You're Getting Old: The BBC Sound of 2012 Longlist

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/soundof/2012/

It doesn't matter if they've been talked about elsewhere. They're now officially in with a shout of being The New The Bravery. Things have changed.

Who is the best?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
SKRILLEX - caught the attention of Deadmau5 6
AZEALIA BANKS - accelerated rhymes and potty mouth 5
NIKI & THE DOVE - had a brief flight of fancy in 2007 4
A$AP ROCKY - Rakim had joined the A$AP (Always Strive and Prosper) crew 1
REN HARVIEU - a childhood peppered with talent show disasters 1
STOOSHE - bio describes them as 'Salt N' Pepa meet Odd Future' 1
FRANK OCEAN - legally changed his name from Christopher ""Lonny"" Breaux 1
DRY THE RIVER - "folky gospel music played by a post-punk band" 1
FRIENDS - self-described "weird pop" and mid set instrument swapping 0
LIANNE LA HAVAS - Trips to New York to work with Aqualung's Matt Hales 0
MICHAEL KIWANUKA - influenced by a free covermount CD on a magazine 0
FLUX PAVILION - from relevant unknown to dubstep's brightest hope 0
DOT ROTTEN - 'Dirty on Tracks, Righteous Opinions Told To Educate Nubians' 0
SPECTOR - late of a few indie bands, also a sometime MTV presenter 0
JAMIE N COMMONS - It's also hard to believe he's not an American 0


William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 5 December 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

one of my favorite annual threads!

i actually know four of these artists!

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

not read the list yet but these are all shi

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

cursory glance tells me Spector are the guys whose kneecaps i'd most like to smash with a 7 iron in 2012

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

Fans of Phil McNulty should find much to enjoy in the Flux Pavilion entry, especially the bit where it explains his name.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

She's just 21 years old but Lancashire born Ren Harvieu's musical inspirations seem to come from three decades before her birth

ooh what a refreshing change

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

voted skrillex for the yuks

furnace mane, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

but Skrillex doesn't need this!

Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

YES HE DOES HE CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF DEADMAU5. HAVE YOU CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF DEADMAU5? DIDN'T THINK SO.

furnace mane, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

It's hard to tell where he's directing his attention in fairness. I'm not sure he can even move his head much

Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

Aqualung's Matt Hales

є(٥_ ٥)э, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

I've been stanning for Niki & The Dove for ages now, so obvs I'm voting for them.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

MICHAEL KIWANUKA - influenced by a free covermount CD on a magazine

lol, it's funny cos it's true

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

JF won me over for N&tD on the arty synth thread.

Flux Pavilion was filth/bro-step years before Skrillex. Neither holds a candle to Trolley Snatcha.

Sanpaku, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:49 (twelve years ago) link

This is so obv Azealia Banks, right?

Simon H., Monday, 5 December 2011 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

I'd rather listen to skrillex in all honesty

dadmau5 (Mr. Stevenson #2) (furnace mane), Monday, 5 December 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

i think it could potentially be azealia banks -- i mean she has one GREAT song -- asap rocky had the same thing at one point and his mixtape ended up being pretty mixed

it's obv frank ocean

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 03:33 (twelve years ago) link

fuck that dude and his shitty singing imo

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 03:35 (twelve years ago) link

lol it's like we're back to arguing about the first dream album

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 03:42 (twelve years ago) link

ftr frank o. probably isn't even in my top 20 of the year (tho "novacane" is a top 10 single) but i'm sure he's the best on this list

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 03:42 (twelve years ago) link

the-dream has a weird voice but at least he ain't just talking over beats in a vaguely melodic fashion

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

azaelia deserves every vote but yeah, with JF, been on Niki/Dove for a year now and i'm still looking forward to their full-length more than anything.

zachylon, Monday, 5 December 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

yall are really playing yourselves with this azaelia banks bullshit

dadmau5 (Mr. Stevenson #2) (furnace mane), Monday, 5 December 2011 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

oh, the ONE SONG is pretty dope, c'mon

but yes acting like she's some new superstar is a bit much

i repeat, SHE HAS ONE SONG

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link

well she has an interpol cover. and that one other song from a few years ago. but she basically has one song.

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link

voted skrillex for real

dr. strongo, Monday, 5 December 2011 05:02 (twelve years ago) link

i'm just going to assume every act i haven't heard sounds like a subway busker doing coldplay songs.

dr. strongo, Monday, 5 December 2011 05:04 (twelve years ago) link

She has one song, yes. One really, really good song. (F. Ocean doesn't instest me and I've not heard Niki and the Dove.)

Simon H., Monday, 5 December 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link

*interest

Simon H., Monday, 5 December 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link

she has one song that kinda sucks

dadmau5 (Mr. Stevenson #2) (furnace mane), Monday, 5 December 2011 05:39 (twelve years ago) link

her ONE SONG is way better than anything i've heard from asap rocky or the brostep genre and i'm not big on frank ocean.

this is the bbc list, not an actual competition

zachylon, Monday, 5 December 2011 05:39 (twelve years ago) link

like, pretty sure half these artists do not exist or are dead

zachylon, Monday, 5 December 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

me and the rev, the last sane men in an insane world

dr. strongo, Monday, 5 December 2011 05:48 (twelve years ago) link

yall are really playing yourselves with this azaelia banks bullshit

― dadmau5 (Mr. Stevenson #2) (furnace mane), Monday, 5 December 2011 04:56 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

OTMFM

The one song she has sucks donkey dick.

Voted Asap because the mixtape was p dece.]

More important to here like NV or Matt or someone else take apart the ones I don't know.

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 07:40 (twelve years ago) link

i have like 5 or 6 azealia banks songs in my itunes and i haven't even been particularly keeping up, she's been putting stuff out for a while

she's far from the most exciting new act, or even new rapper, or even new female rapper, around right now but "212" is super-good and deserves all the accolades it gets (that said it's like...top 50 single of the year for me, not top 10)

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:02 (twelve years ago) link

xp

don't have the energy, kinda pleasantly surprised that there's only 2 or 3 genuine shitty indie bands on the list but the rest seems to be various Blog Hop/Blogstep/Blog'n'B hype shit that will go precisely nowhere? and god if you don't like that Azaelia Banks novelty christmas hit then whatever you do try to avoid hearing Stooshe, who are essentially Vanilla with some controverzial swears

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:03 (twelve years ago) link

i think a prob for me with "212" is the video is quite obnoxious and i'd probly be cooler if i'd not heard it

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:05 (twelve years ago) link

Jamie N Commons looks like Frankie Cocozzazzazza's smug older brother who owns a Dylan album jesus

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:07 (twelve years ago) link

asap rocky getting uk hype surprises me. the mixtape is aight in a late night stoned vibe kind of way but he can't really rap, i'm kind of tired of music getting lauded just cuz it makes people vibe out a bit when they're on their laptops in their bedrooms alone at 2am.

that goes for frank ocean as well! i agree with shipz about his voice, it's just...not good. "i miss you" indicates he could be a great songwriter though. i don't hate nostalgia/ultra but i am pretty much never drawn to listen to it.

ughhhhh friends. they're the ones who did that dreadful "my boo" cover. forever damned in my eyes for that. what kind of disgusting savage hears "my boo" and thinks "you know, what this song needs is my shitty p4kalteredzones take on it". DIE DIE DIE. i had to talk about them in a guardian podcast a few months ago and i was so shocked that my co-panellists were unfamiliar with the original "my boo". so many people need to LOOK AT THEIR LIVES AND LOOK AT THEIR CHOICES right now.

lol stooshe, i thought they were a joke that went too far when they first emerged. i guess they really are now. fuck stooshe i want stush :(

dot rotten is good! though i have kind of stopped following grime now, apart from lady leshurr. no doubt his crossover attempts will suck balls. although i do like him on the cher lloyd track...

niki & the dove is just popjustice type shit isn't it?

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:07 (twelve years ago) link

also the press focusing on how filthy!!1111 azealia banks is is so weird. it's like they're trying to pretend trina never existed. writing my favourite rapper out of history ;_;

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:09 (twelve years ago) link

really the most lulz / o_O to be had here is when you consider the list of people that the Beeb considers "tastemakers", i think i'm just gonna evacuate the culture and listen to Baroque music all year

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:10 (twelve years ago) link

or just listen to nothing but random DatPiff mixtapes for 12 months, that wd probly be more fun

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:11 (twelve years ago) link

the mixtape is aight in a late night stoned vibe kind of way but he can't really rap, i'm kind of tired of music getting lauded just cuz it makes people vibe out a bit when they're on their laptops in their bedrooms alone at 2am.

otm

Simon H., Monday, 5 December 2011 08:17 (twelve years ago) link

voted skrillex for real

― dr. strongo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:39 (twelve years ago) link

the azealia banks thing is so bizarre to me i dont get it at all.

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:39 (twelve years ago) link

STOOSHE - bio describes them as 'Salt N' Pepa meet Odd Future'

how the

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:40 (twelve years ago) link

og my boo is shit too lex sorry to inform you

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

*stone cold look of emnity*

dadmau5 (Mr. Stevenson #2) (furnace mane), Monday, 5 December 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link

asap rocky getting uk hype surprises me. the mixtape is aight in a late night stoned vibe kind of way but he can't really rap, i'm kind of tired of music getting lauded just cuz it makes people vibe out a bit when they're on their laptops in their bedrooms alone at 2am.

lol that 'token rapper on bbc list' is getting uk hype. it worked wonders for sway now didnt it

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

og my boo is shit too lex sorry to inform you

― big popppa hoy, Monday, December 5, 2011 2:52 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

thats cray sorry dude

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

also the press focusing on how filthy!!1111 azealia banks is is so weird. it's like they're trying to pretend trina never existed. writing my favourite rapper out of history ;_;

― lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:09 (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

imma go out on a limb and say they arent pretending and just dont know trina existed

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

imma go out on a limb & say its because she's talking all polite & theatrically that they're not comparing her w/ trina or any of the many other lewd female rappers

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link

lmao its early in the morning and i thought he referred to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPgf2meEX1w&ob=av3e

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link

it was like two seconds after i posted that i was like, oooooops.

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link

oh ha. that one does suck.

furnace mane, Monday, 5 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link

i was gonna say, are you sure that you're talking about the ghost town djs one

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link

holy hell, they should be shot in the head and tossed into the ocean like bin laden for this cover

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link

MICHAEL KIWANUKA - influenced by a free covermount CD on a magazine

I listened to the Huey out of Fun Lovin' Criminals show on 6music yesterday for iirc the first time in my life and nearly every song he played was good! - except this dude was playing live and was just awful Jools Holland wallpaper paste

Dot Rotten - this has got to be like the fifth year on the bounce there's been some grime MC who I just know as a name on indistinguishable mix CDRs in the dance record store, and then it's like "oh right he's decided to make bouncy pop records"

am I right in thinking Skrillex is already playing like 2,000 capacity venues or something in the UK alone, to say nothing of the States? feel like it's kind of cheating having him on here

Extreme Lifestyle, Monday, 5 December 2011 09:54 (twelve years ago) link

MICHAEL KIWANUKA - influenced by a free covermount CD on a magazine

if i ever get famous imma say this. and that free covermount CD will be a bunch of Prince Po outtakes and remixes off a copy of HHC about 8 years ago.

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

from the name, i wrongly assumed Niki and the Dove was going to be some Florence and the Machine bull, but I'm listening to their EP now and it's actually pretty decent - like a poppier gang gang dance? I don't hate it.

Roz, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

niki and the dove sounds like a prince reference... i was expecting them to be more like esben and the witch from the name.

that azaelia banks song is fun. the music is awesome, her cadence is pretty fab and it kind of moves around like lying on a trampoline in zero gravity. but there's something a bit suspicious about it - like there's some icky hipster agenda going on or something? I dunno...

Flux Pavilion - He released an actually quite fun brostep EP called Lines In Wax towards the end of last year. It wasn't dreadful, but i'm surprised he's in this list given he's been around a while and has made a fairly big name for himself already.

I'm a twat for not having check out the Frank Ocean album yet. Seemed Odd Future were set to take over the world and then Tyler kind of messed that up a bit with Goblin and all the shite he talked up at the time. I still hope they can do something cool together in future.

Someone I know who likes quite a lot of indie-folk was telling me about Spector and Friends. The Friends track he played sounded a bit like Dirty Projectors, but maybe a bit more palatable, I dunno. Not necessarily my thing.

Skrillex - a necessary evil, i suppose.

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Dry The River are a quintet from London, fronted by medical student Peter Liddle..."

Fuck off then

"Like Mumford & Sons, this London band offer a glimpse of the pastoral with their infectious semi-acoustic ditties..."

And, while you're at it, die

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Monday, 5 December 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

cursory glance tells me Spector are the guys whose kneecaps i'd most like to smash with a 7 iron in 2012

Jamie N. Commons in a heartbeat. Even his name is annoying. That N. No need for it.

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Monday, 5 December 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

I assume someone thinks Flux Pavilion is gonna blow up next year like Skrillex did this year, ie distinct from 'big among people who listen to ridiculous chainsaw music'

Extreme Lifestyle, Monday, 5 December 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

whether that's realistic is another matter

Extreme Lifestyle, Monday, 5 December 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

"Bon Iver", used in a positive context, is a malapropism. You'd think the BBC of all people should know that.

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

the mixtape is aight in a late night stoned vibe kind of way but he can't really rap, i'm kind of tired of music getting lauded just cuz it makes people vibe out a bit when they're on their laptops in their bedrooms alone at 2am.

otm

― Simon H., Monday, December 5, 2011 3:17 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

yeah this is truth bomb of the year shit right here

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

i feel like the morbz of ilm always looking at threads thinking "yeah of course you'd like that you fucking STONERS"

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

it's all so INERT

idk it's not as if i don't have a place for that aesthetic in my life, as someone who is often on my laptop at 2am, but it just makes me think, GET OFF THE INTERNET GO FOR A GODDAMN WALK.

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

lol, al

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Friends is a decent little band, but I could totally understand forever being turned off of them for the "My Boo" cover. Dreadful shit.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Rakim had joined the A$AP (Always Strive and Prosper) crew

!???!?!?

upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

lol do you remember him deciding that maino was the only rapper worth caring about? this is better.

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

haha i do remember the maino thing, maino did a guest on the last rakim thing which was pretty disappointing....18th letter still rules tho

upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

Rakim is A$AP Rocky's real name

Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

I just listened to all of these. So 2012 is a straight fite between the tediously insipid and the bludgeoningly obnoxious? If so I'm going with the latter.

A$AP ROCKY - I'm with Lex here, why this dude and not like one of 50 other middling American rappers knocking about? Or maybe even one of the good ones?

AZEALIA BANKS - Far and away the best thing here. Sometimes you only need one song, and it's more than some of these guys have.

DOT ROTTEN - I have a lot of time for his RIP Young Dot mixtape from a few years ago, and this track is a lot better than most of yr route-one pop-grime. There's probably an ace Mike Delinquent Project remix in there somewhere as well. And his verse is one of the best bits on the Cher Lloyd album.

DRY THE RIVER - Have seemingly been the next big hype band for years now. Die.

FLUX PAVILION - This is... not terrible as far as brostep goes? Quite enjoyed it actually.

FRANK OCEAN - The thing about watching the end of a party through smoke is that the end of the party is usually the best bit, it's when you sit about and talk shit for hours with a beer in one hand a cup of tea in the other, and anyone who thinks that watching the end of the party through smoke equals being a bit emo probably shouldn't have been invited to the party in the first place, and probably wasn't. None of this has much to do with Frank Ocean, who is boring.

FRIENDS - I quite liked this the first 942 times it was played on 6music, now I never want to hear it ever again. Also what with 'Friends' and 'Girls' are we in the age of the shit ungoogleable band name now?

JAMIE N COMMONS - I'm sure you're all as happy as I am that the post-Mumfords coalition of cunts world now has its own Paul Weller.

LIANNE LA HAVAS - The thing about Feist is she's actually good at writing songs. This is just... nothingy.

MICHAEL KIWANUKA - influenced by a free covermount CD on a magazine... of the Lighthouse Family?

NIKI & THE DOVE - I noticed that there's no Jobbing Aussie Band Who Sound Like MGMT this year so the Third Rate Synthpop Band Whose Singer Grew Up Listening To PJ Harvey, Bjork And Kate Bush will have to keep the hardy perennial flame alive.

REN HARVIEU - this sounded alright as far as this sort of retro coffee soul thing goes.

SKRILLEX - Good grief Skrillex is actually one of the better things here.

SPECTOR - The one the NME will half-heartedly put on the cover knowing full well no one care but you've got to hold on to something in these dark indie days and well any old shit will do by now.

STOOSHE - gorblimey blood sausage pip pip

Matt DC, Monday, 5 December 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

rakim DID show up in a juelz santana video once, so if he had endorsed a$ap rocky it would cement my 'rakim and surfboard dudes are of one mind' theory

Mr. Stevensome #dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

N&TD aren't third rate anything, take it back!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

i'd like to protest their overly familiar name format

i feel like the morbz of ilm always looking at threads thinking "yeah of course you'd like that you fucking STONERS"

hmmmmmm

є(٥_ ٥)э, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

wait is that in response to me making fun of the name of an act i haven't heard? or just an unrelated comment

Lamp is such a master of "i'm silently judging you...look! look! over here, can't you see me silently judging you!? aren't you wondering what i'm thinking!?"

FRANK OCEAN - The thing about watching the end of a party through smoke is that the end of the party is usually the best bit, it's when you sit about and talk shit for hours with a beer in one hand a cup of tea in the other, and anyone who thinks that watching the end of the party through smoke equals being a bit emo probably shouldn't have been invited to the party in the first place, and probably wasn't. None of this has much to do with Frank Ocean, who is boring.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

As we already knew, ILX <3 Skrillex

sean doily, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

oh ffs

Simon H., Monday, 12 December 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

lol good results

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

otm

malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Monday, 12 December 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

wow

dog latin, Monday, 12 December 2011 09:50 (twelve years ago) link

if only we had some kind of animated gif to celebrate the boy's victory

Ban (Julie Lagger), Monday, 12 December 2011 09:50 (twelve years ago) link

Haha.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 12 December 2011 10:12 (twelve years ago) link

i had no idea skrillex was an ilx in-joke noawadays (never could be bothered to open the clusterfuck thread)

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Monday, 12 December 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

I had no idea that Skrillex was anything *but* a massive in-joke?

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

20,000 ex-hardcore kids in day-glo facepaint can't be wrong...

dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Monday, 12 December 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

I only just realized its not skrillRex

Also in that gif what exactly is happening?

april wowak, Monday, 12 December 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

im just glad skrillex beat azealia banks.

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 12 December 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

without being a joke i legit think he's better than her

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 12 December 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link


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