THE DROWNERS

the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bsRJDx5hM4

the suede version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDyKYlMunQk&feature=related

couldnt click on this fast enough

Suede

Suede, even though FSA are better in almost every other way. Sorry.

the suede version was the original! apologies if you were joking.

I was all ready to vote for the fuzzy dronies of the FSA cover, but then I clicked on the Suede video and Bret Anderson's abdomen exposure just took me OOOOOOH-VAH!

i vote for whiney

Would it not be possible to have ~one single thread~ on the sandbox that didn't just turn into stupid meta beefs for a change?

Because I got like 40,000 jpegs of Bret Anderson's belly that I'm currently refraining from spamming up the thread!!!

^^^^^yes, this is a complete joke-threat, not a real one, but seriously, people. I don't actually care either way about whiney to dislike him, it's p easy to avoid him - but I am *completely* sick of the way other people being unable to stop themselves from bringing him up just infects every damn thread.

I'm gonna take my hangover off the internet before I actually get annoyed for real.

OH GOD I shouldn't have said that, now this thread is gonna become Whiney: Classic Or Dud part EIGHT BILLION until the earth falls into the sun and really who needs that shit when there Bret Anderson and fuzzy shoegaze guitars in the world. blah. shoot me.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/files/2011/07/LW_Brett_1_F1_1__1411846a.jpg

meta beef? i like the guy enough to rib him given half the chance.

can't believe suede butchered this fsa classic :(

voted for the droners

Glowering moody Bret Anderson = TEH BEST.

(Have I mentioned recently the time he siddled up to me, grabbed me and hugged me? I haven't? Jesus Christ, I still haven't gotten over it yet. *explodes* repeatedly)

Getting that "I can remember when these people looked so old, now they look so young" feeling.

i had never seen the video for this song and had the same feeling i had watching pulp videos recently wondering how repulsed i would have been by these bands if i had actually been fully exposed to their aesthetic choices.

lol

i mean i wasn't totally ignorant, i definitely had the issue of select magazine or whatever where bret had a painted-on shirt, and enjoyed it at the time. but hey the music of that period aged very well and the look did not at all.

i love the fsa verzh of this so much

so much so that i am writing to my elected representatives to demand a name or at least acronym change for the financial services authority

what happened to

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dave+Pearce+%282%29

Wow, I'd never heard the FSA version before - it's pretty good although I don't like the vocals so much. Shoegaze was *slightly* before my time as far as getting into indie goes so I never realised the links between it and britpop until much later. 'To the Birds' sounds totally shoegaze to me, for example.

I dunno, I'm still very fond of these bands "aesthetic choices" - especially Suede (my THOTS on Pulp's visual style are v tainted by my dislike of the band.)

Maybe that's just my age, that I'm the right age to have worn those kinds of clothes, both in the late 80s/early 90s from charity shops and back in the 70s as a child.

But that is kind of part of the whole aesthetic - that it's not just a nostalgic harkening back to childhood fashions of the 70s, but also deeply tied in with the lifestyle - and a lifestyle born of need, rather than choice. Because that late 80s/early 90s jumble sale aesthetic was partly a conscious choice of rejection of the Thatcherite glitz that had gone before. But also *that* 70s clobber was what was in charity shops at the time, when thrifting was what you did because you had no money and you still wanted to dress stylishly, rather than a conscious aesthetic (which it became after these bands were successful and shops started selling new stuff based on a jumble sale aesthetic.)

That Suede/Pulp kind of clothing aesthetic was mirrored in what happened in the US with the whole "Grunge Chic" thing - that very very weird thing of, bands dressed that way (ripped jeans, flannel shirts) because they had no money, then suddenly "Grunge Chic" was on sale in Macy's. And "Thrifing" became something you did because you were hip, not because you were poor.

It's odd because it's kind of a disappearing option - the proliferation of ultra-cheap Primark type clothes means that if you only have £5 to spend on a shirt, the choice is something new at Primark rather than a second hand shop or jumble sale. But it's kind of disheartening to see the quality of clothes declining in charity shops, obviously partly because of the proliferation of "Vintage" merchants on eBay etc grab them first, but also because Primark/Peacock stuff falls to pieces after being worn twice, and doesn't really get passed on to charity shops. That, now, to look at a bunch of people prancing around in vintage clobber like that gets an "ugh, hipsters" reaction, while at the time that aesthetic choice had a very different meaning, about class/money and aspiration or rejection of aspirational lifestyles.

In that way, I find watching the aesthetic of Suede / Pulp videos really a bit like a window into a world that has vanished, when the reasons that it existed in the first place, and the reasons that it's vanishing, are really quite interesting.

jesus that suede video is so awful. the bass player looks like an architect. and the heroin chic vibe throught is just pathetic.

He can't be an architect, he doesn't have Interesting Glasses. Tho poor Suede, Justine's dad saddling them with architect jokes for life.

I'm gonna dig out Sci Fi Lullabies and play Suede b-side bingo

Maybe I'm just Streatham trash and maybe not...

my fave suede track is a b-side - 'together'.

sci fi lullabies is so good! i put it on last night.

Suede b-sides and New Years hangovers go together so well...

First heard these songs with an underage boy on a five grand stereo on the 99th floor of high-rise on the Upper West Side, now listening to them on an Asda boombox in a 2 room flat in Streatham. Life's funny like that.

hard to not vote for brett's "slooow dowwwwnnn"

brett's an amazing singer

thought this poll was gonna be Teenage Dream vs. A Very She & Him Christmas

that would be THE DROWNEES

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you ppl

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