A Thread For Sensitive Boys With Guitars or Destroy/Destroy

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16001502

While you weren't looking, a bunch of sensitive young boys with acoustic guitars came and took over the music industry. Who are they and what do they want?

Ed Sheeran is not happy.

Three weeks ago, the Official Charts Company announced that the 20-year-old had scored the second biggest-selling debut album of the year, with Jessie J in first place.

"2011 hasn't ended yet!" he protests. "We're heading into the four biggest weeks for album sales of the year - and I'm only 80,000 off taking the number one."

Actually, the sales gap is slightly bigger - about 180,000 - but Sheeran is still snapping at Jessie J's 10-inch heels.

It's all the more impressive because Sheeran's album came out six months after his rival's - and, let's be honest, his media profile is much, much lower.

Instead, his fanbase comes from live shows. Hundreds and hundreds of them.

And he's not alone. There's a whole raft of sensitive boys with acoustic guitars, strumming their way into teenagers' hearts in a town hall near you.
Talkative audiences

Among them is Ben Howard, a self-taught, left-handed guitarist with a dreamadelic line of folk-pop.

His debut album Every Kingdom quietly crept into the top 10 last month, helped along by his extensive touring schedule.

"The first time I ever played in front of other people was an open mic night in town, when I was about 16," he recalls.

"It was two days before Christmas, when everyone comes home from work or university and goes to the pub.

"I just remember it being absolute carnage - absolutely packed - and me trying to play a little nylon guitar and love songs. It went down like a lead balloon."

Since then, however, audiences have been more respectful of his intricate, acoustic performances.

"Generally the people at the shows have been music lovers, so we've been fortunate and privileged," he says. "It's always tough when people are chatty. You have to try hard not to get offended by that."

Adding to his live reputation, Howard caused a stir this summer with the whimsical video to his single Keep Your Head Up - in which he builds a gigantic water slide out of plastic bags and bales of hay.

"The whole idea was to take the mickey out of ourselves because we'd really got pigeon-holed in the serious singer-songwriter category," he says.

The video went viral, but success came with a price. "I had bruises everywhere, like you wouldn't believe," Howard winces.

"I don't bruise easily but my arms were black. My bum and my back were just ruined.

"We had a tour afterwards, and we were a total mess for the whole thing."
Record deal

Like Ed Sheeran, who signed to Atlantic after a string of independently-released EPs, Howard recently inked a deal with Island.

But the singer maintains the record label is "just helping us reach out".

"As an artist these days, you've got to be very conscious of what direction you want to take," he says. "You've got to be the driving force."

"I'm working with good people who like my music. All that means is I can carry on doing what I want to do."

Howard's friend and contemporary Benjamin Francis Leftwich, however, is taking a different path.

With his manager, he has formed his own record label, and happily gives away MP3s, cover versions and EPs to his fans.

"I'd prefer it if we could give everything away for free," he says. "I don't think it makes any difference. I want people to hear my music."

His most popular tracks - Atlas Hands and Pictures - have an understated simplicity, with recurring references to nature and the ocean.

"There's something really nice about being by the sea," says the singer, wistfully.

"The artwork for the album is loosely based around the coast around my home in Yorkshire - Robin Hood's Bay and Whitby and things like that. I miss home a lot when I'm not there."

Leftwich increasingly finds himself on the road, dragging his battered guitar with him. But being based outside London's music industry gives him a different perspective on the current wave of acoustic troubadours.

"I don't feel part of any scene," he says. "This is just what I'm doing.

"I don't think it's healthy for the media to talk about a 'new wave' of male singer-songwriters because people like Ryan Adams have been doing it for years.

"Everyone's just doing their own thing."

Despite Leftwich's protestations, there is definitely something going on.

Having achieved success under the radar, these artists (and female counterparts like Laura Marling and Alela Diane) are providing a popular alternative to the tinnitus buzz of the top 10.

Their lyrics are unassuming, romantic and environmentally-aware, a mirror of their fans' own lives.

Even when Ed Sheeran incorporates hip-hop beats and discusses teenage pregnancy and homelessness, he does so with the sympathetic patter of a mate down the pub.

Of them all, he is the most successful (he drops a massive hint about a five-night residency in a London venue next year) but Sheeran denies having a gameplan.

"I think the fanbase was a mix between me doing tours with Example and Just Jack, and releasing EPs every three months so people always had new material to listen to," he explains.

"I think it's interacting with fans on Twitter and Facebook, having my own website, sending out my own T-shirts and literally going to the merchandise stand after every single gig and selling people CDs."

But Sheeran says the key to his popularity - and this goes for Howard and Leftwich, too - is image. Because, with tousled ginger hair and scruffy clothes, Ed Sheeran doesn't look like a 21st Century pop icon.

"I'm not a very glamorous person," he says. "I look like your brother's mate that turns up round your house and never changes his hoodie.

"I think people are into real musicians nowadays, rather than the glitz and glamour.

"They want to see their mates make it, not S Club 7."

Who buys this shit? Who else should we avoid?

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

This would be ~much~ better as a picture thread.

(Though to be honest, I'd much rather have a "Hott Dudes of IDM" picture thread.)

But Ed Sheeran pretty much won at life for that Rupert Grint video, that was easily one of the best videos I've seen this year.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

I suppose a few years ago female singer-songwriters were a big thing so hardly surprising the industry is promoting male versions.

Just imagine Jack Johnson being promoted as the godfather of this stuff

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

plus i knew you would be first to reply to any thread with 'sensitive boys' in the title ;)

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

SensitiveBoysWithMaracas.jpg

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/67057512/Thom+Yorke+ftb6.jpg

I just can't get enough.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

The only reason they're pushing them at the moment is for the same reason other labels are pushing "one dude with a laptop" - cheaper to fly them around the world and make their actual cash touring than a full band. Easier to promote, less £££ to split at the end of the tour.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

What, he failed the audition for Depeche Mode?

xpost TIMING DAMMIT!

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

xpost ahem, true yes.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

have you heard much of the music made by these guys? Are any of them any good? I gave up on Ryan Adams years ago yet i see he got a top 10 album. is it any cop?

xps

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

Listen to their music? Why would I do a thing like that?

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

haha thought as much!

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

It completely spoils it, if I listen to the music of a dude that is hott before deciding if he's hott or not. Because it's usually terrible! (Though I like Ed Sheeran on principle, just because he turns otherwise reasonable people into slathering anti-ginger outrage.)

But also, I have to listen to music without seeing what the creators look like, because that can also spoil it. Like, I had already decided that I liked Byetone, then I googled him and he looks like a Sprockets version of Charlie Sheen and I was just o_0 why god, why? SO disappointed.

#rmde

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

if i worried about how bands looked then i'd like none of the music i do

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

This is a big reason why you like such terrible music!

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.motorhead.ru/imagespress/artcalvertband.jpg

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

who do you most want to punch?

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

"Punch" is not what I think when I look at either of those men.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Unless ILX has moved from "smash" to "punch" in slang in the past 6 months.

Lemmy was so cuet back in the 70s. What happened? I know, drugs. But still.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Your next thread should be sensitive boys with guitars vs sensitive boys with synths : a kate pictorial.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

Dudes who abruptly grow bowl cuts and pose with Jazzmasters

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ksw8l4lDxq1qzjvpto1_400.jpg

before realising I'd actually rather smang RDJ and consequently sprouting a ginger ponytail and a set of decks?

https://p.twimg.com/AgA0iDhCEAIhWHT.jpg

It's all too much for my poor head.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

I sort of like Ed Shee, because he did a song about prostitutes and hard drugs and nobody the majority of his listeners don't seem to have noticed.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

I thought that was his "selling point" - look, he is so real he does songs about prostitutes and hard drugs, he's gritty and authentic and down home and in no way a posh boy in a hoodie. Or something. I dunno. I wasn't really paying attention.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, it seems all poetic/flowers to me. I wasn't really watching.

I sort of noticed him because he has a name very like a drummer I usedterno.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Monday, 12 December 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

yes, the 'realness' is a thing with him - my gf's daughter (13-y-o) seems to like sheeran for that reason. He's also got that other song where he explains how real he is. 'you need me I don't need you'. That's it. It's unusually atrocious.

woof, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

a modern day ocean colour scene/cast/real people then

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 12 December 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

So is this discussion done, then? Can I just turn this into a picture thread full of winsome sensitive boys?

http://data6.nightparty.ru/albums/npofficial/00000-000-5096272-696.jpg

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

You've disappointed me here, Kate. Ed Sheeran? Your taste is usually a lot better than that.

Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:45 (twelve years ago) link

He's ginger, I can't help myself, and don't call me Kate, Tom.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

I am powerless in the presence of ginger.

http://data6.nightparty.ru/albums/npofficial/00000-000-5096270-992.jpg

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

However, you know what is so NAGL? I'm trying to read that article that Chewy posted, and this dude keeps staring me in the face and distracting me:

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CICAgMDO7e_QjgEQrAIY-gEyCOEbo30oh7sn

That is just the RONGest thing I've seen in ages. I don't even know where to start. The scarf. The beard. The topknot. The inscrutably smug look on his face. Sometimes you can just look at someone and know instinctively that you will hate their music.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

i do not think I have more to say. i mean I am horrified that these etiolated heirs of jamie t are popular at the mo, but my rage has been tempered by talking to aforementioned daughter of gf - hard to spew old-man cynic bile when chatting with amiable early teen.

woof, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

In the long run, it often turns out that amiable 13 y.o. girls are right, and cynical old men are wrong when it comes to music.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

xpost but he is Offerman! He will offer you things!

Possibly money-off coupons, maybe not.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

xpost I have two 13 yr old girls, (although one is 11), and I not a c.o.m.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

Will he offer me rekening op? I need an auditor in here bigtime.

I don't know what it is about him, I just experience irrational hatred. So I suppose I understand the punching reflex WRT Sheerham.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:56 (twelve years ago) link

See? Mark speaks from experience. If you want to know if a music is of good quality, you would do far better to play it to two early teen girls than to play it to a cynical post-40 man.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

One other annoying thing about that pic, the angle he's standing at

Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, that's the big fail.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

Angela: I just like how he's always leaning. Against stuff. He leans great. Either sex or a conversation -- ideally both.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

I just like it best when Thom gives in to his inner ginger.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/5597764/Thom+Yorke+thothototm.jpg

I know that his early hennae and bleach abuse is probably responsible for his current bald patch (that or genes) but compare and contrast this smug punchability with Sheerhan above and it becomes evident.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/44030729/Thom+Yorke+thomsquint.jpg

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

At least he's facing it with less dignity and more raging against the dying of the light than Mark Gardener's follicular experiments. Sigh.

http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/k/z/kz8e99sa72lt27t9.jpg

Guess none of you are My So-Called Life fans, then?

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

i am with the 13-y-o on many things, but I am p comfortable in opposition on sheeran.

(rage/bile might be a bit strong - i def don't find sheeran punchable; he seems a decent enough sort. It's just the music bores me)

woof, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

One of these days I will actually listen to Sheerhan. I admit the only thing of his I've heard was that video with Rupert Grint in it, which I was too busy marvelling at how funny the video was to pay much attention to the music, which I suppose is evidence of exactly how unmemorable it was (something Dan was complaining about on another thread - even something objectively bad is at least memorable, but I struggle to recall even how the tune of Sheeran's song went.)

Still, I'm with the 13 y.o. because the tickle of irritation at punchability is a precursor to the itch of lust.

This is just obscene.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/13835011/Thom+Yorke+p.png

And I like it!

Right, enough procrasturbating, I have business plans to write. Me, writing business plans. This is why private healthcare in this country will fail. Because I don't even understand why I get given these jobs. But at least there's a new Sonic Cathedral mix-cast thing today. Tra la la.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

EW.

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Wednesday, 14 December 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

I've spent the past 24 hours pretty much on a solid cheesecake binge and you harsh-buzz me with that? Without even The Traitor Andy Bell to make up for it?

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Wednesday, 14 December 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

andy bell is in liam's band i think, not noel's.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 15 December 2011 09:38 (twelve years ago) link

Is Liam's band any better than Noel's? Or is that like asking if cat shit smells better than dog shit? ;-)

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I think Liam's band is better than Noel's.

I was in a shop and "If I had a gun" Noel came on. He has this habit of having half a decent idea for a song, but never getting round to replacing his placeholder lines or even finishing writing it.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:03 (twelve years ago) link

Ha ha, maybe I'll look them up on YouTube because there's no way I'm getting either of them on my Spotify/last.fm stats heh.

Yes, I have standards. I don't care how much Cher Lloyd gets on my last.fm stats but I draw the line at Gallaghers.

(My colleague is trying to annoy the shit out of me by singing glam rock christmas singles at me, but at least he's moved on from Wizzard to Slade. God I wish I'd had more than 5 hours of sleep last night, I am completely slap happy and laughing my head off at everything.)

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:05 (twelve years ago) link

Is five hours a "good" amount?

My normal amount is six thesedays...

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

the noel song i heard was a lot better than liam's. but im not sure id give it any higher praise than "it was ok and i didnt turn the radio off"

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:20 (twelve years ago) link

OMG no, I need at least 8 hours or I go seriously crazy. Me not getting enough sleep for several nights in a row is like manic episode on a stick.

But it's OK, we're bouncing around the office to Ballroom Blitz now and he's threatening to torrent the Velvet Goldmine soundtrack. (This may be my fault bcuz he was laughing at me making crush with eyeliner my new wallpaper.)

Need more bubbleglam in my life. Are you ready Steve? uh-huh. Andy? YEAH.

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

TS: Ballroom Blitz vs Blitzkrieg Bop

(let's ask Amber and Alice)

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

they will choose 1 each

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

Now that's a tough one!

Obviously they have emotional attachment to BzBop (Amber rewrote it for herself as "5th Street Pop" in honour of their NY visit)

But I know they'd love Ballroom Blitz.

xpost dunno about that.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

you must let them decide during the school run tomorrow by playing both

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

ah, school run is a thing of the past, they both Secondary School now.

Which involves walking up and meeting friends on the way.

I know, where does the time go, etc.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:56 (twelve years ago) link

the end of the grout school run saddens me. It was truly one of the earths great wonders.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

oh and just for fotherington thomas Doom Folk S/D (mumford and sons to make a 'doom folk album')

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:06 (twelve years ago) link

Bleurgh. Do not want.

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

you were complaining sandbox was down yesterday so you couldnt post about it!

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

I wanted to see you get really sputtery about how awful it was, I didn't want the actual album made!

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link

well that thread is for posting good doom folk

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

I just wanted to say that this

I have two 13 yr old girls, (although one is 11)

Is beautiful

oPal, Thursday, 15 December 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

Is the truth! (thx)

Y.O. Mini (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Thursday, 15 December 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

Was it in Select or Melody Maker, back in the 90s, where they ran an article which asked a bunch of schoolchildren their opinions of the Records Of Today with predictable results (they hate Suede! and Oasis! they love the Smiths! and Blur!)...

...until the inevitable punchline that the schoolchildren were actually Stephen Street's kids and a couple of their classmates.

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, Tom. You had to piss on our chips.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/dec/15/drake-bon-iver-james-blake

Polemicist Who Slashed All, Freely (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

tom likes that stuff?

Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 19 December 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link


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