is OK Computer a terrible album y/n

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I'm saying, essentially, graph the notes (in your head). The melody isn't very interesting, which is obscured by Yorke's singing it in a whiny, drawn-out, pretentious Anglo drawl.

xp - Right, but it isn't silly because melody is basically all it has going for it.

C.K. Dexter Holland, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

so what constitutes an "interesting" melody in your opinion? it's not like you can play this stuff on a piano with one finger, like it's Nickelback or something

...or fold laundry? (J0n Arbuckle), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

actually you can play "Karma Police" with one finger, not that that is actually an indication of whether something is a "good melody" or not

Right, but it isn't silly because melody is basically all it has going for it.

The idea that the melody is the only thing "Karma Police" has going for it is ridiculous. There are a bunch of things going on, between the piano/acoustic guitar interplay, the smooth bass groove, the background vocal interjections, and the distinct verse/chorus/coda sections, particularly the augmented orchestration in the coda.

It's obviously not going to be to everyone's taste because nothing is universally liked but come on; listen to what's actually there (and interestingly, you yourself admitted that you were grossly overstating your argument based on your relisten).

OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

No I didn't. I admitted that the temp was slightly better than I remembered, which may add a hint of rhythm, but changes nothing in re: the weakness of the melody. If I have overstated anything, which I'm not sure I have, it's been only mildly. The things you listed are there, yes, but none of them are "going on" imo. This is in part why they amped up the effects on Kid A.

C.K. Dexter Holland, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

tempO

C.K. Dexter Holland, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

damn Yorke putting on that pretentious Anglo drawl

Nemanja Vmić (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

he shd get back to his original Barry White voice

Nemanja Vmić (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

what would be a much better tempo? would 170 bpm be ideal?

what would be a stronger melody? one that avoided the middle half of a piano?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

OK Computer changed my life and all you fuckers saying it is bad should suck my dick! You guys are supposedly "I love music"?

billy goat, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

OK Computer changed my life and all you fuckers saying it is bad should suck my dick!

I decline. Many people, myself included, have strong personal attachments to bad music, especially that which they enjoyed in their youth/adolescence.

C.K. Dexter Holland, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

Fitter, happier, more productive
Getting on better with your fellow posters
Not reading too many Radiohead threads on ILX
Regular looking for the SB button (3 times a day)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

You can't just be like OH the tempo is wrong and the melody is wrong, you have to live inside the song and let it be part of you! It's a song not a textbook! Try listening to Exit Music on a discman under a bridge in the middle of January and then tell me it doesn' t have a melody and the tempo is wrong!

billy goat, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeah!

flexidisc, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

tell us how it changed your life

it didn't help with your posting

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

wait are you under a bridge b/c you're a goat, or because you're listening to Radiohead?

flexidisc, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

Try listening to Exit Music on a discman under a bridge in the middle of January

haha a bridge too far to be for real

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

come on guys this is a sock

Nemanja Vmić (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

It changed my life by giving me a whole philosophy about the beauty of life! I stopped doing stupid stuff and started working on myself. Could a "fucking terrible album" do that?

billy goat, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

... Yes?

OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

Hey I'm just telling you what worked for me!

billy goat, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

are you still eating cans and boots

flexidisc, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, you are asking this in a world where people are listening to Drake and Taylor Swift

OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

How can something be terrible if it makes you a better person?

billy goat, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

Ha ha man hanging out under the bridge was dumb OK! but Kurt used to do it and it was a good place to think and get away

billy goat, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

whoa, thread got ~deep~

tylerw_sandbox, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

only 100 people bought OK Computer at the time but every single one of them went out and lived under a bridge

Nemanja Vmić (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

so what constitutes an "interesting" melody in your opinion? it's not like you can play this stuff on a piano with one finger, like it's Nickelback or something

Isn't a melody by definition something that you can play on the piano with one finger?

o. nate, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

Not necessarily. in its strictest definition a melody is a series of sequential notes; the intervals between those notes may make playing the line with one finger challenging.

OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

what if it's a really long finger?

Nemanja Vmić (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

then you're screwed with faster rhythms

OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

So basically better melodies use legato?

o. nate, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

long finger, screwed. got it.

Nemanja Vmić (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

only 100 people bought OK Computer at the time but every single one of them went out and lived under a bridge

lol

C.K. Dexter Holland, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not really sure what constitutes a better or worse melody. I'm trying to figure out how you can say "if you know the most basic music theory, Radiohead have bad melodies" and instantly thought of the song "Photograph" by Nickelback

...or fold laundry? (J0n Arbuckle), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

"if you know the most basic music theory, Radiohead have bad melodies"

Again, this is not what I said.

C.K. Dexter Holland, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

makes me so happy frogbs and gabbneb have found each otherthat i'm dancing with tears in my eyes to lucky rite now

nuhnuhnuh, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

Again, this is not what I said.

then what exactly are you trying to say?

...or fold laundry? (J0n Arbuckle), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Do you even know what a hitler hairdo is?

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

FWIW my drone friends still like to listen to fridge buzz

that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:44 (twelve years ago) link

This has to be one of the stupidest threads in ILX history.

dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

I just can't believe Geir hasn't shown up yet.

dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

idk if geir is on the sandbox.

that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:52 (twelve years ago) link

"It would be interesting to see how the world would be different if Dick Cheney really listened to Radiohead's OK Computer. I think the world would probably improve. That album is fucking brilliant. It changed my life, so why wouldn't it change his?" - Chris Martin

that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

That guy should not give interviews.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

or make music

OH NOES, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

Or make anymore records IMO IIRC.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

Cross-post, but Oh Noes beat me to it.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

the easier the zing, the faster my fingers

OH NOES, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

the faster your treefingers

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

fitter happier
more reductive

OH NOES, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link


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