your line here is that omg its just a dumb spin chart, that's what i'm saying you're wrong about -- everything you've ever written is just dumb music writing too, if you want to go by that logic. this serves to create a narrative about THE STATE OF RAP and if you don't see that then maybe you shouldnt write about music
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
once again, you've mistaken ppl joking about something w/ a desire to once again engage you on something that we've all already talked about at length
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:56 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
once again you act as if you have absolutely no responsibility for getting into arguments you are in fact a part of
"i'll joke about this as if deej is a moron who was totally wrong about this, then i'll expect him to have moved on and ignore me when i intentionally provoke him"
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
wait a minute al i otm'ed deej not you itt
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:57 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark
i'm not trying to absolve responsibility from telling you that you should chill out over the SPIN music chart, & don't act like me and "smh mang fusion" cracking a joke about "regional thug" was an attempt to have a discussion about the SPIN chart
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
deej and the spin chart is like a 10 year old waiting for someone to say "pokemon"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
but ... thats a quote from the spin chart.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
oh my lord man -- me saying that "rolling regional thug 2012" should be the name of the next thread title (and it should!) was not provoking you, jeez -- you seem pretty cool with "busting balls" until it is your balls that are being busted
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know how squirtle can beat charizard
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
deej for better or worse "regional thug" is gonna be a punchline/easy zing for the forseeable future. you just gotta roll with these things sometimes
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, and then you throw jigglypuff in the mix? that was a crazy episode, right?
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
you guys argue with me about the content and beneath-the-surface assumptions going into the chart, and then accuse me of just being mad about some dumb old chart no one read when i disagree with them. those underlying assumptions are a huge part of what is wrong w/ the critical apparatus about rap more broadly.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
I for one am glad we found another mostly meaningless phrase to join "hipster" on the list to things that set deej off like a roman candle
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
regional thug is something i brought attention to! thats not a zing of me!
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
beneath-the-surface assumptions
it really was wildly beneath the surface how they chose to write SPIN on the cover that month instead of MURDER DOG
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
'candy paint and texas plates' was a better mixtape than 95% of the organized output of (admittedly) more relevant rappers on that retarded chart
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:56 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
musicians from 11 that i enjoyed more than killa kyleon: soulja boy, e-40, max b, freddie gibbs, 2 chainz, meek mill, travis porter, kendrick lamar, drake, waka flocka flame -- not that i dislike killa kyleon, but
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
all of those guys are on the left side of the chart, obv
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:03 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
when has 'hipster' ever been a word that 'sets me off like a roman candle' -- arent you talking about yourself?
i didn't even throw boosie on there, breh
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
anyway, stevenson dude otm
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
no, stevenson dude off tm
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
sorry kev i was thinking of this exchange and misremembered j0rdan as you
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
in other news, I heard Roscoe Dash still suxx can any1 confirm
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:04 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
every article & piece has 'beneath the surface' assumptions dumbass this isnt a conspiracy theory thing, i'm talking about the shared assumptions that go into every single piece of writing by a magazine ever
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
i think this could be read as you taking the SPIN rap chart more seriously than anyone else here, so at some point ppl just stop arguing about it
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
the shared assumptions that go into every single piece of writing by a magazine ever
and the platform to finally untangle this is "the snarky infographic"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:04 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
it can become a zing of you when you routinely throw the phrase around all the time like SPIN used a racial epithet
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
yeah man i'm happy to play your hypeman but i aint wearing no chains xp al
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:06 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
it is the one that most baldly lays out the presumptions of its creators
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:07 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
is it particularly different from when people used to call allen iverson a 'thug'
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
other than that obv some of the artists (not all) in that bubble would call themselves that
a piece of writing reflected the opinions of the person who wrote it, stop the presses
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:08 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
i said 'baldly lays out the presumptions' which is not at all the same as 'reflected the opinions of' learn to read
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
my problems w/ this isn't that its like some kind of conspiracy, i said this already
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
sorry, your posts are so free of the shared assumptions that your writing is so free from that it reads like esperanto to me
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:05 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
"good fucking night" has me reconsidering my kneejerk dislike of both roscoe and kane beatz tbh
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
yes, you weirdo
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
are you really having trouble understanding this sentence, because it is in english:
"it is the one that most baldly lays out the presumptions of its creators"
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
is that on a tape? (last thing I heard of his was a few tracks on Dash Effect) xxpost
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
also by "esperanto," i meant "the fat purple crayon scrawlings of a drooling 8 year old"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:11 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
why are white journalists calling black entertainers 'thugs' different in this context than that one, particularly when it includes punchline comedic rappers like killa kyleon
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:11 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
i dont see the fat purple crayon. try to zing again/
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
why are white journalists calling black entertainers 'thugs' different in this context than that one, particularly when it includes punchline comedic rappers like killa kyleon― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:12 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:12 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
this conversation has finally turned a corner
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
if you can't tell the difference between the treatment of allen iverson and a rap critic calling some rappers "thugs" then i really dunno what to tell you
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
great argument
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
"if you cant see why you're wrong and i'm right, i won't be bothered to explain it"
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
Can't believe a white journalist called Dr. Dre a "gangster"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
that is weird, considering he wasnt one
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com/image_cache/124961229015036.jpegregional thugs
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/96qJ5.png
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link