DIG! the Brian Jonestown Massacre vs Dandy Warhols rockumentary C/D

Anton's doing a lot better these days, it seems. The BJM have been touring the UK quite extensively -they played the Astoria recently IIRC.

Other people would know more. I don't keep in touch with anyone from that scene any more.

But that could just be me...

that whole kicking in the head bit is retarded. anton gets his ex on to sing a song and introduces her as his "sister". At the end of the song a fan shouts "Fuck your sister, she rocks!" or something, which Anton takes literally as a request to fuck his sister. He then challenges the guy to a fight and kicks him in the head quite hard from the stage. He gets sent down for assault with a deadly weapon because a kick from a boot is counted as deadly.

Ha ha ha ha ha, sorry. I don't know if you did that intentionally, but that's pretty funny.

I think that was the point of the film - that Courtney was making a rock star living out of pretending to act out Anton's *actual* living on the very boho edge, which was literally killing him. They're two sides of the same coin.

Neither of them are particularly savory characters at the end of the day. Being a "Poseur" means you survive, as opposed to being an actual "authentic" hobo (ha ha, typo but I'll leave it) boho freakshow.

COurtney was completely in love with Anton, with his lifestyle, with his danger, with his "erratic genius" etc. (the man is actually an incredibly gifted musician - WHEN he has his act together, it's sad that that is something that doesn't come through in the film) - but Courtney is always too busy looking in the mirror to ever actually *lose it* and *lose himself* in the Classic Romantic Self Immolation that being that person requires. Going that far scared him - rightly so. (If you pretend too hard to that lifestyle, you turn into Pete fucking Doherty - an utter joke.)

I don't think the question is, who is the bigger cunt (answer: they BOTh are.) the question is - which makes the more interesting art?

Someone who lives the art themselves, burning the candle at both ends?

Or someone who stays detached, like Andy Warhol, observing and maybe documenting like a camera?

Who makes better art? The Candle or the Camera? Or do they both need each other, in some kind of parasitic symbiosis?

A Camera is nothing with the fuel of other people's fuckedupness to burn. A Candle without a Camera documenting their suicide burns out without a trace.

These are the questions that this film raised, for me.

Dah, I take it that's not how you spell it? That's the name of an obscure 65DaysOfStatic track I had lying around and so that's how I've always spelled it. Oh yeah "primadonna" right.

These are the questions that this film raised, for me.

I'd agree with that. Sadly there wasn't enough of Anton's art to be able to judge, just from the film.

A short set by both should have ben an extra on the DVD, if not the actual film, really.

I've not seen it.

Anyone watch the commentary w/ the Dandys? When Courtney talks about giving away half his royalties no one says a fucking word :-D

that Jonestown Massacre is boring.

realy good documentary, i never thought i'd get so engrossed in the saga of two b.s. 90s alt rock also-rans, but damn if i wasn't riveted!

that courtney guy is a toolbox as well.

the only guy i liked was the joel (?) guy that just played tamborine, he seemed kool.

funny to see a young member of black rebel motorcycle club in it!

Also:

"Where did the blood come from?"
"Other people's faces!!"

How can you not love the guy.

Best bit of the movie: girl out of the Dandys getting her tits out.

http://www.doheth.co.uk/files/milhouse-eyebrow.jpg

aww, man, they look so much better when she's wearing a shirt.

She really is. She came up and talked to me after their performance on Regis and Kelly for a minute or two.