+ there are actual insults on that chart, i don't think "regional thugs and coke rappers" is one of them
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
well, you're wrong, it is one
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
we've gone over this before but the variety of artists in there is like 10x that of other categories, to me its not journalistic or historically responsible, i guess those arent concerns for you which is fine but i don't see why its wrong for me to say this or for you to think i'm overreacting or w/e
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it's not WRONG for you to say it, but it does make you look very petty
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1PPlJfFzjs
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
deej looks nothing like tom petty
― dayo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
leave the dad jokes to the god, dayo
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
I'm the god of dad jokes?
― dayo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
i kind of agree with this. more than anything using 'thug' perjoratively in this context attempts to dismiss gangster rap as a whole as dated or irrelevant; in a sense maybe it is, given what's popular on the charts and judging by what's getting the high-profile critical love
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 3:38 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
exactly
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
over half of the artists get "dismissed" on that chart -- it's mildly snarky -- it's really not a big deal
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
haha why?
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
for the reasons i've posted already
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
i guess i was looking for s.thing coherent but fair enough
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
are you really struggling with it? theres so much more variety in that little bubble than there is between any of the artists in virtually any other category
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
variety & range in terms of quality, as well
http://bensix.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/helen-lovejoy1.jpg
Will someone PLEASE thing of Killa Kyleon
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
*think
i can't believe i get to explain to lex AND deej in the same weekend that you don't get to decide when other people think you're funny
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
killa kyleon put out better music this year than anyone on the left side of that chart fwiw
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
im angry about the lack of respect shown by the chart
can't believe SPIN didn't pay proper respect to people named "Tity Boi" and "Nacho Picasso"
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
??? who said i was trying to be funny? what are you talking abt?
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:40 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark
uh
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
as glad as i am that this got turned into another referendum on deej thinking that chart was self-serving ahistorical b.s. i started this thread about a particular rap album & if it's not going to be about that, or about ya'lls favorite records this year, then i'm just going to ask a mod to lock it bcuz this is really boring.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://thypolarlife.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/kids-police-costume.jpg
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:42 PM (5 minutes ago)
oh i forgot about ilx's drake fanbase
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
i think it get what your getting at here but i mean... idk from the outside you look deranged
lol xp - i really liked that kendrick lamar mixtape idk if thats superlame or not
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:49 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Permalink
and this has nothing to do w/ jordan's constantly positioning himself as the 'reasonable center' of ilx disagreeing w/ me
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
the lamar mixtape is dope.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
i dont understand what's 'deranged' !! please explain it.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
question asked, question answered
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
like, i don't know what else to tell you; the framework of the chart serves certain artists a lot more than it does others.
if moving on with your life after SPIN magazine put out a rap music infographic, is considered being the reasonable center, then i guess i am that, yes
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:51 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
shouldnt you be trying the "LOL DEEJ LIKES [ANY ARTIST DEEJ HAS EVER MENTIONED]" punchline for the 8043rd time?
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:52 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
you need to make up your mind if you actually disagree w/ what i've said about the chart, or if you've actually moved on, because you talking about it now suggests you're just trying to one up me & arent actually engaged w/ the discussion at hand
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
idk man... holding up killa kyleon as some pinnacle of 2011 rap is... very weird, but do you
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not even the one who brought this stupid thing up again -- yall were -- if you want to keep bringing it up like its assumed that we all agree about the chart, then be prepared to actually engage my opinion about it
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:41 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
i said you were being unintentionally hilarious, kev said i was right and you said i was wrong so very wrong. that's not your call to make.
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
man, "deej vs the rest of ILX" is so April of 2011...
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
once again, you've mistaken ppl joking about something w/ a desire to once again engage you on something that we've all already talked about at length
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
no this is deej vs. the rest of the sandbox, whole new deal
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:48 PM (3 minutes ago)
on the real tho jsut for the record who on that chart is getting the goon seal of approval, looking at it right now - yela? kanye? big sean? wale? asap rocky?
ok i skipped over meek
xp i'm not holding him up as anything i'm saying 'candy paint and texas plates' was a better mixtape than 95% of the organized output of (admittedly) more relevant rappers on that retarded chart
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
your line here is that omg its just a dumb spin chart, that's what i'm saying you're wrong about -- everything you've ever written is just dumb music writing too, if you want to go by that logic. this serves to create a narrative about THE STATE OF RAP and if you don't see that then maybe you shouldnt write about music
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:56 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
once again you act as if you have absolutely no responsibility for getting into arguments you are in fact a part of
"i'll joke about this as if deej is a moron who was totally wrong about this, then i'll expect him to have moved on and ignore me when i intentionally provoke him"
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
wait a minute al i otm'ed deej not you itt
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:57 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark
i'm not trying to absolve responsibility from telling you that you should chill out over the SPIN music chart, & don't act like me and "smh mang fusion" cracking a joke about "regional thug" was an attempt to have a discussion about the SPIN chart
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
deej and the spin chart is like a 10 year old waiting for someone to say "pokemon"
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
but ... thats a quote from the spin chart.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
oh my lord man -- me saying that "rolling regional thug 2012" should be the name of the next thread title (and it should!) was not provoking you, jeez -- you seem pretty cool with "busting balls" until it is your balls that are being busted
― v-shasty, Sunday, 4 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link