and the platform to finally untangle this is "the snarky infographic"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:06 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
it is the one that most baldly lays out the presumptions of its creators
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
it can become a zing of you when you routinely throw the phrase around all the time like SPIN used a racial epithet
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:07 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
is it particularly different from when people used to call allen iverson a 'thug'
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
other than that obv some of the artists (not all) in that bubble would call themselves that
a piece of writing reflected the opinions of the person who wrote it, stop the presses
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:08 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
i said 'baldly lays out the presumptions' which is not at all the same as 'reflected the opinions of' learn to read
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
my problems w/ this isn't that its like some kind of conspiracy, i said this already
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
sorry, your posts are so free of the shared assumptions that your writing is so free from that it reads like esperanto to me
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
in other news, I heard Roscoe Dash still suxx can any1 confirm
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:05 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
"good fucking night" has me reconsidering my kneejerk dislike of both roscoe and kane beatz tbh
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
yes, you weirdo
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
are you really having trouble understanding this sentence, because it is in english:
"it is the one that most baldly lays out the presumptions of its creators"
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
is that on a tape? (last thing I heard of his was a few tracks on Dash Effect) xxpost
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
also by "esperanto," i meant "the fat purple crayon scrawlings of a drooling 8 year old"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:11 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
why are white journalists calling black entertainers 'thugs' different in this context than that one, particularly when it includes punchline comedic rappers like killa kyleon
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:11 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
i dont see the fat purple crayon. try to zing again/
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
why are white journalists calling black entertainers 'thugs' different in this context than that one, particularly when it includes punchline comedic rappers like killa kyleon― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:12 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:12 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
this conversation has finally turned a corner
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
if you can't tell the difference between the treatment of allen iverson and a rap critic calling some rappers "thugs" then i really dunno what to tell you
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
great argument
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
"if you cant see why you're wrong and i'm right, i won't be bothered to explain it"
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
Can't believe a white journalist called Dr. Dre a "gangster"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
that is weird, considering he wasnt one
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com/image_cache/124961229015036.jpegregional thugs
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/96qJ5.png
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:11 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
it's his new radio single (except it's "good good night" when they play it on the radio obv)
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw deej as someone who listens to mostly LOL CHILLWΔVE and like, ambient drone, the fact that the REGIONAL THUG bubble included a wider variety of rappers (both in style AND quality!) and is thus more insulting than other bubbles like DESPERATE BENEFACTORS and GUYS WHO THINK ITS 1993 is legit baffling to me
i mean: roping a bunch of disparate rappers under one bubble can come across as implying those distinctions are trivial, not worth listening for or caring abt &c &c &c but its hard to see the term REGIONAL THUG as an actual textual insult and also every other category does the same thing, in an effort to make a point abt diffusion/popularity? so it seems weirdly parochial to care so much abt this one bubble, i guess, or to make such strong claims abt its intent/effect
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
years ago on t0m breih4n's old blogspot page all the links on his blogroll were humorous or silly descriptions of the writers, including "d4vid dr4ke being just a baby, man" which i thought was really weird and confusing for a long time and i asked deej and apparently it was just t0m being amazed or impressed by how young he was. but every time deej loses his shit on ilx and cries about everyone being mean to him, the phrase "d4vid dr4ke being just a baby, man" automatically pops into my head.
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
I should have known by the way that you staredEyeing passes by like you're rich but life ain't fairBut you make my record skipMake my record skipMake my record skipMake my record skipI would have never talked to you if I had known you was a regional thugHey, regional thug (you're damn right)I would have never talked to you if I had known you was a regional thugHey, regional thug (you're damn right)
― furnace mane, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
well, i dont think it's the only problem w/ the chart if you were wondering, its just one that i brought up that these guys chose to harp on. i mean, when this first hit i criticized other stuff too.
the point abt diffusion & popularity would be a good one if it didnt seem like it was intent on making certain artists also seem considerably more significant than i think they are to most hip hop fans, like it doesn't just pull the magnifying glass wayyyy out on certain strains of hip-hop (and lump those strains together) but it also zooms way in to the pt where you're talking about non-entities like smoke dza as if he's even worth a data point like this, while other artists are left off of the chart entirely
i'm not sure what the 'such strong claims' i'm making about its intent/effect are; i criticized it the way i would any piece of music journalism that seemed particularly wrong headed to me
xp's to the face display name
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:25 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
you're such a dick dude!
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
lmfaooooo
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
like, who is 'crying' here? i'm annoyed at you jordan and whiney, i'm not feeling persecuted or something
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
i'm just being honest, that pops into my head on a weekly basis without me willing it at all
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nataliedee.com/053110/butt-hurt-for-everybody.jpg
natalie deej
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
you're actually being a crybaby about me calling you a crybaby fyi
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
im just being honest, i think you're a colossal dick on a weekly basis \oO/
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
'those underlying assumptions are a huge part of what is wrong w/ the critical apparatus about rap more broadly'
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
its just one that i brought up that these guys chose to harp on.
don't act like you haven't harped on REGIONAL THUG on the blog & on twitter multiple times since the chart dropped
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, i think they're indicative of the way the press follows certain micro trends but ignores other larger ones. i'm not sure that is such a strong claim XP
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:31 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
the difference is i'm ok with being a dick, being called a dick, admitting to it, and not dwelling on it
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
"regional dick" on the other hand...
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:33 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
what does that have to do w/ ilx? you're a part of all three of those convos but people here aren't
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:34 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
you can suck my dick region
rofl
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
I'm so glad that moving to the sandbox hasn't affected you guys at all
― dayo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:34 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark
ilx convos happen in a vacuum now?
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
i don't care what anyone says, i think the breih4n story is a gem
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
oh man is there a sandbox ZING thread xp to deej
gonna be super fucking glad to see gun sounds go
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 8:27 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
this was a good thread name. i dont think we've really missed so far on these although i am concerned abt the upcoming year
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
'gun sounds' was a quality pick esp if i remember the other nominations correctly
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
tbh in retrospect i supposed rolling regional thug isn't bad either, i guess it does reflect the splintered decentralized discourse or w/e
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link