drake is BETTER than wayne's drake impression sure but i just don't feel like it's by a huge margin
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
listening to 'she will' for the first time, drake's voice actually sounds hard on this
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
that's drake on the chorus right?
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
drake is totally above cliche, true
on this note, i never followed up on my own qn in the rap threads but i thought one of the biggest failures in sfj's review of the drake album was him giving drake a free pass for being too self-absorbed to provide worthy perspective to his moanings about life's emptiness, or awareness that he seems to embody all he claims to loathe - i guess the latter precludes the former
― k3vin k., Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
this is what i was going to post in response to j0rdan a few minutes ago and then decided not to, but since you're on the subject:
they both do lame superficial 'introspection' but the difference is wayne seems to have a dark inner life he'll never write honestly or interestingly about while drake is fearlessly plumbing the depths of the most mundane polite life a rap star could ever have hoping to will it into a fascinating tragic narrative
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
like on "headlines" drake is practically masturbating to fantasies of someone in his entourage shooting a hater so he can sit in a courtroom for their trial feeling all cool and dangerous and dramatically conflicted
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
some dude otm
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, December 9, 2011 9:12 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
i mean yes, you're right, but if you can stump for the following in any capacity i think you need to figure some things out
[Verse 1]I tell her now gon' pop that pussy for a real niggaI already know that life is deep, but I still dig herNiggas is jealous, but really I could care lessI'm in Hell's Kitchen with an apron and a hairnetDevil on my shoulder, the Lord as my witnessSo on my Libra scale, I'm weighing sins and forgivenessWhat goes around comes around like a hula hoopKarma is a bitch? Well just make sure that bitch is beautifulLife on the edge, I'm dangling my feetI tried to pay attention but attention paid meHaters can't see me: nose-bleed seatsAnd today I went shopping and talk is still cheap
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
i mean that's seriously some of the worst writing i can even imagine
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
we're falling into an iatee rabbit hole of "how are those not-good lyrics any less good than any not-good rap lyrics?" now
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
you're right -- that said, i stand by my assertion that those wayne verses are some of the absolute worst of the year, bar none
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
there is worse rapping on better songs on these lists (like nicki on "moment 4 life," which is also one of the only times drake has ever sounded like a halfway believable rapper type person)
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's still maybe his outright best rap verse
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
i remember back when "hustle hard" and "john" were out that i thought weezy might not put out a pile of horsecrap this year
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
voting "bring it back"
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
"She Will."
― Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 10 December 2011 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
i like "oh my"
― wil smif, Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
'look at me now' is def my favorite beat IF ONLY CHRIS BROWN WASN'T ON IT >:|
^^^ this
also I fuckin hate "She Will."
― Adrien Brony (step hen faps), Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
my dog could have made that beat
― k3vin k., Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
when diplo hears your dog's beats he'll def offer him a milkbone in exchange for a co-production credit
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
"look at me now" is fine, but it's not like busta's and wayne's verses are classics or anything anyway
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
yeah seriously
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lofuvgzfgR1qzqrouo1_500.jpg
― Number None, Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
what are wayne's good verses this year?
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
anything of his prior to 2009 that you decided to revisit
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
busta doing a mediocre busta verse is still better than most of the traxx on this list
― Adrien Brony (step hen faps), Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that's not true
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
clearly I was speaking of an objective "truth" than can be disputed
― Adrien Brony (step hen faps), Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
busta verses in 2011 are just sad to me
― wil smif, Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK-9h4SzFqM
I'm a G-A-N-G-STIRRRtake it to the streets, say when he's scurrrredT- streets slimmin see ya makin Z scurrrfeet feet gone lace the weed with the syrrpWeezy, Don of the squad, N**** bow downexcuse yourself from the table, we 'bout to chow downWe bust up in this bitch with our smiles downoh how wow glock glock fo fo pow powwe've got a lion in the engine with a loud growllittle kids and pets run from the ROW ROWsay ROW we 'bout to bring it back to our townman, shit bout to go down, down, super got that brown nowand little snacky's got the pounds nowloaded, we've got money from the flo' to the ceilinhomey talkin slick, we've got money on the flowwe bout to kill em with money i'mma throw it i'm bout to win itweezy outfee i got us papi, u could sit back and put ya feet upi'ma make sure we all eat my nigga feed upand u could catch me g'd upat the stage at the club tosssin g's upor at the table wrappin' keys upthey tell me i could make it rappin put them keys upbut i'm like 25 keys upthe streets is tuff,man i gotta get these peeps they stuff, it's a hot summeru could still catch me and stunna in a 4 door lexusit's only weezy baby no more extrasand u know he bout to buy me a 4 door testajust cuz he's impressed wit my solo efforti show no care for, those who left usfuck those fellas i'm so rebelliousi show no remorsewhen u see me hold ya thought's or we gon' hold courtand i know u don't wanna hold courti bust up in this bitch wit a k and bang out the whole court
― wil smif, Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
nah but for real his verse on the "hustle hard" remix is awesome
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
and you haven't even heard his verse on the cher lloyd album about being forever young
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
this is a recent busta rhymes verse that i really enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxDcmWazLFE
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
voted for racks
― malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
is "chopper in the car" called something different than "chopper in the car"??
― bene_gesserit, Saturday, 10 December 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
ok i guess it's "john" and it's my pick.
and "marvin's room" is the song about drunk-dialing your ex - people like this song as more than a novelty for real?
(i spend 95% of my time in the car listening to urban rap radio so i am familiar with these songs in some capacity but they never say the titles /also didn't realize drake was on 75% of them.)
― bene_gesserit, Saturday, 10 December 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
"Marvin's Room" love is the weirdest of all to me, because even if you don't like Drake as a person, even if you don't like Drake as a rapper, at least he's made some pop songs qua pop songs & "Marvin's Room" is a meandering, directionless sexless slow jam
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it is kind of a hilarious song because it's all serious and dark but it's about drunk dialing someone and telling them you are sleeping with a bunch of other women!
― bene_gesserit, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
I'VE HAD SEX FOUR TIMES THIS WEEK I'LL EXPLAINHAVING A HARD TIME ADJUST TO FAME
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 11 December 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
dang racks is p great
― dayo, Sunday, 11 December 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link
marvins room is my fav drake song
― wil smif, Sunday, 11 December 2011 07:08 (twelve years ago) link
in spite of the awkward lines his performance is def moving--not in that it inspires sympathy or pity but, like, i can relate to being in that pathetic position and it really hits that nerve. captures the vibe of being bummed out & reaching out perfectly; the beat sounds like the bathroom of a club, the way the keys seep through and the volume increases in hesitant bursts. the phone call is pretty devastating
― wil smif, Sunday, 11 December 2011 07:39 (twelve years ago) link
― bene_gesserit, Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink
i mean presumably he's calling someone he's, like, in love with; kind of serious imo
― wil smif, Sunday, 11 December 2011 07:45 (twelve years ago) link
some dude feel like it's my duty to inform you that your dn is biting the rev
― am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, 12 December 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
ok my bad but i should do you a favor and post under the dn to which you're referring in this actual thread before i change it so people aren't totally confused
― skrillex pretend (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 12 December 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
"sounds like the bathroom of a club" is the new "watching a party ending through smoke"
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
haha well I just posted in the thread most likely to get your attention xp
― am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, 12 December 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
ha, thank you some dude, i was confused myself.
― malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Monday, 12 December 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 15 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
like there's a sense of a small group of ppl willing it into importance
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
"the thinking man's Alexandra Stan"
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
ha i was thinking about all the vocal switch-ups the other day - they absolutely make the song for me, but it's so recognisably her every time that the idea of them being minajian characters never crossed my mind. they seem to flow into each other quite naturally.
i did think "212" was slight when i first heard it, then it earwormed me - admittedly it only grabbed me totally after i googled the lyrics, which i couldn't really make out before. once you can rap along to it it's completely different.
which makes azealia banks different in what way to any other rap/r&b act that critics stan for?
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
like would it legitimise her if "212" ended up being a hit? it's not like odd future have had hits either
I don't think it's slight in terms of popularity, I think it's slight because it really reminds me of "Mr Saxobeat". Its hit potential isn't even on my radar; if anything, I think it has a shot because of the combo of filthy lyrics + frothy beat + cuet rapper/singer, but then again I also thought ppl were going to go for Janelle Monae as a pop star rather than "a respected musician" so I am not a good barometer for these things.
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not trying to 'delegitimize' her though. i'm just trying to describe her stuff in a way that i feel is accurate. i dont think there's much hit potential in this song, i have no idea what to think abt her long-term prospects. i do feel like she'd do better in britain than here.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
minaj is all schtick at this point but it kind of seems useless to knock her for that -- when she leaves aside the schtick you just get horribly bland platitudes like "right thru me" or the verses on "moment 4 life"
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 16 December 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think "212" will be a hit but the buzz around it is reminiscent of the buzz around "Galang" (only it's been faster b/c these things travel faster now).
― Tim F, Friday, 16 December 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
and like MIA, we end up discussing her in ilx threads about radio rap for some mysterious reason
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
"212" is interesting but breakout pop single? gtfo. hook isn't strong enough.
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
it wouldn't go straight to radio playlists if they just tightened up the chorus, though
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
the song's fun is all in the bleeped out parts
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
this is just gonna be a song that hipsters play a lot at hipster house parties
how dare they
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
what kind of craft brew do they drink while listening to it
good results
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Friday, 16 December 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
HAM got rob'd
― gayfish, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
isnt that song widely considered a flop
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, i don't like it either, but i thought the general consensus was 'WOW' followed by 'eh'
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
i just assumed that post was sarcastic
― furnace mane, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
wow I would like "Ima Boss" a lot more if it wasn't for the videogame strings/horns
― OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
dunno why you would think a post made by poster 'gayfish' was sarcastic tbh
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://theremixbaby.tumblr.com/post/14643521667/unpopular-opinions-super-bass
kinda sums up my feelings about 'super bass' (except I wouldn't rank it that low on PF)
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 23 December 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
haha I love shitty fake synth brass sounds in rap songs
― that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Friday, 23 December 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
I mean why shouldn't I feel like I'm playing Lufia when I listen to Meek Mill
― that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Friday, 23 December 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
sawce all over me
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 23 December 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
― that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps), Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:46 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
seriously!
― fireman princess (furnace mane), Friday, 23 December 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
fake brass is awesome
― sisilafami, Friday, 23 December 2011 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
"ima boss" is my favorite song on here, but if anything it would be better if the beat was varied for like even a few bars. it's hard as hell but it's soo repetitive.
― smh mang fusion, Friday, 23 December 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
i have zero issues w/ that album
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 23 December 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
er, song