's the only one I got.
Not much of a girlfriend, girlfriend/ [not sure what this next line is, but its either she doesnt seem to get alot or I never seem to get a lot...something like that--either way its freakin brilliant!!!] (view more)

― PEW (PEW), Saturday, 9 December 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

the keyboards in this are memorable i think, but for some reason when my brain tries to play it through, my memory keeps morphing it into Manfred Mann's Blinded By The Light instead. are they so similar?

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 9 December 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, same continuous eighth note keyboard chords going on.

― Tim Ellison is number one proponent of Beatle!!!Mania!!! on nu-ILX (tim ellison), Saturday, 9 December 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Dude's voice makes me want to stab my eardrums out.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 9 December 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

More annoying: "Dreamer" or "Goodbye Stranger" or "It's Raining Again"?

― A Radio Picture (Factory Sample Not For Sale), Sunday, 10 December 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hint: Any answer is correct.

― A Radio Picture (Factory Sample Not For Sale), Sunday, 10 December 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

"It's Raining Again" is a total icepick through the eyeball no doubt, awful shit, but "Goodbye Stranger" is great, again with the awesome electric piano, Supertramp 0wnz you punk kids with their insightful above-the-fray sketches of the human condition!! tho the best S-tramp album is Crisis? What Crisis?

― Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Sunday, 10 December 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

the cover of Crisis? What Crisis? was thirty years ahead of its time

― Bob Six (Bob Six), Sunday, 10 December 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

it's all about "even in the quietest moments", people.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Sunday, 10 December 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

"It's Raing Agian" is fucking awesome you crazy fule.

― My Life in the Ghosts of Bush (Modal Fugue), Sunday, 10 December 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

Not if you live somewhere like the Lake District or Manchester where it really does rain most of the year.

I can't hear that song without memories of a miserable year in Lancaster.

― Bob Six (Bob Six), Sunday, 10 December 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

We went to the Lake District a fortnite ago. Yes it do piss down every 5 minutes. "IT's raimg men again" is still grebt.

― My Life in the Ghosts of Bush (Modal Fugue), Sunday, 10 December 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Not if you live somewhere like the Lake District or Manchester where it really does rain most of the year.

why oh why has the Fall not covered "It's Raining Again," ftw

― Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Sunday, 10 December 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

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