biggest rap songs on urban radio 2011

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i just checked, it's on uk itunes. who is this "lazy jay" who suddenly gets a featuring credit

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

it's the guy that she took the beat from

v-shasty, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

that's why the video kept getting pulled down

v-shasty, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno i dont want to rag on a-banks more than i already have bcuz i think my initial ire was a bit ott -- i think all the comparisons to rappers-i-like was real off putting when i heard it & everyone's saying BEST SHIT OF THE YEAR -- its closer to lily allen than trina imo

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

ummm she's not really close to either

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

Reema Major's single was better anyway

Number None, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I see mostly shtick in Nicki Minaj, though I’m thrilled to see a woman break apart the boys club and sexualize men in her hit video.

didn't Salt & Pepa spend half of the 90s doing this

OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but every time a female comes along and raps about sex and men being sexy, every time people act like no one's ever done it before (which is where we return to azealia banks)

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, I get why Missy wouldn't be a good avenue for comparison because IIRC the vast majority of her videos have ppl in borderline skiwear up until "Lose Control" so it's not like the videos themselves were objectifying dudes but didn't S&P paw shirtless guys in practically every single one of their post-"Push It" videos?

OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

ummm she's not really close to either

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, December 16, 2011 11:23 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

idk precocious cutesy theater kid is kind of her steez
i was actually going to say that one chick critics were into 5 yrs ago who did theatrical 'hip-hop'-esque showtunes but i couldn't remember her name for the life of me

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

nellie mckay?

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

thats the one

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

allen and mckay aren't really "rappers" as such, they just experiment with it. banks can actually rap really well.

also, press and image aside, i don't think banks' theatre-kid thing actually comes across on record at all

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

i dont know why that sess 45 / keedy black song we both like doesn't have similar levels of label interest, if its just down to rapping skill; but it isn't, of course, its her theatrical irony & general indie-ness that gives her coverage

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

also, press and image aside, i don't think banks' theatre-kid thing actually comes across on record at all

Really? My reaction to "212" was the overwhelming impression that someone had played a Betty Boo single for her and said "okay sound like this, only more arch".

OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

archness is a better word for what i'm thinking than 'theatrical irony & general indieness' thnx

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

i dont know why that sess 45 / keedy black song we both like doesn't have similar levels of label interest, if its just down to rapping skill; but it isn't, of course, its her theatrical irony & general indie-ness that gives her coverage

or reema major, or brianna who does that "marilyn monroe" song, or yeah many others. so many others.

this happens all the time though! "why are you paying attention to this and not that" is like, something i whine every month. odd future, the weeknd, frank ocean, asap rocky, yadda yadda yadda. at least this time there's a legit great pop song, in terms of hooks and earworminess, that feels somewhat ~alive~ and not just like someone's mumbled something intp their laptop at 3am

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

i really don't hear archness in it though...and usually that's a real turn-off for me

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

I don't see how you can listen to the switch from flat-affect robot to overly conversational verging on surfer girl verses to the sung part to the shouty part without imagining her stopping each take in the studio to change her hat and sunglasses to better get "into character" for each voice.

OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think it's a bad song but it absolutely is dripping with artifice for me, in much the same way as a good chunk of Nicki's material.

OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

i should say, i don't even think its 'bad' just very slight, which feels almost more opposed to the arguments made in its favor than if i actively disliked it like that

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

like there's a sense of a small group of ppl willing it into importance

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

"the thinking man's Alexandra Stan"

OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

ha i was thinking about all the vocal switch-ups the other day - they absolutely make the song for me, but it's so recognisably her every time that the idea of them being minajian characters never crossed my mind. they seem to flow into each other quite naturally.

i did think "212" was slight when i first heard it, then it earwormed me - admittedly it only grabbed me totally after i googled the lyrics, which i couldn't really make out before. once you can rap along to it it's completely different.

like there's a sense of a small group of ppl willing it into importance

which makes azealia banks different in what way to any other rap/r&b act that critics stan for?

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

like would it legitimise her if "212" ended up being a hit? it's not like odd future have had hits either

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think it's slight in terms of popularity, I think it's slight because it really reminds me of "Mr Saxobeat". Its hit potential isn't even on my radar; if anything, I think it has a shot because of the combo of filthy lyrics + frothy beat + cuet rapper/singer, but then again I also thought ppl were going to go for Janelle Monae as a pop star rather than "a respected musician" so I am not a good barometer for these things.

OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not trying to 'delegitimize' her though. i'm just trying to describe her stuff in a way that i feel is accurate. i dont think there's much hit potential in this song, i have no idea what to think abt her long-term prospects. i do feel like she'd do better in britain than here.

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

minaj is all schtick at this point but it kind of seems useless to knock her for that -- when she leaves aside the schtick you just get horribly bland platitudes like "right thru me" or the verses on "moment 4 life"

some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 16 December 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think "212" will be a hit but the buzz around it is reminiscent of the buzz around "Galang" (only it's been faster b/c these things travel faster now).

Tim F, Friday, 16 December 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

and like MIA, we end up discussing her in ilx threads about radio rap for some mysterious reason

some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

"212" is interesting but breakout pop single? gtfo. hook isn't strong enough.

aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

it wouldn't go straight to radio playlists if they just tightened up the chorus, though

some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

the song's fun is all in the bleeped out parts

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

this is just gonna be a song that hipsters play a lot at hipster house parties

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

how dare they

aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

what kind of craft brew do they drink while listening to it

aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

good results

є(٥_ ٥)э, Friday, 16 December 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

HAM got rob'd

gayfish, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

isnt that song widely considered a flop

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, i don't like it either, but i thought the general consensus was 'WOW' followed by 'eh'

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

i just assumed that post was sarcastic

furnace mane, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

wow I would like "Ima Boss" a lot more if it wasn't for the videogame strings/horns

OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

dunno why you would think a post made by poster 'gayfish' was sarcastic tbh

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

http://theremixbaby.tumblr.com/post/14643521667/unpopular-opinions-super-bass

kinda sums up my feelings about 'super bass' (except I wouldn't rank it that low on PF)

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 23 December 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

wow I would like "Ima Boss" a lot more if it wasn't for the videogame strings/horns

haha I love shitty fake synth brass sounds in rap songs

that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Friday, 23 December 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

I mean why shouldn't I feel like I'm playing Lufia when I listen to Meek Mill

that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Friday, 23 December 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link

sawce all over me

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 23 December 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link

haha I love shitty fake synth brass sounds in rap songs

― that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:46 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

seriously!

fireman princess (furnace mane), Friday, 23 December 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link

fake brass is awesome

sisilafami, Friday, 23 December 2011 03:35 (twelve years ago) link

"ima boss" is my favorite song on here, but if anything it would be better if the beat was varied for like even a few bars. it's hard as hell but it's soo repetitive.

smh mang fusion, Friday, 23 December 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link


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