are you really struggling with it? theres so much more variety in that little bubble than there is between any of the artists in virtually any other category
i think it get what your getting at here but i mean... idk from the outside you look deranged
lol xp - i really liked that kendrick lamar mixtape idk if thats superlame or not
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:49 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Permalink
and this has nothing to do w/ jordan's constantly positioning himself as the 'reasonable center' of ilx disagreeing w/ me
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
the lamar mixtape is dope.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
i dont understand what's 'deranged' !! please explain it.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
question asked, question answered
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
like, i don't know what else to tell you; the framework of the chart serves certain artists a lot more than it does others.
if moving on with your life after SPIN magazine put out a rap music infographic, is considered being the reasonable center, then i guess i am that, yes
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:51 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
shouldnt you be trying the "LOL DEEJ LIKES [ANY ARTIST DEEJ HAS EVER MENTIONED]" punchline for the 8043rd time?
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:52 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
you need to make up your mind if you actually disagree w/ what i've said about the chart, or if you've actually moved on, because you talking about it now suggests you're just trying to one up me & arent actually engaged w/ the discussion at hand
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
oh i forgot about ilx's drake fanbase
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
idk man... holding up killa kyleon as some pinnacle of 2011 rap is... very weird, but do you
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not even the one who brought this stupid thing up again -- yall were -- if you want to keep bringing it up like its assumed that we all agree about the chart, then be prepared to actually engage my opinion about it
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
i can't believe i get to explain to lex AND deej in the same weekend that you don't get to decide when other people think you're funny
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
??? who said i was trying to be funny? what are you talking abt?
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:41 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
i said you were being unintentionally hilarious, kev said i was right and you said i was wrong so very wrong. that's not your call to make.
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
man, "deej vs the rest of ILX" is so April of 2011...
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
once again, you've mistaken ppl joking about something w/ a desire to once again engage you on something that we've all already talked about at length
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
no this is deej vs. the rest of the sandbox, whole new deal
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
killa kyleon put out better music this year than anyone on the left side of that chart fwiw
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:40 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark
uh
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:42 PM (5 minutes ago)
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:48 PM (3 minutes ago)
on the real tho jsut for the record who on that chart is getting the goon seal of approval, looking at it right now - yela? kanye? big sean? wale? asap rocky?
ok i skipped over meek
xp i'm not holding him up as anything i'm saying 'candy paint and texas plates' was a better mixtape than 95% of the organized output of (admittedly) more relevant rappers on that retarded chart
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
your line here is that omg its just a dumb spin chart, that's what i'm saying you're wrong about -- everything you've ever written is just dumb music writing too, if you want to go by that logic. this serves to create a narrative about THE STATE OF RAP and if you don't see that then maybe you shouldnt write about music
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:56 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
once again you act as if you have absolutely no responsibility for getting into arguments you are in fact a part of
"i'll joke about this as if deej is a moron who was totally wrong about this, then i'll expect him to have moved on and ignore me when i intentionally provoke him"
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
wait a minute al i otm'ed deej not you itt
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:57 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark
i'm not trying to absolve responsibility from telling you that you should chill out over the SPIN music chart, & don't act like me and "smh mang fusion" cracking a joke about "regional thug" was an attempt to have a discussion about the SPIN chart
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
deej and the spin chart is like a 10 year old waiting for someone to say "pokemon"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
but ... thats a quote from the spin chart.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
oh my lord man -- me saying that "rolling regional thug 2012" should be the name of the next thread title (and it should!) was not provoking you, jeez -- you seem pretty cool with "busting balls" until it is your balls that are being busted
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know how squirtle can beat charizard
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
deej for better or worse "regional thug" is gonna be a punchline/easy zing for the forseeable future. you just gotta roll with these things sometimes
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, and then you throw jigglypuff in the mix? that was a crazy episode, right?
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
you guys argue with me about the content and beneath-the-surface assumptions going into the chart, and then accuse me of just being mad about some dumb old chart no one read when i disagree with them. those underlying assumptions are a huge part of what is wrong w/ the critical apparatus about rap more broadly.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
I for one am glad we found another mostly meaningless phrase to join "hipster" on the list to things that set deej off like a roman candle
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
regional thug is something i brought attention to! thats not a zing of me!
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
beneath-the-surface assumptions
it really was wildly beneath the surface how they chose to write SPIN on the cover that month instead of MURDER DOG
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
'candy paint and texas plates' was a better mixtape than 95% of the organized output of (admittedly) more relevant rappers on that retarded chart
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:56 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
musicians from 11 that i enjoyed more than killa kyleon: soulja boy, e-40, max b, freddie gibbs, 2 chainz, meek mill, travis porter, kendrick lamar, drake, waka flocka flame -- not that i dislike killa kyleon, but
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
all of those guys are on the left side of the chart, obv
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:03 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
when has 'hipster' ever been a word that 'sets me off like a roman candle' -- arent you talking about yourself?
i didn't even throw boosie on there, breh
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
anyway, stevenson dude otm
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
no, stevenson dude off tm
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
sorry kev i was thinking of this exchange and misremembered j0rdan as you
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
in other news, I heard Roscoe Dash still suxx can any1 confirm
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:04 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
every article & piece has 'beneath the surface' assumptions dumbass this isnt a conspiracy theory thing, i'm talking about the shared assumptions that go into every single piece of writing by a magazine ever
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
i think this could be read as you taking the SPIN rap chart more seriously than anyone else here, so at some point ppl just stop arguing about it
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
the shared assumptions that go into every single piece of writing by a magazine ever
and the platform to finally untangle this is "the snarky infographic"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:04 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
it can become a zing of you when you routinely throw the phrase around all the time like SPIN used a racial epithet
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
yeah man i'm happy to play your hypeman but i aint wearing no chains xp al
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:06 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
it is the one that most baldly lays out the presumptions of its creators
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:07 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
is it particularly different from when people used to call allen iverson a 'thug'
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
other than that obv some of the artists (not all) in that bubble would call themselves that
a piece of writing reflected the opinions of the person who wrote it, stop the presses
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:08 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
i said 'baldly lays out the presumptions' which is not at all the same as 'reflected the opinions of' learn to read
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
my problems w/ this isn't that its like some kind of conspiracy, i said this already
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
sorry, your posts are so free of the shared assumptions that your writing is so free from that it reads like esperanto to me
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link